Thanks, it seems weird that the ipt site went down after I link to that, its like someone doesn't want it to be seen.
Porn Industry Starting To Cut Ties With James Dean
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Of course, which is bad, but the false rape are a large minority.
The point isn't to suggest that rape isn't a problem, its a problem along with all other crime of course, but point is is that assuming all women are telling the truth is bullshit and that feminist politization of rape causing increasing rates of innocent men to be harm, sometimes on purpose.
I quickly skimmed the article a few things that concern me the references are 20+ years old.
One of the notes at the end mentioned that the stat they provided is widely disputed or something to that effect.
But if you take the article as the truth anywhere from 8 to 27% might be false. But they pointed out that the 27% is tough to measure correctly because 45% of cases couldn't be confirmed if it was a rape or not..... so that might raise or lower that 27%. I imagine a lot of rapists probably plan things out which is why that 45% couldn't be confirmed. The idea that rapists are just uncontrolled animals to me is false. I see them more as predators..... take a look at the disturbingly high number of disabled kids who are abused sexually..... it's because those fuckers pick vulnerable targets.
Anyways, I don't see why you guys are so vigorous in your defense. Like I said before let's just wait and let the dust settle. False accusations wouldn't be such a big problem if people waited for the investigation to run its course. Pre judging this person is the real problem not that false accusations occur.
Which is why we should not judge people in the court of opinions and let the police do their job.
I don't assume the woman is a liar but nor do I assume the man is guilty.
That is probably true, but what does that have to do with rape hoaxes being abhorrent? Rape hoaxes victimize both innocent people and genuine rape victims as it make prosecution more difficult and people more blase to the actual crime.
Because it seems to me certain guys here want to make hoaxes the main focus. Yes they happen but false accusations shouldn't affect how we deal with these situations. As i said before let the police do their due diligence and the public should with old judgement until after the investigation.
Sorry but guys like canada man remind me of mens rights activists. Gone so far off the path they come across as crazy. Present us with data not rants if you want support otherwise you get the same amount of time as that crazy preacher guy at yonge and Dundas.
Well that is because the allegations were never reported to the police, and instead the alleged victims are attempting to conduct a social media lynching. People that go this route deserve all the scorn and skepticism they get because it also subverts the criminal justice system.
so asking people to report rape allegations to the police and let the courts prosecute rapists is crazy and being a men's rights activists? can you find a case where rapists have been jailed based on accusations on twitter and the media?
islam radicals are handing free books at Dundas square that advocate hate against non-believers, wife beating and subjugation of women. none of you who have a problem with my posts have the balls to go down there and confront them
http://en.cijnews.com/?p=16515
http://en.cijnews.com/?p=16515
that was to frankcastle and others here who have a problem with me criticizing feminism and false rape hoaxes.
Lol. Luckily the 'real' Dean has been gone for decades, and so was not hard to have confusion averted.
13 Girls Conspired To Accuse A Teen Male Of Rape, He Spent A YEAR In Prison!
Tyler Kost, 19 and from Phoenix, was arrested last May for allegedly committing sexual crimes against 13 girls aged 13 to 17. Kost’s lawyers say the girls conspired against him with false rape allegations because they wanted to “teach him a lesson” for being a “player.”
Lawyers for Kost claim they have a “treasure trove” of evidence from Facebook and Instagram proving the girls lied. The girls referred to the movie John Tucker Must Die, whose plot involves ex-girlfriends taking revenge against their ex-boyfriend, when plotting their revenge against Tyler Kost.
The defense entered into evidence over 98,000 pages from social media including group chats between 3 of the accusers and three witnesses. The messages reveal the girls were working together to build a false story against Tyler. One of the girls excitedly claiming, “This is going to be so much fun!” One of the girls who accused Kost of raping and impregnating her said on her Instagram account weeks after the alleged attack, she wanted to marry Tyler Kost and “Tyler is a dream come true of a boyfriend.”
The defense says these conversations took place weeks before Tyler was accused of rape. The defense would like access to at least 8 other people’s social media accounts to determine how far the plot reached. Facebook privacy policies require a court order from the state before any access can be given, however the state is refusing to issue the order.
Defense Attorney Michael Alarid is concerned with the state’s behavior considering the information his team has found. “Quite frankly the fact that the state is refusing to get any additional social media records is concerning. It’s shocking. Based on what we’ve uncovered so far they should be dismissing several charges. Instead they are digging their heels in and they are refusing to give us anything additional,” Alarid said.
