Porn Industry Starting To Cut Ties With James Dean

[canada-man]

.... And people wonder why women don't report rape. Look at all of this bullshit victim blaming. Utter stupidity.

And Canada Man, you are a piece of work. If you hate women so much, why the hell are you even here? Go rub one out to pictures of yourself, because clearly you think that you are above any of the ladies you could find here.

show me a post where i specifically said i hate women. show me i post where i attacked a woman here or any women out there because of their gender?


https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

Charge of Misogyny (Code Black)

Discussion: The target is accused of displaying some form of unwarranted malice to a particular woman or to women in general. Examples:

“You misogynist creep!”
“Why do you hate women?”
“Do you love your mother?”
“You are insensitive to the plight of women.”
“You are mean-spirited.”
“You view women as doormats.”
“You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
“You are going to make me cry.”
Response: One may ask the accuser how does a pro-male agenda become inherently anti-female (especially since feminists often claim that gains for men and women are “not a zero-sum game”). One may also ask the accuser how do they account for women who agree with the target’s viewpoints. The Code Black shaming tactic often integrates the logical fallacies of “argumentum ad misericordiam” (viz., argumentation based on pity for women) and/or“argumentum in terrorem” (viz., arousing fear about what the target wants to do to women).

 

[canada-man]

Former Adult Actress Says James Deen Choked Her Until She Blacked Out

A former adult actress said that porn actor James Deen choked her so aggressively during her first adult scene that she passed out, joining a growing list of women who have accused Deen of assault.
Miss Genocide, a former adult film actress who now works in mainstream film as Holly Jee, told LAist she worked with Deen when shooting scenes for alt porn company Burning Angel.
She said she was in her early 20s when she met Deen in New York in 2009, when he was dating adult performer Joanna Angel, the founder of Burning Angel. This was Jee's first time shooting adult scenes, and though she was apprehensive, she said she wanted to trust the people she was working with. She said Deen was nice when she first met him, but aggressive behavior soon emerged.
LAist has reached out to Deen as well as Angel for their comment on her allegations, and we will update this post if we hear back from them.

http://laist.com/2015/12/08/holly_deen_accusations.php

 

[canada-man]

James Deen: "Multiple women have told me journalists have offered them up to five thousand dollars for stories about me".

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...eaks-his-silence-i-am-completely-baffled.html

is the UVA hoax part 2

 

[omegaphallic]

.... And people wonder why women don't report rape. Look at all of this bullshit victim blaming. Utter stupidity.

And Canada Man, you are a piece of work. If you hate women so much, why the hell are you even here? Go rub one out to pictures of yourself, because clearly you think that you are above any of the ladies you could find here.

I'm not saying he's innocent and the very least he's admitted to be an asshole and possible pushing things to far, but he does a side to things that deseves to be heard.

And I admit that there have been some idiots of a said stupid things about this women and have used stunned logic, but the same is true for the other side.

And some of his points are logic and makes sense.

Trying to make money off scenes of use having sex with the man you accused of raping you, is fucked up, because either he really raped her, and how the fuck are you suppose fap to that unless you a psycho, or he didn't in which case she destroyed an innocent man to boost sales, again how is someone, even kinky supposed to fap to that?

This whole thing is fucked up.

 

[canada-man]

Workplace safety agency investigates porn star James Deen's company following rape allegations


The California watchdog agency tasked with ensuring safety in the workplace confirmed Wednesday it is investigating porn actor James Deen's production company after allegations that the star of thousands of hard-core films sexually assaulted women on and off movie sets.

State Division of Occupational Safety and Health spokeswoman Julia Bernstein said the investigation was opened Tuesday and could last as long as six months. She said investigators were prompted by a complaint, but declined to give any indication what type of workplace safety violation was alleged.

Deen, who over the past week has been accused by eight porn actresses, including his former girlfriend, of raping or assaulting them, has vigorously denied the allegations. He noted he's neither been charged with a crime nor sued by any of his accusers.

http://www.theprovince.com/business...tes+porn+star+james+deens/11577834/story.html

 

[nottyboi]

And you know this how exactly???

Because of how they are going about it, trying to use it to generate publicity. If you were raped, go to the police, you don't use twitter..GEEZ.

It will be pretty funny if all the content is declared to be NC sex and therefore illegal and her site gets shut down ...OOPS.

