Toronto Escorts

Pilotless Planes

SkyRider

Banned
Mar 31, 2009
17,572
2
0
Imagine you open the cockpit door and there are no pilots! Would you fly in a pilotless plane?
 

explorerzip

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2006
8,162
1,322
113
We're basically there already. Planes can already take off, land and maintain a course on their own.
 

fisherm

Active member
Aug 17, 2014
1,202
11
38
Not sure I'd trust the technology without a solid track record. A recent survey suggests only 17% would.
 

SkyRider

Banned
Mar 31, 2009
17,572
2
0
I think the report was published by UBS (the big Swiss bank). Apparently, human pilots are very expensive and there is currently a shortage. Maybe, they can have humanlike robots sitting in the cockpit to give the impression that there are humans in control (LOL).
 

michelline

Banned
Nov 17, 2015
641
1
0
What if there is a computer glitch or eletriacl issues?
 

SkyRider

Banned
Mar 31, 2009
17,572
2
0
What if there is a computer glitch or eletriacl issues?
To quote our friend Fuji: "Wear a helmet".

Seriously, I think a lot of crashes and near misses are caused by human error. That Air Canada near miss was probably human pilot error. Even Harrison Ford (Raiders of the Lost Ark) had a near miss. Then there was that crazy German pilot who deliberately crashed the plane.

On the other hand, Sully landed his plane safely in a river.

P.S. Just saw on the news that getting rid of human pilots would save the industry $35 billion. That's a lot of coin and will probably reduce your airfare (no need to save Air Miles).
 

nuprin001

Member
Sep 12, 2007
925
1
18
Human pilots are on planes mostly for emergencies these days. Most accidents, by far, are caused by the meat in the seat, not the wires in the dash.

Would I be nervous? The first couple of times, probably. That's just human. But I'd do it. And I'd get used to it.

Legitimately, they could probably switch to a single pilot system to save costs and it wouldn't cause any statistically significant increase in safety issues while saving a bit of cost. I wouldn't have any problems with that. A single human pilot for emergencies would be a reasonable decision, IMO.
 

FAST

Banned
Mar 12, 2004
10,069
1
0
Is going to be interesting to hear from the pilots, self proclaimed, or otherwise,... here on this subject.
 

explorerzip

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2006
8,162
1,322
113
What if there is a computer glitch or eletriacl issues?
All modern aircraft have multiple redundant computer systems. It would take a catastrophic failure of multiple system to take a plane down regardless if a human or automation was flying the plane.
 

explorerzip

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2006
8,162
1,322
113
Human pilots are on planes mostly for emergencies these days. Most accidents, by far, are caused by the meat in the seat, not the wires in the dash.

Would I be nervous? The first couple of times, probably. That's just human. But I'd do it. And I'd get used to it.

Legitimately, they could probably switch to a single pilot system to save costs and it wouldn't cause any statistically significant increase in safety issues while saving a bit of cost. I wouldn't have any problems with that. A single human pilot for emergencies would be a reasonable decision, IMO.
Computers can still get confused if the plane's various sensors are not working properly. There were a number of crashes caused by such sensors giving off conflicting information. I remember seeing an episode of Mayday on Discovery that talked about conflicting readings that caused a crash. I think it had something to do with a blocked pitot tube, which is needed to measure air speed. Since it the pitot tube was blocked, the air speed indicator was not working so that confused the autopilot and the human pilots.
 

fisherm

Active member
Aug 17, 2014
1,202
11
38
No computer system is foolproof. Think of the damage if a hacker got in ...
 

Mr. Piggy

Banned
Jul 4, 2007
3,033
1
0
Oshawa
Just saw on the news that getting rid of human pilots would save the industry $35 billion. That's a lot of coin and will probably reduce your airfare (no need to save Air Miles).
I wouldn't count on airfares being reduced. Airlines would use the excuse that the software is expensive.
 

Mr. Piggy

Banned
Jul 4, 2007
3,033
1
0
Oshawa
No computer system is foolproof. Think of the damage if a hacker got in ...
That's what I was thinking too. This BS of no pilots on planes and driverless cars needs to be scrapped. If I'm still living when all cars become computerized, I'll give up driving.
 

FAST

Banned
Mar 12, 2004
10,069
1
0
Automated systems are superior to humans.

As I understand it, some military stuff is un-flyable with out a computer.

As has been already stated,...its pretty much all automated now,...pilots don't have their hands on "stick" anymore, they turn a knob, or enter values.

I'm sure I'm going to get attitude form some pilot here,...could care less.

Hired a cat in the Caribbean a while back, the "skipper" used the automated system to run everything, said it was better than any human.

Would I feel comfortable without at least one pilot up front,...nope.
 

explorerzip

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2006
8,162
1,322
113
No computer system is foolproof. Think of the damage if a hacker got in ...
For that to happen, Internet access on board the plane would have to be a lot faster and directly connected to the flight system. Neither of these is the case right now.
 

explorerzip

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2006
8,162
1,322
113
Automated systems are superior to humans.

As I understand it, some military stuff is un-flyable with out a computer.

As has been already stated,...its pretty much all automated now,...pilots don't have their hands on "stick" anymore, they turn a knob, or enter values.

I'm sure I'm going to get attitude form some pilot here,...could care less.

Hired a cat in the Caribbean a while back, the "skipper" used the automated system to run everything, said it was better than any human.

Would I feel comfortable without at least one pilot up front,...nope.
Exactly. Many modern planes are designed with unstable air frames so they are more maneuverable. The trade off is that a human cannot fly it without automation.
 

unassuming

Well-known member
Feb 11, 2017
11,941
3,585
113
IMO, if majority of people (say 65% more) won't board a pilotless plane, it'll never happen, simple economics, if there is no demand, no supply.
 

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
25,341
3,686
113
Oh no.......oh no

 
Toronto Escorts