Kost attorney Christine Whalin said “Over a year ago Mr. Kost was publicly accused of being a serial rapist. What we know now is that there was a group of girls who conspired against Tyler to put him in jail. They succeeded in that, and Tyler has now been in jail for over a year based on those lies.”
There is a narrative in society that says only a tiny fraction of rape accusations are false, yet day after day stories of accusers making false accusations appear. Tyler Kost has spent over a year in jail, his face plastered in the media all over the world with the identifier, serial rapist, attached.
If the allegations are proven to be false, these girls must be made an example of. The penalty for falsely accusing someone of such heinous acts, should closely align to the penalty the accused would have faced.
Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/1...rape-he-spent-a-year-in-prison/#ixzz3uXT4afNJ
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Tyler Kost, 19 and from Phoenix, was arrested last May for allegedly committing sexual crimes against 13 girls aged 13 to 17. Kost’s lawyers say the girls conspired against him with false rape allegations because they wanted to “teach him a lesson” for being a “player.”
Lawyers for Kost claim they have a “treasure trove” of evidence from Facebook and Instagram proving the girls lied. The girls referred to the movie John Tucker Must Die, whose plot involves ex-girlfriends taking revenge against their ex-boyfriend, when plotting their revenge against Tyler Kost.
The defense entered into evidence over 98,000 pages from social media including group chats between 3 of the accusers and three witnesses. The messages reveal the girls were working together to build a false story against Tyler. One of the girls excitedly claiming, “This is going to be so much fun!” One of the girls who accused Kost of raping and impregnating her said on her Instagram account weeks after the alleged attack, she wanted to marry Tyler Kost and “Tyler is a dream come true of a boyfriend.”
The defense says these conversations took place weeks before Tyler was accused of rape. The defense would like access to at least 8 other people’s social media accounts to determine how far the plot reached. Facebook privacy policies require a court order from the state before any access can be given, however the state is refusing to issue the order.
Defense Attorney Michael Alarid is concerned with the state’s behavior considering the information his team has found. “Quite frankly the fact that the state is refusing to get any additional social media records is concerning. It’s shocking. Based on what we’ve uncovered so far they should be dismissing several charges. Instead they are digging their heels in and they are refusing to give us anything additional,” Alarid said.
Kost attorney Christine Whalin said “Over a year ago Mr. Kost was publicly accused of being a serial rapist. What we know now is that there was a group of girls who conspired against Tyler to put him in jail. They succeeded in that, and Tyler has now been in jail for over a year based on those lies.”
There is a narrative in society that says only a tiny fraction of rape accusations are false, yet day after day stories of accusers making false accusations appear. Tyler Kost has spent over a year in jail, his face plastered in the media all over the world with the identifier, serial rapist, attached.
If the allegations are proven to be false, these girls must be made an example of. The penalty for falsely accusing someone of such heinous acts, should closely align to the penalty the accused would have faced.
Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/1...rape-he-spent-a-year-in-prison/#ixzz3uXT4afNJ
Follow us: @TheLibRepublic on Twitter
https://mysticajade.wordpress.com/2015/12/04/a-different-perspective/
A Different Perspective
December 4, 2015 mysticajade
James Deen. Take a minute. What immediately comes to your mind? Porn. Sex God. Piercing blue eyes. That boyish grin. That Jew fro you want to run your hands through. Dominance. That’s what used to run through everyone’s minds, but due to recent accusations the thoughts have shifted. What you’re hearing about is not the man that I know. Here’s what I know.
The James I know went over my boundaries and respected them during all of my shoots for jamesdeen.com and for Kink (sexandsubmission.com). When I said don’t touch my nose because it will bleed, he made sure to not be rough around my nose. When we were at kink and I said no marks that weren’t able to be covered by my Hooters uniform, he respected that. When I used my safe word at Kink studios he backed up and said “I’m not even inside you” and I told him I had hair in my mouth. He paid attention to my body language and responded accordingly. I could go on and on about how respectful he is.
During the filming of Diary of a Sex Slave I was so nervous. My 2nd shoot ever. Second time ever being in front of the camera. A movie all about me, created for me, by James. I was going to have sex with 9 people over the course of a 13 hour day… Who wouldn’t be nervous?! Between James and Danny Wylde I felt so comfortable. James was constantly checking in on me making sure I was ok or if I needed anything. Snacks? Water? Anything? Danny would make sure I had water and my sweater after every scene. I spent 2 hours on my knees getting fucked hard into those tile floors and when there was a time the camera couldn’t see my knees James made sure I had padding so I wasn’t too uncomfortable. He told everyone to be nice to me because I was new and I was going to have a long day. He told all the guys running a train on me to keep it soft core, to not smack my ass, to NOT put it in my butt… Guess what? First person comes in and smacks my ass. James stopped the scene and said “what did I say? Don’t smack her ass.” The next scene was the hardest to date.