 

[Barca]

Because of how they are going about it, trying to use it to generate publicity. If you were raped, go to the police, you don't use twitter..GEEZ.

It will be pretty funny if all the content is declared to be NC sex and therefore illegal and her site gets shut down ...OOPS.

So you're inferring based on your observation from the outside of the situation.

It's just easier to admit you don't know and are just speculating.

 

[canada-man]

Former Adult Actress Says James Deen Choked Her Until She Blacked Out

A former adult actress said that porn actor James Deen choked her so aggressively during her first adult scene that she passed out, joining a growing list of women who have accused Deen of assault.
Miss Genocide, a former adult film actress who now works in mainstream film as Holly Jee, told LAist she worked with Deen when shooting scenes for alt porn company Burning Angel.
She said she was in her early 20s when she met Deen in New York in 2009, when he was dating adult performer Joanna Angel, the founder of Burning Angel. This was Jee's first time shooting adult scenes, and though she was apprehensive, she said she wanted to trust the people she was working with. She said Deen was nice when she first met him, but aggressive behavior soon emerged.
LAist has reached out to Deen as well as Angel for their comment on her allegations, and we will update this post if we hear back from them.

http://laist.com/2015/12/08/holly_deen_accusations.php

miss genocide and james deen


http://www.pornwatchers.com/video/miss-genocide-pov-6800.html

 

[AK-47]

So you're inferring based on your observation from the outside of the situation.

It's just easier to admit you don't know and are just speculating

He does have a point though, how can Dean be held guilty if he hasnt even been charged or convicted yet.

First thing those girls shouldve done was go to the cops

 

[Barca]

He does have a point though, how can Dean be held guilty if he hasnt even been charged or convicted yet.

First thing those girls shouldve done was go to the cops

I agree. I haven't jumped to any conclusions like others have about JD although he doe appear to be a dick, it doesn't mean he's guilty of what he's being accused of.

Nottyboi however, as is his custom, has jumped to his own conclusion without facts as well but passed them off as facts. He's guilty of of very same error others are committing albeit with a different accusation to the other side of the issue.

 

[nottyboi]

I agree. I haven't jumped to any conclusions like others have about JD although he doe appear to be a dick, it doesn't mean he's guilty of what he's being accused of.

Nottyboi however, as is his custom, has jumped to his own conclusion without facts as well but passed them off as facts. He's guilty of of very same error others are committing albeit with a different accusation to the other side of the issue.

The way this whole thing has gone down has pretty much undermined any potential prosecution. So as accorded by the laws I am giving James Deen his right to be ASSUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.. geez. Don't you clowns understand the law? No wonder mobs form. The only conclusion available and proper under the law at this point is INNOCENCE.

 

[Barca]

And I quote:

Just some jealous bitches seeing him become more and more successful as their fame and looks fade.......awayyyyyyyyyyy.

The way this whole thing has gone down has pretty much undermined any potential prosecution. So as accorded by the laws I am giving James Deen his right to be ASSUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.. geez. Don't you clowns understand the law? No wonder mobs form. The only conclusion available and proper under the law at this point is INNOCENCE.

You are doing the very same assuming that you accuse others of. You call me a clown for not understanding the law? I'm not the one making assumptions ON EITHER SIDE. Objectivity isn't one-sided as it appears to be with you.

 

[glamphotographer]

The way this whole thing has gone down has pretty much undermined any potential prosecution. So as accorded by the laws I am giving James Deen his right to be ASSUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.. geez. Don't you clowns understand the law? No wonder mobs form. The only conclusion available and proper under the law at this point is INNOCENCE.

Yes according to the law in America he is innocent til proven guilty but in the social media world that's different and the porn industry is backing up their female performers by making James pay by letting him go of his contracts. No worries James can always start up his own website and new young girls to sodomize on and off set, consent or no consent. Because to James, consent is a simple thing as a girl looking at him or crossing his path.

 

[nottyboi]

Yes according to the law in America he is innocent til proven guilty but in the social media world that's different and the porn industry is backing up their female performers by making James pay by letting him go of his contracts. No worries James can always start up his own website and new young girls to sodomize on and off set, consent or no consent. Because to James, consent is a simple thing as a girl looking at him or crossing his path.

