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Poilievre has called for a non-confidence vote

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Typical team lefty village idiot delections and gibberish.

.Happens when drunk on koolaid, spin and gibberish and wee little leaguer hard ons of anger and embarrassment.
( see post above and 278)

Have you taken the time to separate fact from fiction. Partisan spin and Koolaid, noise from signal. Read it yourself? And unbiased experts?

Nope
Because it too much, too hard and filled with gibberish you don’t grasp. Just like the Drummond Commission you guys haven’t read or absorbed ..

So like the lemmings you are, fast to jump off the cliff into the SM bandwagon filled with Koolaid and spin of present day politics on Twit er and MSM who are in the business of trying hard to keep their revenues….and budgets balanced. Which these days is getting very hard. Whether R or L.

But on that topic “where are you”. The center of the universe, that’s filled with Liberal voters. So with respect to Koolaid and Spin. Which side sees the greatest volume of spin Koolaid. (twit er is especially bad, they have algorithms to feed you what you like and your biased ) just like advertising “where are you” or what brand of $1 beer you like.

Nor do lemmings read anything else, or from anywhere else. Like outside the heavily drunk on spin Koolaid and self centered gta. That MSM and twit er need for their revenues.

1) spending might be the largest because 9b more has been added. From last years and the previous 20 years. But you might want to think of the train wreck he inherited and experts you won’t listen to.

2) what happen when you expect to receive “204b in revenue in 2023, but only receive 194b”?


3) do you know what the 9b was spent on? Was it spent on good debt or bad debt? Say like infrastructure to create jobs, or LTCs?

Keep swimming in Koolaid Layman that’s doesn’t grasp basics of budgets….or politics…. Or even words like Endoresment, projections, allocations

The thread is also about PP rolling right over you, JT Ottawa and Canada like semi trucks. Nor can you even grasp the basics of that either.

All that up there are just facts. Something I tend to work with and stick with. If you don’t like that either. Deal with it. That’s your problem……dumb red neck lemming.
Dear me, what a load of drivel spewed from your nostrils. Keep on taking your medications, and like I expected you are trying to justify DOFO's huge deficit in that budget of his. We know that the Health and Education will be left behind while he builds that useless Highway 413 of his!!

 
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Your usual gibberish, and once again you cannot accept the real facts. Obviously, you go on with your senseless and meaningless yara, yara, Yara.
You adore the FreeDumb Truckers who held Ottawa to hostage for around a month, blocked the supply chains between Canada and our biggest Trade partner.
I know more than you will ever do so, especially with your far right brainwashed train of thoughts!!
Keep on going on and on with your 100% gibberish.
Your buddy Ford has just tabled a budget of record spending and a huge $10 Billion deficit. Of course he will get a pass from the likes of you!!

Ford government tables $214.5B spending budget, largest in Ontario history, as deficit grows to $9.8B:

I guess like lemmings that dive off cliff face first into hard bottoms. Your memory is mush. Despite the fact that’s already proven.

You seem to have forgotten I’m the only person I’ve ever seen point out Ontario was downgraded for reducing revenue when he came into power. Including specifically you……

.Nor do you have the brain capacity to read any number of threads where I’ve mentioned continued deficits and spending spending spending. Or Ford listening to whines from the 905 about tolls on the 412/418

Clueless little lemming
 
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I guess like lemmings that dive off cliff face first into hard bottoms. Your memory is mush. Despite the fact that’s already proven.

You seem to have forgotten I’m the only person I’ve ever seen point out Ontario was downgraded for reducing revenue when he came into power. Including specifically you……

.Nor do you have the brain capacity to read any number of threads where I’ve mentioned continued deficits and spending spending spending. Or Ford listening to whines from the 905 about tolls on the 412/418

Clueless little lemming
So, it is okay for DOFO to spend, spend, spend on the Hwy 413 and other stuff that does not address the Health or Education Issues? Then Harper's spending was blamed by You on the Liberals. You are hilarious!! Just take your medications for your Dementia and Anger Management. Period!!
 
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So, it is okay for DOFO to spend, spend, spend on the Hwy 413 and other stuff that does not address the Health or Education Issues? Then Harper's spending was blamed by You on the Liberals. You are hilarious!! Just take your medications for your Dementia and Anger Management. Period!!
what exactly are you struggling with again beaver.

if I’m criticizing all levels of government for debt levels. Debt/gdp etc. and if I’m pointing out it’s the electorate that’s ultimately to blame. Because all politicians need votes and there are no participation ribbons for second place.

And if I have specifically criticized him. For reducing revenues when we need revenue. Being too afraid to put road tolls on various roads because those votes in the 416/905 matter more.

If I’m constantly pointing out the additional burdens in spending and healthcare boomers are going to create.

