Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives widen their lead over Justin Trudeau’s Liberals

danmand

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How about some priorities?
First you get your conservatives to move in the right direction. Then you prioritize.

Otherwise you will prioritize what to cut out.
 

jcpro

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First you get your conservatives to move in the right direction. Then you prioritize.

Otherwise you will prioritize what to cut out.
Well, what do Conservatives have yo do with anything? Don't the Libs/NDP have the numbers? And Justin did have a majority all by himself, too. I think you're just presenting excuses.
 

danmand

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Well, what do Conservatives have yo do with anything? Don't the Libs/NDP have the numbers? And Justin did have a majority all by himself, too. I think you're just presenting excuses.
When did I give excuses for anybody? The Ontario Conservatives are busy privatizing health care.
 

jcpro

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When did I give excuses for anybody? The Ontario Conservatives are busy privatizing health care.
Two different subjects. National dental plan is a federal initiative. Streamlining and privatizing healthcare access in Ontario is provincial.
 

Frankfooter

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Two different subjects. National dental plan is a federal initiative. Streamlining and privatizing healthcare access in Ontario is provincial.
Yup, JT is providing more health care.
DoFo is cutting services, cutting nurses salaries, closing hospitals and wants you to pay for telehealth.
 
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jcpro

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Yup, JT is providing more health care.
DoFo is cutting services, cutting nurses salaries, closing hospitals and wants you to pay for telehealth.
He's not providing shit. Healthcare delivery is a provincial responsibility.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This is just beautiful news to read today.........Rejoice change from this dangerous divisive regime and their sycophants is coming.
All the Libs have to do is create another coalition government and its lights out for PP
 
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shakenbake

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I believe you misunderstood my sarcasm
Yes I know that was decided on but again why as tax payers do we have to support the government offering free dental ? I completely support the Cons in pushing back on that kind of wasted tax payers money !! This is why we live in the most expensive time in our history cause liberals want everything for free without working or paying for the necessities of life
If you feel that way, why not relinquish your ohip, then?
 

Frankfooter

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He's not providing shit. Healthcare delivery is a provincial responsibility.
 

danmand

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Anybody who relinquishes their OHIP (if such an option ever exist) should be refunded their fair share of the taxes paid by them.
Why is that? If I don't have children in school, should I get ta x refunded? And If I don't drive ........
 
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JohnLarue

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Anybody who relinquishes their OHIP (if such an option ever exist) should be refunded their fair share of the taxes paid by them.
that is logical, however would never happen,
govts (Federal, Municipal & Provincial) have all borrowed irresponsibly
taxes will be required just to service the debt
 

bver_hunter

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When did dental become a government funded benefit??
Have some patience as the budget has just been passed for the Families earning less than $90,000 in Canada!!

I believe you misunderstood my sarcasm
Yes I know that was decided on but again why as tax payers do we have to support the government offering free dental ? I completely support the Cons in pushing back on that kind of wasted tax payers money !! This is why we live in the most expensive time in our history cause liberals want everything for free without working or paying for the necessities of life
What you are supporting is a program for the elitist who have their company covering the dental program. However, did you have a problem when Doug Ford's Cons implemented it in Ontario for Single Seniors earning less than $22,200 or Couples with incomes of less than $37,100??

 

bver_hunter

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When did dental become a government funded benefit??
Have some patience as the budget has just been passed for the Families earning less than $90,000 in Canada!!

I believe you misunderstood my sarcasm
Yes I know that was decided on but again why as tax payers do we have to support the government offering free dental ? I completely support the Cons in pushing back on that kind of wasted tax payers money !! This is why we live in the most expensive time in our history cause liberals want everything for free without working or paying for the necessities of life
What you are supporting is a program for the elitist who have their company covering the dental program. However, did you have a problem when Doug Ford implemented it in Ontario for Single Seniors earning less than $22,200 or Couples with incomes of less than $37,100??
 

lomotil

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I believe you misunderstood my sarcasm
Yes I know that was decided on but again why as tax payers do we have to support the government offering free dental ? I completely support the Cons in pushing back on that kind of wasted tax payers money !! This is why we live in the most expensive time in our history cause liberals want everything for free without working or paying for the necessities of life
The Trudeau Liberals did not campaign or advocate for a national dental plan. It was an NDP proposal which Trudeau accepted so that his minority government could survive similar to how the Canada Health Act came in with the Tommy Douglas NDP underwritten of the governing minority Liberals in the 60’s.
The cost of the dental plan is hard to quantify, it could be over 25 billion dollars per annum once all ages get covered and will be the largest change in the Canadian health industry in decades.

Simply, if Trudeau had a majority there would have been no national dental plan and even if Poilievre gets a majority in the next election , he would not terminate the national dental plan that he currently opposes.

Poilievre is following Harper’s advice and not giving much details as to what he plans to do but is ramping up on GOP( Trump) style attacks. Harper did not allow any of his ministers to speak to the media and released occasional statements from the PMO and Poilievre may do the same except perhaps making Rebel news our “Canadian Fox News”
 
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