I am pretty sure he has signed forms from the young women agreeing to be sodomized on camera. I have to admit that is a higher standard of consent I have obtained from any young women I have sodomized.

 

[nottyboi]

And I quote:





You are doing the very same assuming that you accuse others of. You call me a clown for not understanding the law? I'm not the one making assumptions ON EITHER SIDE. Objectivity isn't one-sided as it appears to be with you.

When you bring things out into the public domain and use social media to conduct a public prosecution, that is the only way to level the playing field. This is why people should not do this stuff, either file a criminal complaint or shaddap.

 

[canada-man]

 

[Barca]

When you bring things out into the public domain and use social media to conduct a public prosecution, that is the only way to level the playing field. This is why people should not do this stuff, either file a criminal complaint or shaddap.

So your position is that two wrongs make a right. And that even though you are doing the exact same thing as the others in this thread, in your case it's justifiable but in their case it's stupidity. Is that about right?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy bro.

 

[nottyboi]

So your position is that two wrongs make a right. And that even though you are doing the exact same thing as the others in this thread, in your case it's justifiable but in their case it's stupidity. Is that about right?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy bro.

No, because they initiated the action, if they did not, nothing would have happened from the other side. Its kinda like starting a war and then saying the other party shooting back is hypocritical. That is why we have a legal process and any attempt to subvert it should be met with skepticism and criticism. What Stoya did was outside the law, and it could destroy the career of James Deen even if he is found not guilty. That is not just and frankly its a form of bullying.

 

[dirkd101]

I fail to see the difference, please explain?

The difference is that I may find it reprehensible, but I don't care if you like it and therefore no judgement is passed on you for liking it.

 

[canada-man]

from Casey Calvert

she knows this is nothing more than a rape hoax.




http://caseycalvert.com/everything-im-not-saying-re-james-and-stoya

For the past week, I’ve felt like a coward. There’s been a lot of rumor and allegation going around, and I’ve chosen to stay quiet, afraid of backlash. There are too many things I’m not allowed to say.

I’m not allowed to say that I’m ashamed this is all we can talk about. I’m ashamed that I feel like I can’t say these things. I’m ashamed of the bandwagon.

I’m not allowed to say that I’m impressed by how quickly we’ve reacted, and that some important issues are being talked about, only because I also don’t believe in the court of public opinion.

I’m not allowed to say that I believe in supporting those who have been violated, and of course sex workers can be raped. I believe in speaking out, and that rapists should be punished. But I don’t believe in defamation.

I’m not allowed to say that sometimes women make shit up, as much as it kills my feminist heart.

I’m not allowed to say that I know this isn’t the first time she’s cried rape.

I’m not allowed to say that my heart is breaking for James Deen.

I’m not allowed to say that I know his breakup with Stoya was tumultuous to say the least, and he is taking the high road staying silent. But I also know the fight isn’t fair, and I will support him if it gets ugly.

I’m not allowed to say that I’ve seen a video, directed by Stoya, shot a month after they broke up, in which she breaks character, says, “stop,” and he immediately stops.

I’m not allowed to say that ostracizing every male performer who’s crossed the line with a female performer would lead to a business with no male talent. I’ve lost track of my own stories.

I’m not allowed to say that James, however, has only ever treated me with the utmost respect. He is one of the few people I still trust to top me for a rough scene, and I’m very picky now.

I’m not allowed to say that I will continue to work with him, continue to request him, continue to be excited when I hear he’s my scene partner.

I’m not allowed to say that, sure, James has done some fucked up shit. Quite a few directors have let him, even encouraged him, to be extra rough. And I know his proclivities in private life. But just because someone slaps someone, or scares them, doesn’t make them a rapist. He has a dark side, but he’s not this monster.

I’m not allowed to say that James Deen is my friend.

I’m not allowed to say that I’m not allowed to say these things.

I selfishly just want this all to go away, but it doesn’t seem like that’s happening anytime soon. I guess it doesn’t matter. I can’t say anything.

Except I just did.

—


Dec 5th, 2:04pm EDIT: re: statement about male performers crossing the line: When I’m on set, it’s my responsibility to speak up if I am not comfortable. If I choose not to, that’s on me. Porn is a full contact sport. And yes, sometimes guys get carried away. That makes them shitty people, not abusers or rapists. There is a difference.