Poilievre is compromised

boobtoucher

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Again, why would a Canadian citizen not do everything in their power to protect the interest of Canada, especially someone who has a significant level of political power.

Occams razor applies: He's compromised and he knows it. He wants to plead ignorance when the hammer finally comes down on him.


Garbage human being who has no business running the country.
 

richaceg

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Good luck on the election....You better hope it's Carney for liberals and you will have a good chance...
 

bazokajoe

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Again, why would a Canadian citizen not do everything in their power to protect the interest of Canada, especially someone who has a significant level of political power.

Occams razor applies: He's compromised and he knows it. He wants to plead ignorance when the hammer finally comes down on him.


Garbage human being who has no business running the country.
Why would he not do anything in their power?
Because legally he can't do anything.
 

boobtoucher

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Why would he not do anything in their power?
Because legally he can't do anything.
At least according to him, the guy who isn't doing anything.

" I won't read the report because it will muzzle me" - Jagmeet, Liz May and Blanchet have all read it and commented on it

"I won't take the special-boy briefing, because I can't do anything about it" - other parties, who have read it, are calling on PP to implement the changes in the report.

Dude is 100% compromised. He's a useful idiot leading us into our own Gupta scandal.
 

bazokajoe

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At least according to him, the guy who isn't doing anything.

" I won't read the report because it will muzzle me" - Jagmeet, Liz May and Blanchet have all read it and commented on it

"I won't take the special-boy briefing, because I can't do anything about it" - other parties, who have read it, are calling on PP to implement the changes in the report.

Dude is 100% compromised. He's a useful idiot leading us into our own Gupta scandal.
They may have read it but can't name names and can't comment on what happened or do anything about it.
All they say is yeah I've read it.
Trudeau stated at the inquiry that he was only briefed and never read the entire report.
So Trudeau isn't any better then.
 
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"[Poilievre] would be legally prevented from speaking with anyone other than legal counsel about the briefing and would be able to take action only as expressly authorized by the government, rendering him unable to effectively use any relevant information he received," spokesperson Sebastian Skamski said in a statement to CBC News.
No. what he's saying in that statement is that he can only act on the information within the constraints of the law. He would have to disallow some of his MPS from running again, and he doesn't want to.

Because he's compromised. By India. To act in India's interests ahead of Canada's interests.
 

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No. what he's saying in that statement is that he can only act on the information within the constraints of the law. He would have to disallow some of his MPS from running again, and he doesn't want to.

Because he's compromised. By India. To act in India's interests ahead of Canada's interests.
Fantastic, great news. Thanks PP to work with Modi and India.
 

Butler1000

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No. what he's saying in that statement is that he can only act on the information within the constraints of the law. He would have to disallow some of his MPS from running again, and he doesn't want to.

Because he's compromised. By India. To act in India's interests ahead of Canada's interests.
Now your desperation is getting ridiculous.

He is going to govern from the center. Implementing a few policies you don't like, and the nation will be just fine. It's not an existential crisis, just an election.
 

boobtoucher

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Now your desperation is getting ridiculous.

He is going to govern from the center. Implementing a few policies you don't like, and the nation will be just fine. It's not an existential crisis, just an election.
2018 called, they have a message:

 

bver_hunter

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Now your desperation is getting ridiculous.

He is going to govern from the center. Implementing a few policies you don't like, and the nation will be just fine. It's not an existential crisis, just an election.
Govern from the "Center" when he voted against Childcare, Dental Care for seniors and various other common sense bills?
But when he gets endorsed by this guy who recently did this:

 

Skoob

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No. what he's saying in that statement is that he can only act on the information within the constraints of the law. He would have to disallow some of his MPS from running again, and he doesn't want to.

Because he's compromised. By India. To act in India's interests ahead of Canada's interests.
Yeah sure...if Poilievre was the one in these pics you would be setting cars on fire if you were worried about someone being compromised by India.

 

Skoob

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Again, why would a Canadian citizen not do everything in their power to protect the interest of Canada, especially someone who has a significant level of political power.

Occams razor applies: He's compromised and he knows it. He wants to plead ignorance when the hammer finally comes down on him.


Garbage human being who has no business running the country.
Nah...he just doesn't want to get trapped into a muzzle situation and made that perfectly clear.

Now let's take a lookee-loo at evidence of someone being compromised by India...

Exhibit A:

 

Butler1000

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2018 called, they have a message:

He really hasn't said anything radical. Carbon tax gone? Seems that the Liberal Candidates are now touring that. Carney is all in on Conservative governance on the economy(or so he says).