If I’m constantly linking experts that says we have too much debt, need to reign in spending and stop using deficits and not enough growth in gdp and revenue

In what world of fantasy, partisan blinders, following the herd of lemmings, hard ons of immature anger/embarassment, and utter cluelessness are you in.

What makes you think I’m ok with it?
 
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Pee Pee's Corporate Lobbyist Lies Exposed:

Pierre Poilievre: “My experience with corporate lobbyists in Ottawa is that they are utterly useless.”

Text: Since 2022, Pierre Poilievre has hosted more than 100 corporate lobbyists at closed-door fundraising events.

Poilievre: “The corporate lobbyists in Ottawa are focused on getting lunches with ministers at the Rideau Club.”

Text: They’re also focussed on getting dinners with Poilievre at every other private club:

Toronto Club, January, 2023.

Arlington Estates, April, 2023.

Terminal City Club, March, 2023.

Royal Glenora Club, April, 2023.

National Club, September, 2023.

Poilievre: “When I’m prime Minister my obsession—my daily obsession—will be about what is good for the working class people of this country.”

Text: Do these fundraising spots look working class to you?


Not to forget that on The Day of The No Confidence Vote, he was doing this:

WATCH: PIERRE POILIEVRE ABSENT FOR VOTE ON HIS MOTION OF NONE-CONFIDENCE AS HE HOBNOBS WITH TORONTO BAY ST. ELITES AT $1725/PERSON FUNDRAISER

 
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Pee Pee blasts the Expert Economists and instead believes in fanning the Flames from the Conspiracy Theorists:

Conservatives blast pro-carbon price economists as 'so-called experts'
OTTAWA — Conservatives won't be taking advice from "so-called experts" when it comes to carbon pricing, the party said in a statement Wednesday after more than 200 economists signed an open letter challenging leader Pierre Poilievre's stance.

Conservatives won't be taking advice from "so-called experts" when it comes to carbon pricing, the party said in a statement Wednesday after more than 200 economists signed an open letter challenging leader Pierre Poilievre's stance.

Instead, the party is pledging to listen to the "common sense of the common people."

"Common sense Conservatives will listen the common sense of the common people, not Justin Trudeau's so-called 'experts,'" Sebastian Skamski, a spokesperson for Poilievre, said in a statement Wednesday.

The comments come after economists associated with universities across Canada took aim at common claims in the heated debate over the Liberal's carbon price policy.

The economists pushed back on assertions the carbon price has driven up the cost of living, and called out opponents for failing to pitch a less costly alternative to reduce emissions.

"And they certainly aren't offering any alternatives that would reduce emissions at the same low cost as carbon pricing," read the open letter, which had garnered 213 signatures as of Wednesday afternoon.

The Opposition Conservatives have been almost singularly focused on abolishing the carbon price in the lead-up to the scheduled increase to the levy — from $65 to $80 per tonne — on April 1.


In response to the letter, Tories say "experts" are living comfortably while forcing a 23 per cent carbon tax hike on Canadians already struggling with affordability.

Poilievre has hosted massive rallies across the country dedicated to his "axe the tax" and, more recently, "spike the hike" messages.

The Conservatives will "not stop fighting" until Trudeau and NDP and Liberal MPs "spike the hike for all Canadians," Skamski said in a statement.

He did not respond to a request for an interview.

The debate over the policy reached a fever pitch last week as several premiers joined the Conservatives' call to roll back the planned increase to the carbon levy.


Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe questioned the credibility of the economists who signed the letter Wednesday and dismissed their assertion that the carbon price was the least costly option.

"It's not the least costly way in Saskatchewan," the premier said during testimony at the House of Commons operations committee.

He pointed out that some of the economists who signed the letter were appointed by the Liberal government to the Ecofiscal Commission in 2016.

McGill University's Chris Ragan, the commission's former chair and a former special adviser to the governor of the Bank of Canada, was heavily involved in drafting the letter.

He joined the body in 2016, after Trudeau was elected.

But the commission was an independent group of economists established in 2014, when Stephen Harper was prime minister.

The group's advisory board was made up of people from all political stripes, including former Progressive Conservative Jean Charest.

Other members included former Liberal prime minister Paul Martin and former Alberta Progressive Conservative member of the legislative assembly Jim Dinning.

In the letter, economists said they welcomed a healthy debate on the carbon-price policy, but urged that "it should be based on sound evidence and facts."

 

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Pee Pee blasts the Expert Economists and instead believes in fanning the Flames from the Conspiracy Theorists:

Conservatives blast pro-carbon price economists as 'so-called experts'
OTTAWA — Conservatives won't be taking advice from "so-called experts" when it comes to carbon pricing, the party said in a statement Wednesday after more than 200 economists signed an open letter challenging leader Pierre Poilievre's stance.

Conservatives won't be taking advice from "so-called experts" when it comes to carbon pricing, the party said in a statement Wednesday after more than 200 economists signed an open letter challenging leader Pierre Poilievre's stance.

