Privacy Issues (Ladies, please read)

[Rigel7]

Privacy is quite important to just about everyone. It should be even more important for SP's. My thoughts are based on a small incident a while back. Without even trying, I came across an SP's personal information. I actually agonized over it whether to tell her or not. Finally I decided it's better to tell her for her to be able to avoid someone else getting hold of the same or similar information. I had quite a distraught lady after I explained the chain of events that led me to the info. Please do not assume the identity of the lady, you may guess wrong.

I have to follow strict code of ethics at work with regards to confidentiality. To avoid any conflict I have extended it to my personal life as well, so there is no confusion as to what's right and wrong.

Here are my thoughts on what not to do. There may be more, and if you think of any please add it to this thread. This is serious enough....may I request refraining from inane humour?

1. Never call a client from your personal phone. You would probably block your number when doing so. You have no idea how easy it is to obtain a blocked number. (No guys, sorry I am not giving lessons). If at all possible have your business phone referred to a numbered company. I am not in any kind of business for myself, so I don't know what some of the ramifications might be. May be someone can enlighten us.

2. Never include pics on your escortsite that have been seen by family or friends. Even if you are cropping the picture to include the upper torso in a bikini top. If your friends and family have seen the pics, then they can identify part of the picture as well, just in case they happen to hit your website.

3. That goes for your personal clothing too. If you friends and family have seen the itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot designer bikini, then pics of you in it do not belong on any escortsite.

4. Facebook. One of "the worst" things to come along on the internet is Facebook. Of course, that is my personal opinion. This is quite serious. If you are a former or a current SP, you do not belong on Facebook. Period. I have loggend on to Facebook may be four times since I registered a little more than a year ago. No one has asked me to be their friend, since no one may be looking for me. I have not asked anyone to be my friend since I dread Facebook. If you trust me on this, please delete your Facebook account in the next little while. This should apply to both, independent SP's and those working through intermediaries. Do not deactivate your account, delete it.

Here are instructions on How to delete your Facebook Profile

Although I am ignorant with how Facebook works, and I have never done it (well, once with a relative's profile to show it can be done), but I know how to extract full profiles with pictures (albums) from a Facebook account with just one click. I am hoping that should scare you enough to take action. The reason I don't do it is that I am really not interested in seeing other peoples vacations or family gatherings etc. I get enough of it when I visit people.

FredZ has quite a few interesting posts on various topics scattered around Terb. It may be worth finding some of them.

Questions??? Please PM me. Thoughts??? Please post them here.

Thanks.

 

[dsc]

Remember most SPs around here, also live here. This means they have family and friends, have to go and shop, just like everyone else. I am alarmed when I hear guys will go up to them and say "Hi XXX" even if they are with their kids.
This is not acceptable and shows a lack of class. It goes both ways, too.

 

[CUTTERBUCK]

Privacy issues

Rigel7. Interesting post indeed. You put forward some good information, but this sentence intrigues me. “Without even trying, I came across an SP's personal information”. Surely you must have gone to the effort of researching her personal information for a reason? Or is that how you get your jollies?
Just a thought.

 

[Rigel7]

Rigel7. Interesting post indeed. You put forward some good information, but this sentence intrigues me. “Without even trying, I came across an SP's personal information”. Surely you must have gone to the effort of researching her personal information for a reason? Or is that how you get your jollies?
Just a thought.

The SP knows exactly what happened. And no, I don't get my jollies that way. It was an accident really. And, of course, you have no reason to believe me. I am really sorry I can't give details of what happened, but as I said I explained every step to the SP. I didn't need to hide anything from her. I was trying to help her avoid the same situation in future.

If I got my jollies that way, why would I go out of my way to tell the SP? She had no idea it had happened.

 

[bOOTyMaN]

No fear here hun. I am an open book lol...as for Rigel...you happened to stumble on personal info? lol..hands him a shovel

 

[bigmike]

Columbo...

Here are my thougths SP's no matter how personal you get never tell anyone your real last name and never call from your home or cell number welcome to caller ID and then no one umm can stumble accross you by accident on facebook or from a google search you would think some effort would have to be made to be able to stumble upon an SP's personal info but I guess not from what Rigel is saying he turned his computer on and its just found it on its own scary shit...I have a very good feeling who this SP was she was a Gem funny you dont see her on this board anymore mmm wonder why..maybe to many people or maybe one person even just was going out of there way not to find information...about her...who knows ...makes you go...mmmmmmm

Privacy is quite important to just about everyone. It should be even more important for SP's. My thoughts are based on a small incident a while back. Without even trying, I came across an SP's personal information. I actually agonized over it whether to tell her or not. Finally I decided it's better to tell her for her to be able to avoid someone else getting hold of the same or similar information. I had quite a distraught lady after I explained the chain of events that led me to the info. Please do not assume the identity of the lady, you may guess wrong.

