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Poilievre backs banning trans women from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

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Question: Who will be the first tran in the PWHL?

Question 2: How will biological female players feel about that?
 

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If you are in Yorkdale, near the theaters and want to use the public washroom, it is a gender-neutral washroom. If you are in many of the clubs and newer bars in downtown Toronto, you will have to use a gender-neutral washroom. This is not because of Justin or Doug or Olivia no, it is the choice of the establishment you are in has made so tell me, what would you do? Hold it because of your principles and imagine a tranny walking in and washing their hands beside you or PEE PEE away and fuck your principles? LOL
I would never set foot in the place. Pretty simple solution.
 

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It requires physical strength, but a well trained woman (and she would be for these sports), can and will perform on par with a man. Infact, we have female fighter jet pilots who go through higher G-forces and do just as well as men. Infact, there have been studies on this topic.



So are you saying you are not okay with a trans woman whipping out HER dick in front of your teenage daughter, but you are A-okay with a trans-woman whipping out HER dick, in front of your teenage son? If you say that trans-women should get their own bathrooms, then are you okay with grown ass men who are known to commit the majority of sexual assault crimes, whipping out their dick in front of your teenage son? See how your outrage doesn't make sense?

The thing is, normal people - which is the majority of people - do not whip out their dicks in front of any body. They go in the booth, and do their business and get out.
Don't put words in my mouth. You know exactly what I am saying.
 

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It requires physical strength, but a well trained woman (and she would be for these sports), can and will perform on par with a man. Infact, we have female fighter jet pilots who go through higher G-forces and do just as well as men. Infact, there have been studies on this topic.



So are you saying you are not okay with a trans woman whipping out HER dick in front of your teenage daughter, but you are A-okay with a trans-woman whipping out HER dick, in front of your teenage son? If you say that trans-women should get their own bathrooms, then are you okay with grown ass men who are known to commit the majority of sexual assault crimes, whipping out their dick in front of your teenage son? See how your outrage doesn't make sense?

The thing is, normal people - which is the majority of people - do not whip out their dicks in front of any body. They go in the booth, and do their business and get out.
So why haven't any women succeeded in F1? I'll wait for your answer.
 

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I would never set foot in the place. Pretty simple solution.
Just because in the past it might have been used by a person with vagina? I’m trying to understand the logic
 

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It requires physical strength, but a well trained woman (and she would be for these sports), can and will perform on par with a man. Infact, we have female fighter jet pilots who go through higher G-forces and do just as well as men. Infact, there have been studies on this topic.

No, When it comes to sports and competition that requires strength, agility and endurance, male and female are not equal...you don't even need "studies" to prove it.... there are no shortcuts to "level the playing field" in sports....biological males will dominate female sports...period. there is no amount of study will debunk that... there maybe one or 2 women that can compete in male sports, but to say they will dominate? no they won't...Serena williams don't even think he would rank top 100 in male rankings and she's the GOAT female tennis player...can a woman do good in physical sports among men? they can sure....will they dominate? again...NO...A man, will dominate a female sports that requires physical attributes... Heck Trevor Ariza (NBA) would be WNBA MVP for the next 5 seasons if they let him play in WNBA....and he's not even all star material....
Here a regular "lady" dominating her "peers"...
 
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No, When it comes to sports and competition that requires strength, agility and endurance, male and female are not equal...you don't even need "studies" to prove it.... there are no shortcuts to "level the playing field" in sports....biological males will dominate female sports...period. there is no amount of study will debunk that... there maybe one or 2 women that can compete in male sports, but to say they will dominate? no they won't...Serena williams don't even think he would rank top 100 in male rankings and she's the GOAT female tennis player...can a woman do good in physical sports among men? they can sure....will they dominate? again...NO...A man, will dominate a female sports that requires physical attributes... Heck Trevor Ariza (NBA) would be WNBA MVP for the next 5 seasons if they let him play in WNBA....and he's not even all star material....
Here a regular "lady" dominating her "peers"...
Serena Williams wouldn't even dominate women's sport if she wasn't taking performance enhancing drugs that were supposedly an exemption because of her health condition aka legal cheating
 

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Serena Williams wouldn't even dominate women's sport if she wasn't taking performance enhancing drugs that were supposedly an exemption because of her health condition aka legal cheating
and Serena Williams with 5000 mg of steroids would still not get into top 10 male rankings...
 
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Depends on the sport. What type of strength or endurance do you need? So if you are talking soccer, tennis or MMA, then you are correct, men and women cannot play equally. If it is F1, they can. Blanket statements are idiotic.
So tell me when was the last time a female champion dominated F1? It isn't a blanket statement...it's a fact...sadly you try to avoid the real topic...male and female aren't equal when competition requires physical attributes....Chess would be a possibility but even that male dominates....
 