Increased military. Yup, I would prefer better equipment and pay for those serving, don't you?

Banning puberty blockers for kids? Yup. There are two major studies happening right now in Canada abd England on Trans people. Time to actually let scientific method and not activist opinion come into play.

Pipelines? Yup, we are a natural resource based economy. And oil isn't going away. Nuclear? Yup, all in in that. This isn't 1979. New tech makes it much much safer, far less waste to manage, and we need lots of power.

Other than that, the usual bullshit about banning abortion, gay marriage etc just won't cut it this time.

So relax, it won't be bad, unless you let your emotions control you.
 

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Poilievre’s Trumpian Aversion to the Value of Intelligence


By Don Newman

January 30, 2025


Pierre Poilievre wants to remain in the dark. At least that’s what he’s doing by continuing to refuse the top-secret security clearance required to read classified government documents. His latest refusal came this week after the tabling of the Public Inquiry into Foreign Interference in Federal Electoral Processes and Democratic Institutions by Commissioner Justice Marie-Josee Hogue.

In realtive terms, Justice Hogue’s report is pretty tepid tea, particularly given that it was set up after the Parliamentary Committee on National Security and Intelligence had reported that some members of Parliament had colluded with agents of foreign countries. In her report, Justice Hogue said the dealings of some members of Parliament with people connected to foreign governments were “problematic” but that’s she found no “traitors” in Parliament.

CSIS — the Canadian Intelligence Security Service — has offered confidential briefings on the Hogue report to party leaders who hold “top secret” security clearances. The security clearance process for top-secret level involves a background check by the RCMP, including the verification of all credentials, interviews with personal and professional character references, a criminal record check, a foreign travel assessment and a CSIS security assessment.

All the party leaders but Poilievre have obtained the security clearances and have had security briefings in the past. But the Conservative leader has refused to get the top secret clearance required on the grounds that being privy to information that way would restrict what he could say about what he had been told.

That is true. He would be somewhat restricted. But that hasn’t bothered or stopped Bloc Québécois leader Yves-Francois Blanchet, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh or Green Party Leader Elizabeth May from getting a top-secret clearance, getting briefed and continuing to actively criticize the government in the House of Commons and elsewhere.

What it appears to mean is that Poilievre isn’t planning any changes in his political style or messaging as the country faces a general election campaign that has informally been underway since Liberal by-election losses last summer and that could formally begin as early as next month.

How Poilievre would handle this question if elected prime minister remains to be seen, but he shares his aversion to intelligence briefings with Donald Trump.
Whether in the House of Commons or in speeches around the country, the Conservative leader employs a slashing, accusative approach castigating his opponent — until now Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — that is built around perceived public grievances but is not always closely associated with fact.

How Poilievre would handle this question if elected prime minister remains to be seen, but he shares his aversion to intelligence briefings with Donald Trump, who was famously dismissive of the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) during his first term, and who refused briefings during the 2024 presidential campaign — on grounds that amount to a variation of Poilievre’s stated concern about how his knowledge could redound politically — so that he could not be accused of leaking information. Trump reportedly began acquiescing to the briefings in November.

Poilievre’s unwillingness to be constrained by fact was honed when he was a parliamentary secretary and then junior minister in the last Conservative government of Stephen Harper. It fell to him to defend the Conservative Party in the House during the “in and out scandal,” a plan the Conservatives used in the 2006 election to transfer money from the Party’s central headquarters to local riding associations, ostensibly to be spent on local campaigns.

Instead, the local associations immediately transferred the money back to central headquarters, where the party used it for other campaign spending. The scheme was uncovered after many of the riding associations that transferred the money back to national headquarters then applied to Election Canada for rebates for election expenses they had not incurred. As the scandal ran its course, four people, two of them Conservative senators, were charged. After plea bargaining and negotiations, those charges were dropped, the Conservative Party was fined $52, 000 by Elections Canada and reimbursed the agency more than $200, 000 dollars.

During that period, it was often Poilievre who was on his feet defending the Harper government. Most of the time, he skirted the facts surrounding the scandal and instead attacked the Opposition parties who were questioning the government. It was quite effective.

Since the Conservative defeat in 2015, first as Finance critic and for the past two-plus years as party leader, he has transferred that same technique to Opposition in the House of Commons.

Now, as the election approaches and he has again rejected a secret security clearance, Poilievre presumably plans to go on as he has; in the dark and unfettered by fact.