Thw DP. Double penetration. A dick in my ass and a dick in my pussy. We were an hour behind schedule, in a race against the natural light which was slowly going down as night fell. James was a bit stressed and I could tell. During filming this third scene I was experiencing some discomfort which I’m sure is normal for a DP and even more normal for that DP to be your third scene in a day. I started saying “ow” and James stopped the scene saying “I can’t use that if you’re saying ow. Do you need a break? Do you need lube? Go take a 5 minute break.” I was overwhelmed, quite frankly. I went in the bathroom and I just felt the tears swelling up in my eyes. I didn’t want to disappoint him. He came in and wanted to make sure I was ok. He then gave me a lesson that I will never forget. A lesson on communication. He said I need to tell him when I need something so he can get that thing for me, whatever it is. He asked me if I can take 5 more minutes of anal and then he promised nothing else would go in my ass for the rest of the day… And he kept that promise. After 5 scenes and 13 hours, when the crew had left and everyone was paid I remember James grabbing my face and saying “I was so worried about you!” I asked why. He said “because you were crying and I never want you to cry because you’re in pain or uncomfortable. I only want to make you feel good and happy and I am so so proud of you.”
Off set he was the exact same person I have grown to know and love. I was staying at a model house and someone wasn’t being very nice to me and I was really sad. I asked if I could come by to get a copy of Diary of a Sex Slave and a hug. He gave me one of those hugs where they grab the back of your head and just hold you really tight and they make all the bad go away. That’s the James Deen that I know. I am in no way discrediting anyone else’s experiences or time with James, I am just saying there is a different side. I have only known James for a year and maybe he’s a different person years ago from who he is now… I know for damn sure I am not the same person I was 5 years ago or even 1 year ago.
This is my story and my experiences with a friend and colleague… Just as others were telling their story. I’ve never felt more safe and more respected than in the presence of that man.
A Different Perspective
December 4, 2015 mysticajade
James Deen. Take a minute. What immediately comes to your mind? Porn. Sex God. Piercing blue eyes. That boyish grin. That Jew fro you want to run your hands through. Dominance. That’s what used to run through everyone’s minds, but due to recent accusations the thoughts have shifted. What you’re hearing about is not the man that I know. Here’s what I know.
The James I know went over my boundaries and respected them during all of my shoots for jamesdeen.com and for Kink (sexandsubmission.com). When I said don’t touch my nose because it will bleed, he made sure to not be rough around my nose. When we were at kink and I said no marks that weren’t able to be covered by my Hooters uniform, he respected that. When I used my safe word at Kink studios he backed up and said “I’m not even inside you” and I told him I had hair in my mouth. He paid attention to my body language and responded accordingly. I could go on and on about how respectful he is.
During the filming of Diary of a Sex Slave I was so nervous. My 2nd shoot ever. Second time ever being in front of the camera. A movie all about me, created for me, by James. I was going to have sex with 9 people over the course of a 13 hour day… Who wouldn’t be nervous?! Between James and Danny Wylde I felt so comfortable. James was constantly checking in on me making sure I was ok or if I needed anything. Snacks? Water? Anything? Danny would make sure I had water and my sweater after every scene. I spent 2 hours on my knees getting fucked hard into those tile floors and when there was a time the camera couldn’t see my knees James made sure I had padding so I wasn’t too uncomfortable. He told everyone to be nice to me because I was new and I was going to have a long day. He told all the guys running a train on me to keep it soft core, to not smack my ass, to NOT put it in my butt… Guess what? First person comes in and smacks my ass. James stopped the scene and said “what did I say? Don’t smack her ass.” The next scene was the hardest to date.