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That is the second question you should ask. The first question is - Tell me the last time a female F1 driver was treated the same as a male F1 driver?
So you're saying F1 is mysoginists?
 

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Oh very much. It is a VERY male dominated sport. Forget drivers, how many females do you see in the pit crews? Very few to none. It is changing though, especially in the factory where there are a lot more women in engineering, software and design.
It's like saying because there's not a lot of bricklayers are women it's a mysoginistic trade...pit drivers require a lot of heavy lifting, it requires speed, how many women do you see in the NBA, NFL? Just because you don't see women in the environment all of a sudden it's mysoginistic....that's dumb...
 
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Pit crews don't require a lot of heavy lifting, as they have machinery to do it. Women work in factories, in assembly lines. Women work in mines. Women work as combat soldiers in the military. So they can work as pit crew, and if they don't it points to the male dominated culture in F1.

And NBA and NFL are physical sports where men and women cannot compete equally, so it isn't a relevant comparison. That is why when we do see women in the NBA, we see them in the WNBA. Such a separation is not required for F1.
yes it does...sure women work in factories, assembly lines, women work in mines, work in the army....you know the ratio? between men : women in these line of work? it's Male dominated...just like education nursing cosmetics are female dominated....hey, if you don't get it you don't get it...don't sweat on it...
 

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It's like saying because there's not a lot of bricklayers are women it's a mysoginistic trade...pit drivers require a lot of heavy lifting, it requires speed, how many women do you see in the NBA, NFL? Just because you don't see women in the environment all of a sudden it's mysoginistic....that's dumb...
It's mysoginistic to believe that only a biological women can bare children.
 

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It depends.

Is it a contact sport like MMA, or one that requires feats of physical strength? Then makes sense to separate. Is it something like Formula 1, or Chess where physical strength does not matter? Then men and women can compete together.

Sorry you are once again factually incorrect..The fitness and strength requirements for Formula One driving exceed what Women are capable of doing to be competitive.
 
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richaceg

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Yeah, so we are not proposing pulling women off the street and putting them in an F1 car. We are talking about providing equal opportunities for women, so those who succeed, succeed. Those who don't, don't. Currently equal opportunities do not exist, and that was the purpose of the study I posted. And hey, no sweat. I know being dull, uninformed and unintelligent is par for the course for you, and fully expected when I engage in convos with you.
Yeah, we are not pulling women off the streets but how many do you think are involved in auto mechanic that are females? equal opportunity is right...and F1 hires the best of the best, that trade is dominated by male and pit stop requires speed and precision....not just for having a penis and vagina...for an application of 100 people trying to get into F1, how many do you think are females? You are basically asking for these firms to hire to fill a quota...
 

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Your assertion is based on an untrained man putting himself through F1 training where he isn't even talking about women? Meanwhile, I posted a study above, that states that when trained, there is nothing physical or psychological that prevents women from competing equally. I will take the word of the actual experts.
You missed the point of that study...."benchmark" Any women who would exel in the practice would achieve the benchmark with great training. Just like a women could pass the Army training...will it be somewhere, a woman could dominate? no it won't...F1 isn't just about sitting and stirring a racing car....reaction time, endurance, muscle memory etc etc...and yeah, women aren't ruled out to join the racing game...ask Danica...
 

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Yeah, we are not pulling women off the streets but how many do you think are involved in auto mechanic that are females? equal opportunity is right...and F1 hires the best of the best, that trade is dominated by male and pit stop requires speed and precision....not just for having a penis and vagina...for an application of 100 people trying to get into F1, how many do you think are females? You are basically asking for these firms to hire to fill a quota...
Even more interesting question is why women are playing in separate category in chess. Presumably, brains should be the same. I recall an explanation that a lot more boys are striving to be good at chess wish results in a bigger pool of capable male chess players which in turn results in a situation where best male players are so much better than females that females don’t even play with them to keep it fair.
 

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They dont have to "dominate" anything. We are not talking about enabling female domination in F1. We are talking about providing equal opportunities. I know more about F1 and the related engineering than you do, so I know it is not just about steering a car. It is more about building women up from the initial stages of karting. Encouraging them, providing appropriate training, cultivating a welcoming atmosphere, providing sponsorships etc., that will ultimately help them succeed.
What are you even talking about dude...you are solely dwelling on F1 to win an argument you are clearly losing....LOL....biological male shouldn't be competing in women's sports and women won't be able to compete in men's sports....even Danica Patrick, Serena Williams debunk this....nobody is saying we don't encourage women to compete in sports, get sponsorships....it's a defeating purpose to compete in male dominated sports vs. Male....they won't get recognition if they are losing, they won't get sponsors....and you support biological males to compete in their sports?
 
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