Policy Columnist Don Newman is an Officer of the Order of Canada, and a lifetime member and a Past President of the Canadian Parliamentary Press Gallery.



Poilievre is sketchy af.
 

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Poilievre’s Trumpian Aversion to the Value of Intelligence


By Don Newman

January 30, 2025


Pierre Poilievre wants to remain in the dark. At least that’s what he’s doing by continuing to refuse the top-secret security clearance required to read classified government documents. His latest refusal came this week after the tabling of the Public Inquiry into Foreign Interference in Federal Electoral Processes and Democratic Institutions by Commissioner Justice Marie-Josee Hogue.

In realtive terms, Justice Hogue’s report is pretty tepid tea, particularly given that it was set up after the Parliamentary Committee on National Security and Intelligence had reported that some members of Parliament had colluded with agents of foreign countries. In her report, Justice Hogue said the dealings of some members of Parliament with people connected to foreign governments were “problematic” but that’s she found no “traitors” in Parliament.

CSIS — the Canadian Intelligence Security Service — has offered confidential briefings on the Hogue report to party leaders who hold “top secret” security clearances. The security clearance process for top-secret level involves a background check by the RCMP, including the verification of all credentials, interviews with personal and professional character references, a criminal record check, a foreign travel assessment and a CSIS security assessment.

All the party leaders but Poilievre have obtained the security clearances and have had security briefings in the past. But the Conservative leader has refused to get the top secret clearance required on the grounds that being privy to information that way would restrict what he could say about what he had been told.

That is true. He would be somewhat restricted. But that hasn’t bothered or stopped Bloc Québécois leader Yves-Francois Blanchet, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh or Green Party Leader Elizabeth May from getting a top-secret clearance, getting briefed and continuing to actively criticize the government in the House of Commons and elsewhere.

What it appears to mean is that Poilievre isn’t planning any changes in his political style or messaging as the country faces a general election campaign that has informally been underway since Liberal by-election losses last summer and that could formally begin as early as next month.


Whether in the House of Commons or in speeches around the country, the Conservative leader employs a slashing, accusative approach castigating his opponent — until now Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — that is built around perceived public grievances but is not always closely associated with fact.

How Poilievre would handle this question if elected prime minister remains to be seen, but he shares his aversion to intelligence briefings with Donald Trump, who was famously dismissive of the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) during his first term, and who refused briefings during the 2024 presidential campaign — on grounds that amount to a variation of Poilievre’s stated concern about how his knowledge could redound politically — so that he could not be accused of leaking information. Trump reportedly began acquiescing to the briefings in November.

Poilievre’s unwillingness to be constrained by fact was honed when he was a parliamentary secretary and then junior minister in the last Conservative government of Stephen Harper. It fell to him to defend the Conservative Party in the House during the “in and out scandal,” a plan the Conservatives used in the 2006 election to transfer money from the Party’s central headquarters to local riding associations, ostensibly to be spent on local campaigns.

Instead, the local associations immediately transferred the money back to central headquarters, where the party used it for other campaign spending. The scheme was uncovered after many of the riding associations that transferred the money back to national headquarters then applied to Election Canada for rebates for election expenses they had not incurred. As the scandal ran its course, four people, two of them Conservative senators, were charged. After plea bargaining and negotiations, those charges were dropped, the Conservative Party was fined $52, 000 by Elections Canada and reimbursed the agency more than $200, 000 dollars.

During that period, it was often Poilievre who was on his feet defending the Harper government. Most of the time, he skirted the facts surrounding the scandal and instead attacked the Opposition parties who were questioning the government. It was quite effective.

Since the Conservative defeat in 2015, first as Finance critic and for the past two-plus years as party leader, he has transferred that same technique to Opposition in the House of Commons.

Now, as the election approaches and he has again rejected a secret security clearance, Poilievre presumably plans to go on as he has; in the dark and unfettered by fact.

Policy Columnist Don Newman is an Officer of the Order of Canada, and a lifetime member and a Past President of the Canadian Parliamentary Press Gallery.



Poilievre is sketchy af.
is this one of those "compare any conservative you don't like to (insert name here)"?

Can you let us know when the inevitable Hitler reference will happen?
 

Knuckle Ball

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is this one of those "compare any conservative you don't like to (insert name here)"?
Try reading the article and let us know your thoughts.

Can you let us know when the inevitable Hitler reference will happen?
I believe they already started after PP began hanging out with the white nationalists at the Freedumb Convoy and Diagolon.
 
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