so the only difference is that the SP will have done nothing illegal?
the john has committed a crime under the current law and will have under C36 so what changes from the johns point of view?
please explain it to me
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so the only difference is that the SP will have done nothing illegal?
the john has committed a crime under the current law and will have under C36 so what changes from the johns point of view?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/13/louis-vuitton-condoms_n_1145902.htmlat 0:40 in that video is says it's 68 bucks... "and that's only for one". It is kinda funny ... either way I like the brands I currently use
For your reading pleasure... the video is not good, it just loops with little details
Or your offering to play scrabble for an hour. The point is This bill isnt going to change anything, this business has been around since the dawn of man and will continue. Whatever laws the make there will always be a way around them. LE has only so much time to spend on anything and this will not be a priority as long as there are no complaintsstop stressing ... I'm giving away free sex with the purchase of every condom... a steal at $280 bucks each
ok ok
i have not been paying attention
so i looked it up
C36 bill criminalizes the buying of sex The penalties include jail time – up to five years in some cases – and minimum cash fines that go up after a first offence.
The bill doesn’t say what is a sex service , meaning it would likely be up to a court to decide where the line was drawn. A government legal brief, submitted to the committee as it considered the bill, says the courts have found lap-dancing and masturbation in a massage parlour count as a "sexual service" or prostitution, but not stripping or the production of pornograph
Anyone who “receives a financial or other material benefit, knowing that it is obtained by or derived directly or indirectly” from the sale of a “sexual service,” faces up to 10 years in prison. This excludes those who have “a legitimate living arrangement” with a sex worker, those who receives the benefit “as a result of a legal or moral obligation” of the sex worker, those who sell the sex worker a “service or good” on the same terms to the general public, and those who offer a private service to sex workers but do so for a fee “proportionate” to the service and so long as they do not “counsel or encourage” sex work. Does this mean she cannot hire a driver???
Advertisement is a key plank of the bill, which makes it a crime to “knowingly advertise an offer to provide sexual services for consideration,” or money. This could potentially include newspapers, such as weekly publications that include personal ads from sex workers, or websites that publish similar ads.
(goodby terb). Oddly, it is not a crime for the SP to advertise
It is now working its way through the Senate. Canada’s current laws, struck down by the Court, officially expire in December, and the government has pledged to pass Bill C-36 by then.
now i know as much as Miss Jessica Lee, so there
Direct Deposit - Thats the way to go, no trail. and you can do it from your cell phone.
not sure how the courts will interpret such loopholesyou're all caught up now!
If the driver charges another person the same fee they charge a sex worker, and the fee is proportionate to the service, it's perfectly legal. They may not exploit, counsel, or encourage her to do sex work.
Regarding advertising, I'm sure you will see people use loopholes on boards like terb, ie advertising for companionship and escorts instead of the explicit advertising we see today. Not sure what newspapers will do.
keep smiling and sign the petitions smarty pants
i, for one, would not want to challenge a police charge
maybe terb has got the $$$$$$ to do so
if i am a decent guy desiring to have my simple natural needs met
perhaps i am an invalid ,or whatever, in need of simple human touch???!!!!
this makes me a criminal ????!!!!
what next???
illegal to eat food or breath or drink water???!!!
fuck you Harper and your Taliban regime !!!!!!!!
As frustrating as it may be that clients aren't keeping abreast of c36, it's downright stupefying that some of the owners of major spas and agencies are still oblivious to the train coming down the tracks.
Being really up-to-date means following the court decisions that define and clarify all those bits they left fuzzy or undefined in the law itself. Accordingly: masturbation is a sex act—which would be true wherever it happened—and even a sexual service if provided by another person, but it is only an "act of prostitution" if the Crown has proved that there was a financial transaction to secure that service specifically. IF it 'just happened', and the fees were for massage services without HE, it isn't illegal.
There is nothing she or the john can be charged with under today's law. What any two adults freely choose to exchange in the circumstances of having sex is their business alone. All that the present law prohibits is operating an establishment where sex is sold, or otherwise taking a cut if you're not the seller, or trying to arrange any such deal out in public.
But there is neither offence nor penalty for an act of prostitution itself, whether you're buying or selling.
I'm a little confused as to how this is allegedly foolproof and supposedly leaves no trail...Direct Deposit - Thats the way to go, no trail. and you can do it from your cell phone.
In general, I'd suggest clients do the same.
PayPal is another source of money transfer, Which is literally undetectable. I use it all the time for ebay purchases.
I'd argue the contrary; there are permanent time-stamped and dated bank records on both sides of a cyber-exchange showing the debit and corresponding deposit as one transaction. All that's left is for the Crown to establish that transaction was to purchase sex.
When the physical evidence is a wad of cash—not necessarily withdrawn or received in a lump sum on any known day—the Crown first has to prove that it changed hands between the parties present, or was about to, as well as having to prove the exchange was to purchase sex.
You know I am so taking you up on that offer...I was thinking of taking up tennis, maybe 1 hr of lessons and other hour of post relief therapy...give me a shout when you are in the Tdot area ...
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so I provided you with consultation services, personal training, maybe I mowed your lawn ... you paid quite generously by email money transfer. Next friday night we get together and have wild sex. For free, of course
can i ask you, with all my respect? you really think that's going to work?so I provided you with consultation services, personal training, maybe I mowed your lawn ... you paid quite generously by email money transfer. Next friday night we get together and have wild sex. For free, of course
sure, you can say you are giving piano lessons and you're a freelance piano instructor..and you dont have to provide proof that you're a freelance professional piano instructor...
but..
the police aren't stupid. and they can see through this ruse/bullsh*t play.
and they might decide to arrest and press charges anyways.
its like a killer being caught in the house with the body on the floor and he's saying he didnt do it, he just walked in on the crime scene cause he was just looking for a bathroom to use, in the house.
in the end, the police and court of law are going to put you on trial. whether or not your guilty, they're gonna drag you through the mud and put you through an exhausting ordeal of process in court. call you guilty and make you prove your innocence. you think the police give a sh*t about you or what happens to you?
regardless if in this country you're innocent until proven guilty.