Thw DP. Double penetration. A dick in my ass and a dick in my pussy. We were an hour behind schedule, in a race against the natural light which was slowly going down as night fell. James was a bit stressed and I could tell. During filming this third scene I was experiencing some discomfort which I’m sure is normal for a DP and even more normal for that DP to be your third scene in a day. I started saying “ow” and James stopped the scene saying “I can’t use that if you’re saying ow. Do you need a break? Do you need lube? Go take a 5 minute break.” I was overwhelmed, quite frankly. I went in the bathroom and I just felt the tears swelling up in my eyes. I didn’t want to disappoint him. He came in and wanted to make sure I was ok. He then gave me a lesson that I will never forget. A lesson on communication. He said I need to tell him when I need something so he can get that thing for me, whatever it is. He asked me if I can take 5 more minutes of anal and then he promised nothing else would go in my ass for the rest of the day… And he kept that promise. After 5 scenes and 13 hours, when the crew had left and everyone was paid I remember James grabbing my face and saying “I was so worried about you!” I asked why. He said “because you were crying and I never want you to cry because you’re in pain or uncomfortable. I only want to make you feel good and happy and I am so so proud of you.”
Off set he was the exact same person I have grown to know and love. I was staying at a model house and someone wasn’t being very nice to me and I was really sad. I asked if I could come by to get a copy of Diary of a Sex Slave and a hug. He gave me one of those hugs where they grab the back of your head and just hold you really tight and they make all the bad go away. That’s the James Deen that I know. I am in no way discrediting anyone else’s experiences or time with James, I am just saying there is a different side. I have only known James for a year and maybe he’s a different person years ago from who he is now… I know for damn sure I am not the same person I was 5 years ago or even 1 year ago.
This is my story and my experiences with a friend and colleague… Just as others were telling their story. I’ve never felt more safe and more respected than in the presence of that man.
islamists printing and handing out books that advocate wife beating, subjugation of women telling them they need a man's permission to have a job and leave the home does not make the national news.
http://newsish.com/p/1034098-james-deen-rape-allegations-reasonable-doubt-broken-media
The controversy surrounding the rape and sexual abuse accusations against adult film star James Deen continues. After accounts from eight different women - or ten, depending on how and whom you count - Deen has broken his near-silence in an interview to The Daily Beast. More recently, writer Brett Easton Ellis, a friend of Deen's, spoke out in his defense in a Hollywood Reporter interview which was quickly decried by feminists as a "misogynist rant" and as "mansplaining" by a "rape apologist." Meanwhile, on Time.com, feminist writer Laurie Penny hails the cultural shift toward believing and supporting women like the ones accusing Deen.
When I first wrote about the case in the New York Observer, I thought Deen's guilt was very probable (while allowing for some possibility of a "bandwagon effect," or of complicated experiences being reinterpreted in a new light). My concern was more with the "believe the survivors" mentality, the rush to bypass due process, and the idea that conviction in the "court of public opinion" - with devastating consequences to a person's career and life - can be based on faith rather than proof.
Since then, a few things have come to my attention that don't exactly exonerate Dean but, at the very least, cast doubt on some of the accusations. What's also troubling is that information which is publicly available, including in the social media, has been entirely erased from the mainstream media narrative of the story.
Here are a few things the media haven't told us:
Porn actress Kora Peters's account of victimization by Deen is called into question by social media and video records.
Here is Peters's story as told to The Daily Beast:
It was supposed to be a regular boy/girl sex scene (anal was one of her "no's"), but her co-star apparently had other plans. "James [Deen] kept trying to get inside my ass but I kept pushing him away, so he choked me, then he slammed my face down into the couch and forced himself in my ass anyway," says Peters. "The crew all high-fived him and told him what a great job he did getting an anal scene for the price of a boy/girl scene." ... Ever since that scarring incident, Peters says she's avoided Deen and hasn't worked with him since.
Yet Deen's website has a behind-the-scenes video with Peters (which I will not link since it contains hardcore porn, but which can be easily found by googling) in which, about 5 minutes into the 9-minute clip, they briefly have anal sex and Peters laughingly tells Deen, "This is the second time you got my ass ... and the only [unintelligible] that ever got it. And I actually had on my thing, 'no anal.'" This, at the very least, seems to contradict Peters's claim that she "avoided Deen" and did not work with him after the incident in which he forced anal intercourse on her. It also raises major questions about Peters's claims of coercion.
In 2012 and 2014, Peters also tweeted at Deen to banter about his being "the only man in porn" to have done anal-sex scenes with her. Those tweets have apparently been deleted from her account but are preserved in screenshots whose authenticity she does not dispute in a recent Twitter exchange.