I have to follow strict code of ethics at work with regards to confidentiality. To avoid any conflict I have extended it to my personal life as well, so there is no confusion as to what's right and wrong.

Here are my thoughts on what not to do. There may be more, and if you think of any please add it to this thread. This is serious enough....may I request refraining from inane humour?

1. Never call a client from your personal phone. You would probably block your number when doing so. You have no idea how easy it is to obtain a blocked number. (No guys, sorry I am not giving lessons). If at all possible have your business phone referred to a numbered company. I am not in any kind of business for myself, so I don't know what some of the ramifications might be. May be someone can enlighten us.

2. Never include pics on your escortsite that have been seen by family or friends. Even if you are cropping the picture to include the upper torso in a bikini top. If your friends and family have seen the pics, then they can identify part of the picture as well, just in case they happen to hit your website.

3. That goes for your personal clothing too. If you friends and family have seen the itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot designer bikini, then pics of you in it do not belong on any escortsite.

4. Facebook. One of "the worst" things to come along on the internet is Facebook. Of course, that is my personal opinion. This is quite serious. If you are a former or a current SP, you do not belong on Facebook. Period. I have loggend on to Facebook may be four times since I registered a little more than a year ago. No one has asked me to be their friend, since no one may be looking for me. I have not asked anyone to be my friend since I dread Facebook. If you trust me on this, please delete your Facebook account in the next little while. This should apply to both, independent SP's and those working through intermediaries. Do not deactivate your account, delete it.

Here are instructions on How to delete your Facebook Profile

Although I am ignorant with how Facebook works, and I have never done it (well, once with a relative's profile to show it can be done), but I know how to extract full profiles with pictures (albums) from a Facebook account with just one click. I am hoping that should scare you enough to take action. The reason I don't do it is that I am really not interested in seeing other peoples vacations or family gatherings etc. I get enough of it when I visit people.

FredZ has quite a few interesting posts on various topics scattered around Terb. It may be worth finding some of them.

Questions??? Please PM me. Thoughts??? Please post them here.

Thanks.

 

[Rigel7]

but I guess not from Rigel is saying he turned his computer on and its just found it on its own scary shit...

I am not quite sure why I need to defend myself. Basically, what I did was to do a reverse lookup on a phone number that I didn't recognize on my bill. And not knowing who that was, I googled the name.

Now, would I have not been better off not posting anything? No one would have known accept for the SP. It happened. I have apologized profusely to the SP. There is very little else I can do.

Think what you will of me; but I was trying to help other SP's not fall into similar situations. If that's a crime, then for certain, I am guilty.

 

[Ashley Dupree]

I am not quite sure why I need to defend myself. Basically, what I did was to do a reverse lookup on a phone number that I didn't recognize on my bill. And not knowing who that was, I googled the name.

Now, would I have not been better off not posting anything? No one would have known accept for the SP. It happened. I have apologized profusely to the SP. There is very little else I can do.

Think what you will of me; but I was trying to help other SP's not fall into similar situations. If that's a crime, then for certain, I am guilty.

Some more tip for SP to protect there privacy:

Cell Phone... Most people are on cell phone plan. When I use to escort I make sure I had disposbable cell phone. Why? it never cross my mind before but I had client work as saleperson for cell phone company. What not stop him from typing in number and all personal info show up? After this I got disposable one. I keep one with cell phone plan for own personal use. Or if i have to use it for client i would block the number.

Picture...Never take picture at your home or apartment where other people can recognize the background.

Incall... Never invite client to your home where you live. They can find out all sort of info. Use a seperate place for doing incall.

E-mail... Keep your escorting email just for escorting. Dont use this email to sign up for other site that are not relate to escorting. It interesting to find out what site people belong to when you google their email. I use to do that when I see client. A few were on some really fuck up site like gang rape.

On Incall... dont keep laptop open for them to see your username or any other info. Hide all belonging that have personal info when doing incall.

Robot.txt... do this for picture on your website especially if you show your face. get your web person to do this for you. All info on internet is archive and you can go back and find old website. if your picture have robot.txt, there is less chance these picture will show up in archive in future if someone look for them.

