Police Suicide

[SkyRider]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2497510/p...h-for-man-who-fell-in-water-near-polson-pier/

So sad. R.I.P. I know some of us love to bash the police. Claim that everything they do is a violation of our rights. However, the job clearly takes its toll when 90% of the people they engage are scumbags.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Seems to stem from an earlier incident back in 2010. It was even a justified use of force (shooting someone who tried to run him over).

 

[IM469]

However, the job clearly takes its toll when 90% of the people they engage are scumbags.

Well there are ~250,000 tickets handed out for various traffic/vehicle violations so these must be the 90% scumbags police engage that you are writing about ? Doing 60 in a 40 ... what a dastardly scumbag ! Parking in loading zone ... I only hope they approach with their guns drawn ......

 

[shakenbake]

Well there are ~250,000 tickets handed out for various traffic/vehicle violations so these must be the 90% scumbags police engage that you are writing about ? Doing 60 in a 40 ... what a dastardly scumbag ! Parking in loading zone ... I only hope they approach with their guns drawn ......

Don't be so ignorant.

Read the story, and then make your asinine comment about traffic violations. This constable and his colleagues were in very much danger because of an asshole who used a gun and his vehicle against them.

 

[wazup]

That's what he signed up for, would he rather been run over and killed. The job description is to use lethal force if necessary. Did he kill himself because he took someones life or because he almost got killed?

 

[K Douglas]

That's what he signed up for, would he rather been run over and killed. The job description is to use lethal force if necessary. Did he kill himself because he took someones life or because he almost got killed?

He suffered from PTSD. Many cops go a whole career and never fire their gun. Clearly it shook him. And now he's paid the ultimate price. RIP and condolences to his family.

 

[shakenbake]

That's what he signed up for, would he rather been run over and killed. The job description is to use lethal force if necessary. Did he kill himself because he took someones life or because he almost got killed?

Put yourself in his shoes, witness ans experience what he experienced, and then come back to me with an answer.

 

[explorerzip]

Claim that everything they do is a violation of our rights. However, the job clearly takes its toll when 90% of the people they engage are scumbags.

Who claims that "everything they do is a violation of our rights?" The recent issues with the police are not everything or nothing as you put it, the issue is a lot more nuances than that. Leave your liberal leftie political crap out of this tragic loss of life. I do agree with you that all first-responders have to face some extreme stresses that are brushed off way too easily as just part of the job. Fact of the matter is that most of a first responder's job is very routine and they are suddenly put into life threatening situations. That will take a toll on you no matter how mentally strong you supposedly are.

 

[explorerzip]

That's what he signed up for, would he rather been run over and killed. The job description is to use lethal force if necessary. Did he kill himself because he took someones life or because he almost got killed?

I'd be much more concerned with a cop that had no emotional response to shooting another person. Such a cop is not human IMO. This is not just an issue of sucking it up. If you have any doubts, strap on a Kevlar vest and see how well you react you shoot and kill someone or someone else is trying to kill you. Human beings are robots and traumatic experience like this will affect you sooner or later.

 

[wazup]

Would you be traumatized if someone broke into your house and tried to kill you, but you ended up killing them, I doubt it. He killed someone who deserved it, save his sympathy for someone who deserves it. He wasn't cut out for the job, sad story but he had other issues perhaps?

 

[explorerzip]

Would you be traumatized if someone broke into your house and tried to kill you, but you ended up killing them, I doubt it. He killed someone who deserved it, save his sympathy for someone who deserves it. He wasn't cut out for the job, sad story but he had other issues perhaps?

I honestly don't know since I've never been put in that position and you likely haven't either. I might be traumatized if it was a family member, friend or even a random person even if they were trying to kill me? Outside of being a first-responder, few people are used to seeing traumatic scenes like a dead body and pools of blood in real life. I suppose television and media would desensitize some people, but you can't really know until it happens for real to you. So why speculate how the police officer felt when we have no idea at all. He most certainly had other issues including an apparent earlier incident. I don't think you can just look at one or two incidents to understand what was going on in this guy's head.

 

[nottyboi]

I read that case. The shoot was marginally justified at best, it sounded like gross incompetence led to the need to use deadly force. This office clearly had a conscience, and it ate him up. Maybe if the police came clean about what really happened he could have lived with it and moved on he clearly had come of the characteristics I would find desirable in police. I think when people like him start offing themselves it shows how deep the problems are in policing culture. RIP.

 

[SkyRider]

"One of the police officers who discovered Sharin’s body committed suicide, presumably unable to live with the sight of the dead child in his mind."

https://krazykillers.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/notorious-toronto-murders-sharin-morningstar-keenan/

 

[SkyRider]

The Irish Coppers.

http://irishamerica.com/2012/09/the-irish-coppers/

 

[fuji]

Would you be traumatized if someone broke into your house and tried to kill you, but you ended up killing them, I doubt it.

How many people have you killed, tough guy?

 

[fuji]

I read that case. The shoot was marginally justified at best, it sounded like gross incompetence led to the need to use deadly force. This office clearly had a conscience, and it ate him up. Maybe if the police came clean about what really happened he could have lived with it and moved on he clearly had come of the characteristics I would find desirable in police. I think when people like him start offing themselves it shows how deep the problems are in policing culture. RIP.

The guy ran an officer down with his car, how was the shooting unjustified in your incredibly ignorant mind???

Police and military should be getting better treatment after these situations to stop these suicides.

 

[wazup]

Sometimes people pick the wrong profession, do 2% of first responders kill themselves or less, some people aren't mentally equipped to deal with certain situations, others are. They should realize this early in their career and choose another profession.

How do you make changes, there's always gonna be car crashes, fires, deaths. You can't have all these people on sick leave with ptsd when the job calls for it, better training to weed out those unequipped for it perhaps?

 

[jcpro]

These stories lack context. How big of a problem is suicide among the cops? Is it the Natives size, dentists, paramedics, soldiers? How does it rank in our society?

 

[Aardvark154]

Would you be traumatized if someone broke into your house and tried to kill you, but you ended up killing them, I doubt it. He killed someone who deserved it, save his sympathy for someone who deserves it. He wasn't cut out for the job, sad story but he had other issues perhaps?

Absolutely most people in those situations do suffer from psychiatric trauma.

 

[Autumn-desilva]

So sad.... it's a difficult job probably one of the worst. When your trained to follow the law and keep the peace. But everyone breaks
Laws, whether it be traffic violations, drugs, j walking and more serious stuff. Plus they deal with situations 85% of people would NOT want to deal with. Plus the people you are supposed to protect think your racist and corrupted..... so sad....