Police Suicide

[SkyRider]

These stories lack context. How big of a problem is suicide among the cops? Is it the Natives size, dentists, paramedics, soldiers? How does it rank in our society?

I heard that 2 (could be more?) members of our board committed suicide last year. I won't mention names out of respect for their privacy.

 

[explorerzip]

Sometimes people pick the wrong profession, do 2% of first responders kill themselves or less, some people aren't mentally equipped to deal with certain situations, others are. They should realize this early in their career and choose another profession.

How do you make changes, there's always gonna be car crashes, fires, deaths. You can't have all these people on sick leave with ptsd when the job calls for it, better training to weed out those unequipped for it perhaps?

And how do you train to kill someone realistically? You can only take training and simulation so far since it's not real and there are no consequences. People know when it's a simulation and when it's real life. Perhaps we should train police and military with live rounds and live human targets instead of paper targets?

PTSD has been around for a while so it's not as easy as better training.

 

[SkyRider]

And how do you train to kill someone realistically?

I think any police candidate who can kill without remorse would be screened out.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...culture-begins-with-who-gets-the-uniform.html

 

[IM469]

Don't be so ignorant.

Read the story, and then make your asinine comment about traffic violations. This constable and his colleagues were in very much danger because of an asshole who used a gun and his vehicle against them.

Read the whole post and don't be an asinine reactionary idiot. I was responding to the obviously exaggerated comment 90% of people police come in contact with are scumbags. If 90% of people police came were criminal psychopaths I doubt they would leave the station of I would leave the home. Or is the concept of 90% hard to fathom ?

BTW: Yes I read the article but it has f*ck all to do with my post.

 

[nottyboi]

The guy ran an officer down with his car, how was the shooting unjustified in your incredibly ignorant mind???

Police and military should be getting better treatment after these situations to stop these suicides.

I think it is pretty obvious to everone except you that the police cannot be relied upon to tell the truth in shootings. Geez... why would a police officer put himself in position to be hit in a roadblock unless they are an idiot?

 

[fuji]

I think it is pretty obvious to everone except you that the police cannot be relied upon to tell the truth in shootings. Geez... why would a police officer put himself in position to be hit in a roadblock unless they are an idiot?

So you have no reasons for calling it unjustified whatsoever, you simply lied. When called on your lie your fell back on this fuck the police nonsense.

 

[nottyboi]

So you have no reasons for calling it unjustified whatsoever, you simply lied. When called on your lie your fell back on this fuck the police nonsense.

There is no trustworthy reason to call it justified or unjustified because only one self serving point of view is delivered. Clearly the truth was eating up this guy to the point that he offed himself.

 

[explorerzip]

I think any police candidate who can kill without remorse would be screened out.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...culture-begins-with-who-gets-the-uniform.html

Obviously, anyone that has killed before and felt no remorse would not be allowed to become a police officer. I was referring to the fact that it is impossible to train to with the stress of killing another person. There's no way to simulate the emotional state after you've killed someone no matter how realistic the simulation is.

 

[nottyboi]

I think any police candidate who can kill without remorse would be screened out.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...culture-begins-with-who-gets-the-uniform.html

How did Forcillo end up a cop then?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Looks like he was a nice guy.
Still, maybe his career or job had nothing to do with him killing himself.

Some souls are just too sensitive to survive on the cruel landscape that is earth and maybe he would have killed himself if he ended up an electrician or bank manager or something else.
Then again I've heard that people from a military or police background have a suicide rate that is much higher than the general population.
So who knows.

 

[SkyRider]

For what it is worth. Here are some stats.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list...ions-with-the-highest-suicide-rates/?view=all

I still think that police take the most or almost the most abuse of any profession.

P.S. I think the suicide rate for suicide bombers is almost 100%.

 

[fuji]

There is no trustworthy reason to call it justified or unjustified because only one self serving point of view is delivered. Clearly the truth was eating up this guy to the point that he offed himself.

Just admit you lied.

 

[kugel1]

How did Forcillo end up a cop then?

Quite likely because he had never killed anyone before being hired. Any prognostication as to what his reaction might be upon killing someone would be an educated guess at best. The reaction to killing is only an anticedent to the actual act itself.

 

[shakenbake]

Read the whole post and don't be an asinine reactionary idiot. I was responding to the obviously exaggerated comment 90% of people police come in contact with are scumbags. If 90% of people police came were criminal psychopaths I doubt they would leave the station of I would leave the home. Or is the concept of 90% hard to fathom ?

BTW: Yes I read the article but it has f*ck all to do with my post.

Oops, you are right. I misunderstood your comment, and thought that you were belittling the actual incident where the police were in obvious danger. Yes, the 90 % is definitely exaggerated.

 

[Occasionally]

I think any police candidate who can kill without remorse would be screened out.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...culture-begins-with-who-gets-the-uniform.html

Excellent article.

IMO the article's focus on psychological traits should be the most important thing in hiring a cop. A person us getting a gun after all. And with a gun should have sound judgement and be able to communicate well. Things like physical training will come later. Someone can always be trained to be fit and fast, but I a person's temperament is pretty hard to change.

 

[shakenbake]

Looks like he was a nice guy.
Still, maybe his career or job had nothing to do with him killing himself.

Some souls are just too sensitive to survive on the cruel landscape that is earth and maybe he would have killed himself if he ended up an electrician or bank manager or something else.
Then again I've heard that people from a military or police background have a suicide rate that is much higher than the general population.
So who knows.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...ht-to-get-help-for-post-traumatic-stress.html

 

[K Douglas]

I read that case. The shoot was marginally justified at best, it sounded like gross incompetence led to the need to use deadly force. This office clearly had a conscience, and it ate him up. Maybe if the police came clean about what really happened he could have lived with it and moved on he clearly had come of the characteristics I would find desirable in police. I think when people like him start offing themselves it shows how deep the problems are in policing culture. RIP.

Probably one of the most ignorant, outlandish and foolish statements I have read on this forum. You never fail to outdo yourself. Congrats on being the forum's #1 parasite.

 

[nottyboi]

Just admit you lied.

no you tossed that word around as if you know what it means. but clearly you do not based on your track record.

 

[nottyboi]

Probably one of the most ignorant, outlandish and foolish statements I have read on this forum. You never fail to outdo yourself. Congrats on being the forum's #1 parasite.

Clearly you never read your own posts then.... looks like you don't even understand the meaning of the word parasite....

 

[fuji]

no you tossed that word around as if you know what it means. but clearly you do not based on your track record.

You made claims about whether the shooting was justified, claiming it wasn't. When challenged your only explanation for your claim was you never believe the police.