Politics and Providers.
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Read the title of the thread and choose whether or not you want to click and follow. Pretty simple
It was never a finish line, as though 59% is bad but just get to 60% and we're safe. It was a goal based on what was known at the time and based on early looks at the vaccines and based on the initial variant. Then people began to say 80%, but again it was never declared a definitive end line by science, it just became a word of mouth thing.
The reality is with new variants and the fact that most of the world are lagging far behind in vaccination, we could reach 100% vaccination in Canada and will always be in danger of new variants being brought into the country. Until we (as a global community) are all safe, none of us are completely safe...... at least not unless the virus stops mutating. Otherwise we're always going to play catch up.
But don't anyone think that means vaccines are unnecessary or a waste, without the amazing embracing of vaccination, we would be fucked.
I agree with all who are saying it’s pandering - trying to take advantage of an influx of potential customers. I also agree that it will probably prove to have a down side for them - as a couple have mentioned, shortsighted. I know it has lowered my respect for them a couple of notches. I had been a fan. I will avoid them for now.
Good point.It's weird to frame this example as the "providers posting their politics."
It's on the spa's website. That means it's the owner's politics or the management team's politics. I can guarantee you the providers who work there were not polled for a consensus on the issue.
With apologies to this thread for responding to what may be considered political (I don’t believe it is as it’s about science - think it needs to be said), vaccination compliance does not equal immunity - just look at the number of break through cases - so yes, I agree that hosting a cohort of the unvaccinated could be risky.
I mean no disrespect to any poster here, but sometimes terminology is important.
But what those numbers are not showing is who is utilizing urgent health care. The vaccinated are mostly who we would expect to be in hospital with severe illness, the elderly and those with comorbidities. The unvaxxed in hospital and ICU are largely younger and healthy. These people should not need urgent care and very clearly wouldn't need it if they were vaccinated.
Not to mention that those vulnerable being in hospital rather than 6 feet under proves the vaccine efficacy. Without vaccination most with such immune deficiencies would stand no chance.
Hi There,
I’m Britney the new General Manager from Paradise/Angels Touch.
We are in support of the anti mandates and the anti lockdowns. This is not about who is vaccinated and who isn’t. Our businesses have suffered through these lockdowns like so many others. Please feel free to email me for further details. info@angelstouchmassage.ca. We follow all covid protocols from Public Health.
Hi Britney,
Thanks for connecting with the chat here. It is good to get your perspective. Personally, my concern is with the group you are trying to appeal to, but your business so your call. I really do respect that. Your business strategy of marketing to those political views supporting the convoy may very well pay off for you and I wish nothing but the best. I personally will be abstaining from your business because I believe the approach is reckless. Like you, I have my own views on what this demonstration is about and I find it reckless and selfish and will choose not to be a customer to businesses who openly promotes and supports that reckless and selfish behaviour.
Thanks for connecting with the chat here. It is good to get your perspective. Personally, my concern is with the group you are trying to appeal to, but your business so your call. I really do respect that. Your business strategy of marketing to those political views supporting the convoy may very well pay off for you and I wish nothing but the best. I personally will be abstaining from your business because I believe the approach is reckless. Like you, I have my own views on what this demonstration is about and I find it reckless and selfish and will choose not to be a customer to businesses who openly promotes and supports that reckless and selfish behaviour.
About some things in life there simply is a right and wrong and no amount of turning the other cheek will resolve anything. I’m not ever going to be soft on them. If they chose a path of hurting others then they lose my patience.
The second someone decides Facebook memes are a better method to absorb medical advice than the consensus of medical professionals, they have lost my respect. Medical advice changes and adapts as more information becomes available.
If they want me to be respectful they have to stop being selfish. Nobody likes restrictions but I’m not going to start comparing temporary prudent measures to the Holocaust like these space cadets.
The whole fricken third world is unvaccinated. Africa? That’s Where omicron came from. India? That’s Where delta came from. Airports? That’s what brings these mutations in to Canada. Mutations don’t start here with the unvaccinated. It starts in the trash of 3rd wolrd countries that WE advanced Nations have not given them jack in terms of vaccines. So of course this is a hopeless war. We’re all getting covid again and again. It’s here to stay thanks to “Science” that brought us this plague.
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Thanks, for responding directly.
I understand why you would be concerned about lockdowns as it directly affects your business. However, being anti mandate is problematic since the unvaccinated are part of the reason why the government justifies the lockdowns. Lockdowns and mandates (and now oral antivirals) are the only tools the government has to slow the influx of patients to the ICUs. Without the mandates that pretty much leaves lockdowns as the only tool left.
Secondly, taking an anti mandate view would lead me to believe you are ok with your employees not being vaccinated, which I imagine is a huge problem for o lot of people, myself included. The mandates are all about who is vaccinated and who is not. Being anti mandate pretty much means you dont care who is vaccinated and who is not. It is a position in and of itself.
As a business you are free to support whatever causes you want. Just be aware you are not free from the consequences of publicly professing that support.
I have no idea how busy any of the spas are but I'm willing to bet they aren't packed and that the ladies working in them haven't had anything close to their regular income in the last two years. Go get that truck money ladies, I hope it helps.
From what I hear, this isn't really about truckers at all, as most truckers are already vaccinated. The convoy is mostly locals in pickups.
it was a bad idea and while I respect their addressing it here it seems the explanation only made matters worse.
I root for all mps and mpas so I hope this doesn’t hurt them after the convoy returns back to where the came from.
For the original question - terrible decision by Paradise/Angel's spa however you feel about the protests, it's going to deter people from seeing them in the future in exchange for a small short-term gain. That's a lesson Erin O'Toole is going to learn as well.
For the protest itself - I disagree with their views but there's nothing inherently wrong with coming here to express them IF they don't disrupt the city and IF the crazies are kept on a leash. Way too many people in town who think the attack on the capital building in DC last year was a great first step. We don't need that here.
For politics and sex work in general - I am tired of having people's politics thrown in my face. I wish both the self-righteous progressives and the rightwing halfwits would just keep it to themselves, but I guess that's not possible.
For the protest itself - I disagree with their views but there's nothing inherently wrong with coming here to express them IF they don't disrupt the city and IF the crazies are kept on a leash. Way too many people in town who think the attack on the capital building in DC last year was a great first step. We don't need that here.
For politics and sex work in general - I am tired of having people's politics thrown in my face. I wish both the self-righteous progressives and the rightwing halfwits would just keep it to themselves, but I guess that's not possible.
#1 How is it going to hurt them? You believe the regular clients are more vaxxed than those protesting? If you don’t know this then maybe you believe the regulars think the truckers are unvaxxed dirty sobs. Both ignorant views. Protesters appear to be anti MANDATE. In the end who gives a f because everyone is responsible for their own health. Otherwise why don’t you Karens ask for a clean bill of health before seeing an MA or SP? Karens’ logic is so full of holes, this pandemic will go on forever if you let the germophobes control life.
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