Incall buzzer.. use fake name for this. i use to do this and tell management of condo that i want name in my mother maiden name cause ex boyfriend was bother me. they didnt have problem with this at all. then i give fake name for buzzer which they think is my mother maiden name and client would think it is my real name.

Transportation... never let them see what car you drive or licence plate. More info they can get. park car far away from house if you have to go to one or take cab. dont let them walk you to car at night.

Clothing.. i keep all clothes separate. one i use for escort. other i use for personal life. especially clothes from picture on website.

tattoo...get them airbrush out of picture for your website.

And stay the fuck away from facebook.

 

[george12111211]

Privacy is quite important to just about everyone. It should be even more important for SP's. My thoughts are based on a small incident a while back. Without even trying, I came across an SP's personal information. I actually agonized over it whether to tell her or not. Finally I decided it's better to tell her for her to be able to avoid someone else getting hold of the same or similar information. I had quite a distraught lady after I explained the chain of events that led me to the info. Please do not assume the identity of the lady, you may guess wrong.

I have to follow strict code of ethics at work with regards to confidentiality. To avoid any conflict I have extended it to my personal life as well, so there is no confusion as to what's right and wrong.

Here are my thoughts on what not to do. There may be more, and if you think of any please add it to this thread. This is serious enough....may I request refraining from inane humour?

1. Never call a client from your personal phone. You would probably block your number when doing so. You have no idea how easy it is to obtain a blocked number. (No guys, sorry I am not giving lessons). If at all possible have your business phone referred to a numbered company. I am not in any kind of business for myself, so I don't know what some of the ramifications might be. May be someone can enlighten us.

2. Never include pics on your escortsite that have been seen by family or friends. Even if you are cropping the picture to include the upper torso in a bikini top. If your friends and family have seen the pics, then they can identify part of the picture as well, just in case they happen to hit your website.

3. That goes for your personal clothing too. If you friends and family have seen the itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot designer bikini, then pics of you in it do not belong on any escortsite.

4. Facebook. One of "the worst" things to come along on the internet is Facebook. Of course, that is my personal opinion. This is quite serious. If you are a former or a current SP, you do not belong on Facebook. Period. I have loggend on to Facebook may be four times since I registered a little more than a year ago. No one has asked me to be their friend, since no one may be looking for me. I have not asked anyone to be my friend since I dread Facebook. If you trust me on this, please delete your Facebook account in the next little while. This should apply to both, independent SP's and those working through intermediaries. Do not deactivate your account, delete it.

Here are instructions on How to delete your Facebook Profile

Although I am ignorant with how Facebook works, and I have never done it (well, once with a relative's profile to show it can be done), but I know how to extract full profiles with pictures (albums) from a Facebook account with just one click. I am hoping that should scare you enough to take action. The reason I don't do it is that I am really not interested in seeing other peoples vacations or family gatherings etc. I get enough of it when I visit people.

FredZ has quite a few interesting posts on various topics scattered around Terb. It may be worth finding some of them.

Questions??? Please PM me. Thoughts??? Please post them here.

Thanks.

Rigel, glad you are thinking of others by giving the advise you did... your only problem is you did not have to prove anything and defended yourself...

you are falling in to the trap of giving up more information than you need to...

 

[tropico]

I have made videos with a certain Sp - for both of our use.... we have kept them personal and private - the way it should be.
I comes down to one thing -
respect!
I would never betray the trust I have with the girls I see....
I have seen girls at the grocery or the mall...and exchanged a smile and that is all.
At the end of the day - don't be an idiot.
Privacy is paramount.
I want privacy as much as an SP does....

Let's be gentleman....

Tony

 

[calloway]

I would never betray the trust I have with the girls I see

You may not... but unfortunately there are a lot of assholes out there.

 

[pencilneckgeek2]

Rigel7. Interesting post indeed. You put forward some good information, but this sentence intrigues me. “Without even trying, I came across an SP's personal information”. Surely you must have gone to the effort of researching her personal information for a reason? Or is that how you get your jollies?
Just a thought.

I also came across personal information of an SP without even trying, on a first visit, no less.

She had a "real job" in addition to her SP'ing, and she escorted in the evening. I guess she had come from her other job to her incall location, and when she was changing, and freshening up to see me, she took her I.D. tag off and set it on her chest of drawers in the bedroom. When I was putting my clothes back on at the end of our session, I picked up my watch and glasses that I had set down earlier, and her name tag was right there. Photo I.D., first and last name, name of company, and position. I brought it to her attention, so she might be more careful in future, so someone else might not have that opportunity.

