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JeanGary Diablo

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Anyways, I think most of the under 50 crowd would rather the monarchy be abolished as well. Most of the UK didn't care about Kate and William getting married either.
Even if that's the case, there's virtually 0% chance of Canada abolishing the monarchy.

That would take a major, big-time constitutional amendment, and the Golden Rule of the Canadian Constitution since Meech Lake in 1987 has been "Thou Shalt Not Fuck With the Constitution".
 

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Even if that's the case, there's virtually 0% chance of Canada abolishing the monarchy.

That would take a major, big-time constitutional amendment, and the Golden Rule of the Canadian Constitution since Meech Lake in 1987 has been "Thou Shalt Not Fuck With the Constitution".
It is regrettable and embarrassing. It is an admission that out of 37 million Canadians, we cannot find somebody worthy of acting as Head of State.

Forcrissakes, If Canadians insists on a Monarchy, why not find some out of work prince and make him King of Canada. That is what Greece, England and many other countries did through the ages.

The concept of the Queen of England being Head of State of Canada is deeply insulting to many Canadians.
 

JeanGary Diablo

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It is regrettable and embarrassing. It is an admission that out of 37 million Canadians, we cannot find somebody worthy of acting as Head of State.

Forcrissakes, If Canadians insists on a Monarchy, why not find some out of work prince and make him King of Canada. That is what Greece, England and many other countries did through the ages.

The concept of the Queen of England being Head of State of Canada is deeply insulting to many Canadians.
First off, "England" has not had a Queen since 1707. Secondly, the Queen of Canada is Canada's head of state. Not to get nitpicky, but it irritates me as a Canadian when my fellow countrymen don't understand this one.

Thirdly, let's say we abolish the Monarchy and, as a consequence, our Westminster system of government.

NOW WHAT???????

What do we replace it with it? What type of government? Seriously, a huge fight of epic proportions is going to break out over what type of government we should have.

A republic? LOL, No thanks -- we've seen the mess that exists in the "republic" that sits below us.

Not to mention the trickle-down effect from abolishing the Monarchy and installing a new form of government would be astronomically expensive and gain Canadians absolutely nothing that we do not already have.

Our system is not perfect, but it works better than most, and there's no need to change it. simply because some people are ignorant of how it operates.
 

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We substitute the Governor-General for the Queen and just keep going.

We abolished the peerage in the 1930's. It didn't change much. Just pissed off prize rich dickwad Conrad Black.
 

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It is regrettable and embarrassing. It is an admission that out of 37 million Canadians, we cannot find somebody worthy of acting as Head of State.

Forcrissakes, If Canadians insists on a Monarchy, why not find some out of work prince and make him King of Canada. That is what Greece, England and many other countries did through the ages.

The concept of the Queen of England being Head of State of Canada is deeply insulting to many Canadians.
I vote for King Trudeau... in Power for ever and all his decedents
 

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The Monarchy, at least in Canada, is most likely to be supported by people who are centre of the road, politically speaking, as well as those who have deeply rooted British heritage.

In my experience, the people who are most likely to be staunchly anti-Monarchy are those on both the extreme left and the extreme right. Libertarians are usually pretty far right with many of their views, but they are also most often anti-Monarchy.

That said, Farley Mowat was pretty far left in his political views but he was also a Monarchist.
Re. Farley Mowat - it was the generational thing. I've talked to lots of Canadian veterans of the Second World War and when you got a few beers in them(back then many were still alive and capable of drinking), the answer was almost universal: they were fighting for George as in King George VI. Supporting the Crown and defending the Dominion was a very big reason most of the Canadian boys and men signed up to go over and fight in Europe.
 

JeanGary Diablo

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We substitute the Governor-General for the Queen and just keep going.

We abolished the peerage in the 1930's. It didn't change much. Just pissed off prize rich dickwad Conrad Black.
Even substituting the GG for the Queen would require a major constitutional amendment, which is virtually impossible to achieve.

Your point about Conrad Black is right on the money, though. ;)
 

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It is regrettable and embarrassing. It is an admission that out of 37 million Canadians, we cannot find somebody worthy of acting as Head of State.

Forcrissakes, If Canadians insists on a Monarchy, why not find some out of work prince and make him King of Canada. That is what Greece, England and many other countries did through the ages.

The concept of the Queen of England being Head of State of Canada is deeply insulting to many Canadians.
Our present system has resulted in an excellent nation. I see no reason to put the nation through a constitutional crisis with all the attendant grifters looking to add their two cents worth. Especially to "resolve" what is now essentially a ceremonial role.

I foresee the problems arising from reopening the constitution to be far worse than a throne speech every few years and changing how we choose a ribbon cutter.
 

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Our present system has resulted in an excellent nation. I see no reason to put the nation through a constitutional crisis with all the attendant grifters looking to add their two cents worth. Especially to "resolve" what is now essentially a ceremonial role.

I foresee the problems arising from reopening the constitution to be far worse than a throne speech every few years and changing how we choose a ribbon cutter.
Principles.
 

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He and the Queen were just vaccinated.

Waste of a vaccine.

Too bad the loser you love is one of the families trying to kill the roaches of the earth (us) off. I guess you havent noticed that the Queen only shakes hands with gloves on for years before covid? I wonder why? :unsure:

Wish you educated yourself more on who runs the world and what they have planned for us. Maybe you'd jump for joy like the billions of others around the world today?


How many of your family members reached 99 years old without cancer or disease?
Both my parents....
 
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Our present system has resulted in an excellent nation. I see no reason to put the nation through a constitutional crisis with all the attendant grifters looking to add their two cents worth. Especially to "resolve" what is now essentially a ceremonial role.

I foresee the problems arising from reopening the constitution to be far worse than a throne speech every few years and changing how we choose a ribbon cutter.
Perfectly stated.
 

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Our present system has resulted in an excellent nation. I see no reason to put the nation through a constitutional crisis with all the attendant grifters looking to add their two cents worth. Especially to "resolve" what is now essentially a ceremonial role.

I foresee the problems arising from reopening the constitution to be far worse than a throne speech every few years and changing how we choose a ribbon cutter.
Excellent point. An indication of a great and mature nation is fixing what is actually broken and needs addressing. Fixing crap that matters little is a fool's errand.
 
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Princess Margaret, who had cancer and then died from a stroke at 71, doesn't fit in with your stupid conspiracy theory.

Evidently she liked to eat bearded clams. May that did her in?
 

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Principles.
In return I say there is far more chance of numerous unprincipled types seeking to undermine or take advantage of opening up the constitution for their own personal political agendas and gripes. Once you open it up the 12 provinces are in play. Then you would have the Aborigional nations coming in. Then numerous one issue types from Abortion abolishonists, to separatists(both Quebec and Alberta), seat allocation types(guaranteeing minimums), minority grievances, historical greavances, federalists wanting to strengthen their power, provincial leaders the same.

It would be far more likely to undermine the fabric of Canadian society, and divide us as never before as the press and social media whipped up a frenzy.

No thank you.
 

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