Instead, the party is pledging to listen to the "common sense of the common people."

"Common sense Conservatives will listen the common sense of the common people, not Justin Trudeau's so-called 'experts,'" Sebastian Skamski, a spokesperson for Poilievre, said in a statement Wednesday.

The comments come after economists associated with universities across Canada took aim at common claims in the heated debate over the Liberal's carbon price policy.

The economists pushed back on assertions the carbon price has driven up the cost of living, and called out opponents for failing to pitch a less costly alternative to reduce emissions.

"And they certainly aren't offering any alternatives that would reduce emissions at the same low cost as carbon pricing," read the open letter, which had garnered 213 signatures as of Wednesday afternoon.

The Opposition Conservatives have been almost singularly focused on abolishing the carbon price in the lead-up to the scheduled increase to the levy — from $65 to $80 per tonne — on April 1.


In response to the letter, Tories say "experts" are living comfortably while forcing a 23 per cent carbon tax hike on Canadians already struggling with affordability.

Poilievre has hosted massive rallies across the country dedicated to his "axe the tax" and, more recently, "spike the hike" messages.

The Conservatives will "not stop fighting" until Trudeau and NDP and Liberal MPs "spike the hike for all Canadians," Skamski said in a statement.

He did not respond to a request for an interview.

The debate over the policy reached a fever pitch last week as several premiers joined the Conservatives' call to roll back the planned increase to the carbon levy.


Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe questioned the credibility of the economists who signed the letter Wednesday and dismissed their assertion that the carbon price was the least costly option.

"It's not the least costly way in Saskatchewan," the premier said during testimony at the House of Commons operations committee.

He pointed out that some of the economists who signed the letter were appointed by the Liberal government to the Ecofiscal Commission in 2016.

McGill University's Chris Ragan, the commission's former chair and a former special adviser to the governor of the Bank of Canada, was heavily involved in drafting the letter.

He joined the body in 2016, after Trudeau was elected.

But the commission was an independent group of economists established in 2014, when Stephen Harper was prime minister.

The group's advisory board was made up of people from all political stripes, including former Progressive Conservative Jean Charest.

Other members included former Liberal prime minister Paul Martin and former Alberta Progressive Conservative member of the legislative assembly Jim Dinning.

In the letter, economists said they welcomed a healthy debate on the carbon-price policy, but urged that "it should be based on sound evidence and facts."

lol. “Healthy” debate. Have you watched the house or this forum lately?

listened to experts?
Pushed for roads tolls which are
A) fairer
B) not a blanket tax
C) no messy rebate
D) recommend by experts
E) tried by Tory but he caved due to squeaky wheels
F) Ford caved too
????
 

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what exactly are you struggling with again beaver.

if I’m criticizing all levels of government for debt levels. Debt/gdp etc. and if I’m pointing out it’s the electorate that’s ultimately to blame. Because all politicians need votes and there are no participation ribbons for second place.

And if I have specifically criticized him. For reducing revenues when we need revenue. Being too afraid to put road tolls on various roads because those votes in the 416/905 matter more.

If I’m constantly pointing out the additional burdens in spending and healthcare boomers are going to create.

If I’m constantly linking experts that says we have too much debt, need to reign in spending and stop using deficits and not enough growth in gdp and revenue

In what world of fantasy, partisan blinders, following the herd of lemmings, hard ons of immature anger/embarassment, and utter cluelessness are you in.

What makes you think I’m ok with it?
DoFo did the polar opposite of the Drummond report recommendations yet you back him.
Why?
 

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lol. “Healthy” debate. Have you watched the house or this forum lately?

listened to experts?
Pushed for roads tolls which are
A) fairer
B) not a blanket tax
C) no messy rebate
D) recommend by experts
E) tried by Tory but he caved due to squeaky wheels
F) Ford caved too
????
Once again what are you waffling about? Totally irrelevant to the article I posted!!
The Economists include those appointed during the Harper era and are of all political stripes.
In other words Pee Pee is playing the Trump card....ROTFLMAO!!
 

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Once again what are you waffling about? Totally irrelevant to the article I posted!!
The Economists include those appointed during the Harper era and are of all political stripes.
In other words Pee Pee is playing the Trump card....ROTFLMAO!!
deflecting and at the same time. Perfect example illustrating why it has everything to do with the article. You just aren’t smart enough to see why, and make the connection.

/predicts about 40 post, and me having you walk you through it step by step.
 

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deflecting and at the same time. Perfect example illustrating why it has everything to do with the article. You just aren’t smart enough to see why, and make the connection.

/predicts about 40 post, and me having you walk you through it step by step.
When you run out of ideas then you resort to the "deflecting" nonsense!!

No one is interested in your step by step childish rants!!
 
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