I contacted Peters on Twitter to ask about these apparent inconsistencies. In a direct-message exchange on December 14, she told me that she did agree to anal sex with Deen for the video on his site - but before the alleged sexual assault, which occurred some time later while making a film for "a large company." As for Peters' reference on the video to "the second time," she says, "James and I had to do the SAME scene twice for his site. We stopped [because] I cried & they couldn't use the footage." She also wrote, "I tried to cozy up to James on social media to buy the raw footage but he wanted an insane amount of $$ for it & only wanted to send me the edited version." (In his Daily Beast interview, Dean says that the video for his site was shot after the anal sex scene in the movie.)
When I asked Peters a follow-up question about the chronology of the video and the alleged on-set rape, she indicated she wanted to end the conversation and retire for the night. (She was traveling overseas and in a different time zone.) A few minutes later, she messaged me to send screenshots of tweets by Deen as proof that "he's not a nice guy"; in those tweets, Deen jokes about sex and violence, admits that "I do say some f***ed up s**t to people while I'm having sex with them," and tells someone, "I'm sorry but I just don't care about you or our conflicting definitions of morality." I tried, yet again, to ask Peters about the timeline for the video and the alleged assault. She replied, "Totally done answering questions and being interrogated on vacation."
Is Peters's explanation of these apparent inconsistencies plausible? Perhaps, though it is worth noting that the Daily Beast article says the on-set violation occurred "early on in her career." Meanwhile, Peters's December 3 response to the tweet with the screenshots of her 2012 and 2014 tweets to Deen offers a still different scenario: "ecause after that I put anal on my no list. That's why I NEVER filmed another anal scene."
At the very least, all this seems highly relevant to the story.
Another alleged Deen victim, Amber Rayne, apparently does not regard her experience with Deen as sexual assault.
Rayne, who considers herself a friend of Deen's, told her story to The Daily Beast for a December 2 article. According to her account, partly corroborated in a forum post by the late porn film director Chico Wang, Deen got aggressive with her during an anal sex scene after she verbally goaded him, causing her to bleed and, later, to require stitches. Rayne told The Beast that she eventually agreed to work with Deen again and had a very good experience, and that she had blamed the initial fiasco on his immaturity and inexperience at the time. She also appeared to say that she had reconsidered this in view of the new accusations against him.
However, later on the day the article appeared, Rayne stated on Twitter that she was not sexually assaulted: "I was in a scene that was unnecessarily brutal and left me injured... It was an isolated incident." She added that she only spoke out to "stop rumors." Rayne reiterated this the next day in a Twitter exchange with CNN.com's Emanuella Grinberg while declining an interview. "I was not raped. People were assuming that I was amongst those who were. I was involved 9 years ago in a scene that became unnecessarily rough and out of control due to lack of maturity and I was injured and out of work. I was not raped and did not want to be involved in this debacle. I only said something to debunk the rumor," Rayne wrote in a string of tweets.
Shortly after the first accusation against Deen was made on Twitter by his ex-girlfriend and fellow adult performer Stoya, feminist comedian, YouTube personality and activist Gaby Dunn told several people in Twitter direct messages that she knew for a fact Stoya was lying but would not say so publicly because she is "a firm believer in believing victims."
After her messages were leaked, Dunn tweeted some screenshots of them to quell the rumors. She later deleted those tweets, but they were saved in screenshots reported as authentic by Vocativ and not disputed by Dunn.
Whether Dunn actually knows something that undercuts Stoya's claim is impossible to tell, especially when she isn't talking. But Dunn's astounding message shows how horrific the "believe the victims" ideology is:
I think women should be believe when they make accusations. I just happen to know this is the rare 1 percent of situations in which this is false. But more than that, I don't want to contribute to a culture where people accuse women of lying about sexual assault. I understand why people believe Stoya and they should believe sex workers can be raped. They should believe women. It has a larger impact on all victims to say she is lying so I won't do it publicly. The damage is done to him. But I don't want there to be more damage to real victims by disparaging Stoya.
In other words: someone who believes she has knowledge that a man is falsely accused of rape (this was before any of the other accusations against Deen) is refusing to say so publicly because people "should believe women." This is dangerous zealotry, profoundly bigoted and utterly destructive to individual rights.
Another Deen accuser, porn actress Nicki Blue, has substantially changed her story (she claims that it was initially misreported) to say that some of the non-consensual acts of which she accused Deen may have been committed by other participants in a drunken sex party. Blue now says that "Princess Donna," a porn-industry executive and film director, was an active participant in group sexual activity that started out as "fun" but later turned abusive and frightening. Graphic photos linked in the article that gives her new account shows a woman penetrating Blue with the bottle while Deen stands over her.