I have seen this lady many times since, and we have never discussed it. I have never called her by her real name, and never gone to her work, that would just be ignorant, and creepy.

Her real life is just that, hers. I have very much enjoyed the company of her SP persona, and would not think to intrude on her personal life.

There was no ''jollies getting'', or effort involved, just someone forgetting to put their I.D. tag in a drawer.
I expect discretion from the ladies that I see, and I offer the same to them.

 

[STASH]

I also came across personal information of an SP without even trying, on a first visit, no less.

She had a "real job" in addition to her SP'ing, and she escorted in the evening. I guess she had come from her other job to her incall location, and when she was changing, and freshening up to see me, she took her I.D. tag off and set it on her chest of drawers in the bedroom. When I was putting my clothes back on at the end of our session, I picked up my watch and glasses that I had set down earlier, and her name tag was right there. Photo I.D., first and last name, name of company, and position. I brought it to her attention, so she might be more careful in future, so someone else might not have that opportunity.

I have seen this lady many times since, and we have never discussed it. I have never called her by her real name, and never gone to her work, that would just be ignorant, and creepy.

Her real life is just that, hers. I have very much enjoyed the company of her SP persona, and would not think to intrude on her personal life.

There was no ''jollies getting'', or effort involved, just someone forgetting to put their I.D. tag in a drawer.
I expect discretion from the ladies that I see, and I offer the same to them.

Yes the same thing happened to me. I agree......see it and forget it. Althought she did insist on using her real name after that.
Good post above

 

[Twinklegirl]

maybe it's just me, but isn't this a bit over the top? I am from Cambridge, and have opened the door to find ex coworkers, people I went to highschool with etc. How can I possibly keep my real identity under wraps when they know my name right from the start? They also know who I married, how many kids I have etc. Sure, not all my clients have been like that, but I have nothing to hide, and haven't had anyone chase me down with a meat hook yet.

My clients appreciate my honesty, humour and ability to make them feel comfortable. Part of that is not being fake. I am a real person, and I let them see that.

Let the bashing begin.

 

[jessica_dark]

Oh twinklegirl, you are awesome!
I kinda feel the same way. I highly doubt anyone would want to stalk me since I'm giving them directions to my front door to book. I've only lived in Waterloo for 3.5 years, so not many people know me as a past friend. My current friends are the girls I work with and hence no need to hide anything. Clients know well enough to not show up unannounced and if they did well....I haven't had it happen yet. I never use my home phone unless it's to call family or friends. I have no kids and no ex-boyfriends that still bug me. I will not air-brush my tattoos out from my site pics because that's an added measure to verify it's me in my pics (yes some guys still ask).

I think all in all I have the least to worry about, but I would hope the other girls are safe to protect themselves and their family (kids, husbands, girlfriends, etc). This thread has gone on way too long.

 

[Mrbig1949]

You would be shocked at what comes up if you Google somebody's phone number. Some girls carelessly do other biz on work phone or private phone they give to good customers. Many people are unaware of this shockingly.

 

[jessica_dark]

same goes for client's numbers....

 

[Sex Goddess Jamie]

Thanks for a great posting, Rigel. I really appreciate your tips. They may seem like common sense to most folks, but when you are just learning to have a separate identity from your "real life" one, old habits can die hard, and it's hard to think of everything.

I don't understand why any SP would give a negative comment in this thread (sorry Jess and Twinkle; you both know me and know I'm not putting you down... I am disagreeing with you, but I respect you both!). You may decide that Rigel's advice doesn't apply to you, and I respect that and I'm glad you consider yourself safe. But please, don't give someone a hard time for giving good and valuable advice.

 

[pokerbrent]

I know what you meean about facebook. Did a search once using my contact list on msn. I found 3-5 sps personal info. I have also had the opposite done to me.

 

[smylee52]

Thanks for a great posting, Rigel. I really appreciate your tips. They may seem like common sense to most folks, but when you are just learning to have a separate identity from your "real life" one, old habits can die hard, and it's hard to think of everything.

I don't understand why any SP would give a negative comment in this thread (sorry Jess and Twinkle; you both know me and know I'm not putting you down... I am disagreeing with you, but I respect you both!). You may decide that Rigel's advice doesn't apply to you, and I respect that and I'm glad you consider yourself safe. But please, don't give someone a hard time for giving good and valuable advice.

Nice reminder that sometimes people should just listen , say nothing or say thank you and move on . Rigel was just being helpful and reminding people who might be getting a little complacent that they should pay closer attention to what they are putting out on the internet.

You obviously get the discretion part of this business .