No, there is no precedent anywhere that says Israel can continue to avoid legal responsibility purely by also delaying and stopping all peace talks.No such thing. Israel has a legal responsibility to allow refugees to return once conditions allow - AKA peace.
Israel has no legal responsibility here.No, there is no precedent anywhere that says Israel can continue to avoid legal responsibility purely by also delaying and stopping all peace talks.
Israel should settle with the Palestinian refugees, including restitution for nearly 50 years of being forced to live in refugee camps while Israel avoided peace.
Your right. there is no precedent since as usual you are making up shit. The fact that you continue to blame Israel for the lack of peace while praising Hamas as a peace group despite their outright refusal to accept any peace deal and openly calling for more attacks on civilians is pathetic.No, there is no precedent anywhere that says Israel can continue to avoid legal responsibility purely by also delaying and stopping all peace talks.
Israel should settle with the Palestinian refugees, including restitution for nearly 50 years of being forced to live in refugee camps while Israel avoided peace.
Israel is the occupying power.The fact that you continue to blame Israel for the lack of peace
More bullshit. All you ever do is lie and mislead and deceive.Israel is the occupying power.
They rule by military force.
Blaming those occupied for the lack of peace is the ultimate wifebeater's defence.
Its stupid.
conditions have allowed for a long time. If so many arabs live peacefully in Israel, then what grounds does Israel have to slam the door behind those that fled and confiscate their property? Israel has succeeded in maintaining a Jewish majority. Perhaps "ethnic cleansing" is the wrong term, perhaps Ethnic pruning would be more appropriate.No such thing. Israel has a legal responsibility to allow refugees to return once conditions allow - AKA peace. There is absolutely no legal precedent to force a country to take generations of people born in other countries because their ancestors were refugees.
And Israel is an absolute failure at 'ethnic cleansing' The population of Arabs in the former Mandate is 6 or 7 times what it was in 1947 and a good many of them are full Israeli citizens.
So your point is that if people die then the crime is forgiven? Even if ethic cleansing is not heritable, property rights are, as are citizenship and residence. Confiscating property along ethnic lines is illegal. But of course you will probably gloss this over and not comment on it because you know it is inherently wrong and indefeasible.Nope. You are wrong. That is false.
1. Their ancestor wasn't ethnically cleansed, and
2. Ethnic cleansing isn't a heritable trait, and
3. Arab countries, the aggressors who started the war, are the responsible parties
Israel has an obligation to compensate people for lost property, or who are the heirs of lost property. Property rights are heritable, unlike what you are talking about.
You can't just make up non existent crimes. The whole premise of your claim is false, no one was ethnically cleansed.So your point is that if people die then the crime is forgiven? Even if ethic cleansing is not heritable, property rights are, as are citizenship and residence. Confiscating property along ethnic lines is illegal. But of course you will probably gloss this over and not comment on it because you know it is inherently wrong and indefeasible.
So once again you refuse to criticize Hamas who outright refuses peace and calls for continued attacks on Israeli civilians. Hamas are the wife beaters to both Israeli civilians and their own.Israel is the occupying power.
They rule by military force.
Blaming those occupied for the lack of peace is the ultimate wifebeater's defence.
Its stupid.
Your right. The conditions are there but the Palestinian leadership refuses to accept them. Peace will not be possible until the Palestinian leadership is willing to accept peace with Israel.conditions have allowed for a long time. If so many arabs live peacefully in Israel, then what grounds does Israel have to slam the door behind those that fled and confiscate their property? Israel has succeeded in maintaining a Jewish majority. Perhaps "ethnic cleansing" is the wrong term, perhaps Ethnic pruning would be more appropriate.
It was one giant pruning without which demographics would be substantially different today.Your right. The conditions are there but the Palestinian leadership refuses to accept them. Peace will not be possible until the Palestinian leadership is willing to accept peace with Israel.
And even 'pruning' is a ridiculous term when the population of Israeli Arabs and West Bank Palestinians continues to grow.
It wasn't a "pruning", it was a civil war started by Arab nations during which a large number of Arabs refused to remain in territory captured by Jews. No-one was ethnically cleansed, and regardless of your opinion on that you don't have an automatic right of citizenship to a country just because your ancestor decided to leave it. Otherwise many people would be citizens of a half dozen countries and eventually we'd all be citizens of every country.It was one giant pruning without which demographics would be substantially different today.
In that post I also didn't criticize China or Putin.So once again you refuse to criticize Hamas who outright refuses peace and calls for continued attacks on Israeli civilians. Hamas are the wife beaters to both Israeli civilians and their own.
You are right, they have offered compensation and some right of return. But it is always tied to some shitty deal that the Palis cannot agree to. The issue of right of return my be agreed to as a SEPARATE precondition. Israel needs to sign a deal, that is guaranteed by the US and EU. The deal only goes into effect with a total peace and is tied to Israels GDP growth rate or some inflation adjuster. Going back to square one has always been the issue. A deal is close, then ..nothing. Its like effin ground hog day. The Oslo process tried to end this, but Israel has blown it to pieces.You can't just make up non existent crimes. The whole premise of your claim is false, no one was ethnically cleansed.
Property rights certainly are heritable which is why every peace deal Israel has proposed had included compensation for property. Maybe the Palestinians shield say yes to one someday!
And Israel offered that even though the Arab nations have never offered compensation for the property lost by the Jews ethnically cleansed from those nations.
Meanwhile this point has carried: the Palestinians living in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc, are the responsibility of those nations both because that is where they were born, and also because the aggression of those nations caused the war from which those people fled.
Israel has offered return to the ACTUAL refugees who left, never their descendants, and yes, compensation. And the only thing you and your pally terror buddies think it's a shitty deal is that it leaves Israel intact as a Jewish state. Otherwise it's always been a fantastic offer and one entirely in line with what the Arab league suggests is fair. The fact is that the Palestinians don't want peace--they continue to want the destruction of Israel.You are right, they have offered compensation and some right of return
Israel can guarantee its own deals, cut the blatant racist bullshit.Israel needs to sign a deal, that is guaranteed by the US and EU.
First off, the 'pruning' was mostly of the free will of the Arabs who left out of fear during a war started when the Arabs refused to accept partition. Very very few were actually forced out after their villages and towns engaged in attacks. And the 'pruning' of the Arab states which chased equal numbers of Jews to Israel? Israel took in 800,000 Jewish refugees chased from Arab lands. Meanwhile the Arab states locked their Arab brothers in camps without rights.It was one giant pruning without which demographics would be substantially different today.
Wait, are you really saying that Hamas (the elected Legislature of the last Palestinian elections) refusing top accept peace has no bearing on the lack of peace. Shit your excuses are getting more and more pathetic.In that post I also didn't criticize China or Putin.
But none of those have any bearing on Israel ruling Palestine through military occupation.....