Does any of this prove Deen is innocent? No, of course not. We should certainly keep in mind that the behind-the-scenes video of Deen and Peters on Deen's site, in which Peters seems cheerful, relaxed, and affectionate toward Deen, has been edited at Deen's discretion. What's more, some of the tactics used in Deen's defense are dubious and likely to backfire. Thus, Ellis seems to suggest that the very idea of people claiming rape or sexual abuse "in the porn world" or "at BDSM invite-only parties" is absurd, which comes dangerously close to saying that sex workers cannot be raped and that a person who attends a BDSM party forfeits the right to say no to a particular activity. Ellis also claims that Deen has text messages proving Stoya had threatened to accuse him of rape while they were going through a tumultuous breakup. I have no idea if Deen has authorized Ellis to talk about this. But without evidence to back up such an explosive claim, this is just another unproven accusation.
But it is also worth noting that Ellis is not, as Hollywood Reporter claims, the first person other than Deen himself to speak out in Deen's defense. Adult performer, sex educator, and Huffington Post contributor Casey Calvert wrote a blogpost in support of Deen on December 5. Calvert, who has worked with Deen and says she is eager to work with him again, made it clear that she feels she is "not allowed" to say what she really knows and believes. Another adult performer who has worked with him, Asphyxia Noir, also defended Deen on her Tumblr blog.
Both Calvert and Noir say that it's extremely common in porn and BDSM for lines to be crossed. Of course that doesn't mean abuse and rape are an acceptable part of that scene. But we can also recognize that in a constantly sexualized environment, particularly one where physical roughness and even consensual violence are part of the repertoire, things can get out of hand, boundaries can get pushed, a welcome activity can quickly turn unwelcome or be retroactively reframed as unwelcome. (Nicki Blue's account, for instance, sounds like the story of an inexperienced young woman who wandered into a wild sex party and ended up feeling scared and helpless when things got wilder than she expected.) Both Calvert and Noir acknowledge that Deen is capable of behaving badly; Calvert notes that directors have not only allowed but encouraged him to be extra rough. Both also stress that being a jerk at times is quite different from being a rapist or an abuser.
Frankly, Deen's career is not of great concern to me. What concerns me is a social climate in which "believing victims" and "supporting women" is elevated to a dogma that, at least in some people's minds, warrants supporting an accusation that you believe to be false. A climate in which people get attacked and bullied into silence for speaking in support of Deen and even Aurora Snow, the Daily Beast writer who had written about Deen's accusers, gets grief on Twitter for allowing Deen to tell his side. A climate in which facts that raise questions about the accusers' credibility get left out of the mainstream media narrative.
For the sake of the cultural climate, I sincerely hope that someone in this case takes legal action, whether it's one or more of Deen's accusers filling a criminal complaint or a civil lawsuit, or Deen suing for defamation. This story needs evidence to either corroborate or refute the charges. Sexual assault allegations need to be heard and taken seriously - which also means they should be investigated. But "Believe the victims!" is the slogan of a cult that needs to be stopped.
http://newsish.com/p/1034098-james-deen-rape-allegations-reasonable-doubt-broken-media
The controversy surrounding the rape and sexual abuse accusations against adult film star James Deen continues. After accounts from eight different women - or ten, depending on how and whom you count - Deen has broken his near-silence in an interview to The Daily Beast. More recently, writer Brett Easton Ellis, a friend of Deen's, spoke out in his defense in a Hollywood Reporter interview which was quickly decried by feminists as a "misogynist rant" and as "mansplaining" by a "rape apologist." Meanwhile, on Time.com, feminist writer Laurie Penny hails the cultural shift toward believing and supporting women like the ones accusing Deen.
When I first wrote about the case in the New York Observer, I thought Deen's guilt was very probable (while allowing for some possibility of a "bandwagon effect," or of complicated experiences being reinterpreted in a new light). My concern was more with the "believe the survivors" mentality, the rush to bypass due process, and the idea that conviction in the "court of public opinion" - with devastating consequences to a person's career and life - can be based on faith rather than proof.
Since then, a few things have come to my attention that don't exactly exonerate Dean but, at the very least, cast doubt on some of the accusations. What's also troubling is that information which is publicly available, including in the social media, has been entirely erased from the mainstream media narrative of the story.
Here are a few things the media haven't told us:
Porn actress Kora Peters's account of victimization by Deen is called into question by social media and video records.
Here is Peters's story as told to The Daily Beast:
It was supposed to be a regular boy/girl sex scene (anal was one of her "no's"), but her co-star apparently had other plans. "James [Deen] kept trying to get inside my ass but I kept pushing him away, so he choked me, then he slammed my face down into the couch and forced himself in my ass anyway," says Peters. "The crew all high-fived him and told him what a great job he did getting an anal scene for the price of a boy/girl scene." ... Ever since that scarring incident, Peters says she's avoided Deen and hasn't worked with him since.
Yet Deen's website has a behind-the-scenes video with Peters (which I will not link since it contains hardcore porn, but which can be easily found by googling) in which, about 5 minutes into the 9-minute clip, they briefly have anal sex and Peters laughingly tells Deen, "This is the second time you got my ass ... and the only [unintelligible] that ever got it. And I actually had on my thing, 'no anal.'" This, at the very least, seems to contradict Peters's claim that she "avoided Deen" and did not work with him after the incident in which he forced anal intercourse on her. It also raises major questions about Peters's claims of coercion.
In 2012 and 2014, Peters also tweeted at Deen to banter about his being "the only man in porn" to have done anal-sex scenes with her. Those tweets have apparently been deleted from her account but are preserved in screenshots whose authenticity she does not dispute in a recent Twitter exchange.
I contacted Peters on Twitter to ask about these apparent inconsistencies. In a direct-message exchange on December 14, she told me that she did agree to anal sex with Deen for the video on his site - but before the alleged sexual assault, which occurred some time later while making a film for "a large company." As for Peters' reference on the video to "the second time," she says, "James and I had to do the SAME scene twice for his site. We stopped [because] I cried & they couldn't use the footage." She also wrote, "I tried to cozy up to James on social media to buy the raw footage but he wanted an insane amount of $$ for it & only wanted to send me the edited version." (In his Daily Beast interview, Dean says that the video for his site was shot after the anal sex scene in the movie.)
When I asked Peters a follow-up question about the chronology of the video and the alleged on-set rape, she indicated she wanted to end the conversation and retire for the night. (She was traveling overseas and in a different time zone.) A few minutes later, she messaged me to send screenshots of tweets by Deen as proof that "he's not a nice guy"; in those tweets, Deen jokes about sex and violence, admits that "I do say some f***ed up s**t to people while I'm having sex with them," and tells someone, "I'm sorry but I just don't care about you or our conflicting definitions of morality." I tried, yet again, to ask Peters about the timeline for the video and the alleged assault. She replied, "Totally done answering questions and being interrogated on vacation."
Is Peters's explanation of these apparent inconsistencies plausible? Perhaps, though it is worth noting that the Daily Beast article says the on-set violation occurred "early on in her career." Meanwhile, Peters's December 3 response to the tweet with the screenshots of her 2012 and 2014 tweets to Deen offers a still different scenario: "ecause after that I put anal on my no list. That's why I NEVER filmed another anal scene."
At the very least, all this seems highly relevant to the story.
Another alleged Deen victim, Amber Rayne, apparently does not regard her experience with Deen as sexual assault.
Rayne, who considers herself a friend of Deen's, told her story to The Daily Beast for a December 2 article. According to her account, partly corroborated in a forum post by the late porn film director Chico Wang, Deen got aggressive with her during an anal sex scene after she verbally goaded him, causing her to bleed and, later, to require stitches. Rayne told The Beast that she eventually agreed to work with Deen again and had a very good experience, and that she had blamed the initial fiasco on his immaturity and inexperience at the time. She also appeared to say that she had reconsidered this in view of the new accusations against him.
However, later on the day the article appeared, Rayne stated on Twitter that she was not sexually assaulted: "I was in a scene that was unnecessarily brutal and left me injured... It was an isolated incident." She added that she only spoke out to "stop rumors." Rayne reiterated this the next day in a Twitter exchange with CNN.com's Emanuella Grinberg while declining an interview. "I was not raped. People were assuming that I was amongst those who were. I was involved 9 years ago in a scene that became unnecessarily rough and out of control due to lack of maturity and I was injured and out of work. I was not raped and did not want to be involved in this debacle. I only said something to debunk the rumor," Rayne wrote in a string of tweets.
Shortly after the first accusation against Deen was made on Twitter by his ex-girlfriend and fellow adult performer Stoya, feminist comedian, YouTube personality and activist Gaby Dunn told several people in Twitter direct messages that she knew for a fact Stoya was lying but would not say so publicly because she is "a firm believer in believing victims."
After her messages were leaked, Dunn tweeted some screenshots of them to quell the rumors. She later deleted those tweets, but they were saved in screenshots reported as authentic by Vocativ and not disputed by Dunn.
Whether Dunn actually knows something that undercuts Stoya's claim is impossible to tell, especially when she isn't talking. But Dunn's astounding message shows how horrific the "believe the victims" ideology is:
I think women should be believe when they make accusations. I just happen to know this is the rare 1 percent of situations in which this is false. But more than that, I don't want to contribute to a culture where people accuse women of lying about sexual assault. I understand why people believe Stoya and they should believe sex workers can be raped. They should believe women. It has a larger impact on all victims to say she is lying so I won't do it publicly. The damage is done to him. But I don't want there to be more damage to real victims by disparaging Stoya.
In other words: someone who believes she has knowledge that a man is falsely accused of rape (this was before any of the other accusations against Deen) is refusing to say so publicly because people "should believe women." This is dangerous zealotry, profoundly bigoted and utterly destructive to individual rights.
Another Deen accuser, porn actress Nicki Blue, has substantially changed her story (she claims that it was initially misreported) to say that some of the non-consensual acts of which she accused Deen may have been committed by other participants in a drunken sex party. Blue now says that "Princess Donna," a porn-industry executive and film director, was an active participant in group sexual activity that started out as "fun" but later turned abusive and frightening. Graphic photos linked in the article that gives her new account shows a woman penetrating Blue with the bottle while Deen stands over her.
Does any of this prove Deen is innocent? No, of course not. We should certainly keep in mind that the behind-the-scenes video of Deen and Peters on Deen's site, in which Peters seems cheerful, relaxed, and affectionate toward Deen, has been edited at Deen's discretion. What's more, some of the tactics used in Deen's defense are dubious and likely to backfire. Thus, Ellis seems to suggest that the very idea of people claiming rape or sexual abuse "in the porn world" or "at BDSM invite-only parties" is absurd, which comes dangerously close to saying that sex workers cannot be raped and that a person who attends a BDSM party forfeits the right to say no to a particular activity. Ellis also claims that Deen has text messages proving Stoya had threatened to accuse him of rape while they were going through a tumultuous breakup. I have no idea if Deen has authorized Ellis to talk about this. But without evidence to back up such an explosive claim, this is just another unproven accusation.
But it is also worth noting that Ellis is not, as Hollywood Reporter claims, the first person other than Deen himself to speak out in Deen's defense. Adult performer, sex educator, and Huffington Post contributor Casey Calvert wrote a blogpost in support of Deen on December 5. Calvert, who has worked with Deen and says she is eager to work with him again, made it clear that she feels she is "not allowed" to say what she really knows and believes. Another adult performer who has worked with him, Asphyxia Noir, also defended Deen on her Tumblr blog.
Both Calvert and Noir say that it's extremely common in porn and BDSM for lines to be crossed. Of course that doesn't mean abuse and rape are an acceptable part of that scene. But we can also recognize that in a constantly sexualized environment, particularly one where physical roughness and even consensual violence are part of the repertoire, things can get out of hand, boundaries can get pushed, a welcome activity can quickly turn unwelcome or be retroactively reframed as unwelcome. (Nicki Blue's account, for instance, sounds like the story of an inexperienced young woman who wandered into a wild sex party and ended up feeling scared and helpless when things got wilder than she expected.) Both Calvert and Noir acknowledge that Deen is capable of behaving badly; Calvert notes that directors have not only allowed but encouraged him to be extra rough. Both also stress that being a jerk at times is quite different from being a rapist or an abuser.
Frankly, Deen's career is not of great concern to me. What concerns me is a social climate in which "believing victims" and "supporting women" is elevated to a dogma that, at least in some people's minds, warrants supporting an accusation that you believe to be false. A climate in which people get attacked and bullied into silence for speaking in support of Deen and even Aurora Snow, the Daily Beast writer who had written about Deen's accusers, gets grief on Twitter for allowing Deen to tell his side. A climate in which facts that raise questions about the accusers' credibility get left out of the mainstream media narrative.
For the sake of the cultural climate, I sincerely hope that someone in this case takes legal action, whether it's one or more of Deen's accusers filling a criminal complaint or a civil lawsuit, or Deen suing for defamation. This story needs evidence to either corroborate or refute the charges. Sexual assault allegations need to be heard and taken seriously - which also means they should be investigated. But "Believe the victims!" is the slogan of a cult that needs to be stopped.
