Peter McKay to leave federals politics

[Malika Fantasy]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pet...r-to-leave-federal-politics-1.3092480?cmp=rss

There is nothing yet on the article, but CBC just announced that Peter McKay will step down from politics.


It may not mean anything, or we can cross fingers that the new person stepping will be more lenient/not conservative and that bill c-36 could change!

 

[james t kirk]

I imagine that they will give him his own private helicopter ride out of Ottawa just for Old Time's sake.

My guess is that he, like the rest of the Reformers are bailing out ahead of the next election smelling blood in the water.

Good riddance to him and the rest of the Harper Conservatives. Can't wait till the next election to see Harper sent packing. What will be really great is seeing Alberta renounce the Harper regime too.

 

[Aardvark154]

However, saying that you will not stand again for election in October is not exactly leaping out the window when there are a good three months for the House still to sit.

 

[oldjones]

I imagine that they will give him his own private helicopter ride out of Ottawa just for Old Time's sake.

My guess is that he, like the rest of the Reformers are bailing out ahead of the next election smelling blood in the water.

Good riddance to him and the rest of the Harper Conservatives. Can't wait till the next election to see Harper sent packing. What will be really great is seeing Alberta renounce the Harper regime too.

Of course Ol' Pete wasn't a Reformer; he was the guy who sold the shell of the Progressive Conservative Party to the CRAP, after promising his rump of remaining members he'd never do any such thing. Which speaks to his opportunistic instincts and his sense that while the getting's good it's time to get gone.

Also speaks to the scant value his type — the fleeing rats and those still aboard with Our Dear Leader — place on living up to your word.

 

[peteeey]

Sounds like has all the qualifications to become a senator.

Of course Ol' Pete wasn't a Reformer; he was the guy who sold the shell of the Progressive Conservative Party to the CRAP, after promising his rump of remaining members he'd never do any such thing. Which speaks to his opportunistic instincts and his sense that while the getting's good it's time to get gone.

Also speaks to the scant value his type — the fleeing rats and those still aboard with Our Dear Leader — place on living up to your word.

 

[Barca]

I do hope it's the rats leaving the ship.

But honestly, I dislike all of these parties. They all have major disadvantages for Canadians. For example, while Tories have been ideological bullies, Grits are just plain old corrupt. So pick your poison.

 

[james t kirk]

I do hope it's the rats leaving the ship.

But honestly, I dislike all of these parties. They all have major disadvantages for Canadians. For example, while Tories have been ideological bullies, Grits are just plain old corrupt. So pick your poison.

I would be thrilled if Paul Martin would return to the liberals. But sadly, that ship has sailed. He was the best Prime Minister we hardly had.

 

[wazup]

Those close to Mckay say he has been moping around with a long face since the decision.

http://en.epochtimes.com/news_images/2006-3-30-mckay.jpg

 

[SchlongConery]

It may not mean anything, or we can cross fingers that the new person stepping will be more lenient/not conservative and that bill c-36 could change!

Sorry to shoot down the faint glimmer of hope but who the current Minister of Justice is, is meaningless. He is a bench warmer and the policy direction comes from "the Party", and in this government the overwhelming director of policy is Stephen Harper. And he is clear, as are most Conservative MP's in Cabinet, that they believe prostitution is harmful to society. Their bias is not going to be swayed by harm reduction, safety of sex workers arguments. To them, the "war" on the sex industry is the same as the "war" on drugs, terrorism and poverty. (Ok, that last one :caked:was just thrown to see who is reading before they post !!! )


Bill C-36 is no longer a "Bill". It has been passed into Law. To change the intention of that law (criminalization of the buying or facilitation of sexual commerce) the law would have to be repealed and replaced by a new Bill that would have to again go through the process of being passed into law.

It was drafted by employees of the Ministry of Justice whose sole job it is to prosecute. The Ministry of Justice is not a social ministry, a public safety ministry, a labour ministry, an economic development industry... it is a PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. They are hammers, and everything is a nail to them.

Fortunately, the Provincial and local law enforcement agencies apparently do not share the opinion of the Federal Conservative Party and don't seem to be enforcing the core intention of the new law any more than they were enforcing the provisions of the old laws except in the cases where there were egregious problems like trafficking, nuisance bawdy houses etc.

So I wouldn't count on this law being amended or repealed. Any government to do so would be seen as encouraging prostitution and would lack public support of such an affirmative initiative.

The good news is that YOU, as a provider are FREE to advertise ANY SEXUAL SERVICE to any degree and specificity you want to, and do so with absolute legal right to do so. You can advertise "Sexual Intercourse/Fucking $150. Oral Sex/Blow Job with condom $120 (add $20 for without condom) and unless you run afoul of general indecency or public communications laws, you are immune from prosecution... after all, in the eyes of the law <batting eyes> you are a victim.

Now, TERB, Now Magazine, craigslist, back pages, Google, an escort service owner/manager and your clients are all at risk of arrest and prosecution at any time.

The eternal cat and mouse game of this game will continue so long as men have penis'!

 

[TeasePlease]

Sorry to shoot down the faint glimmer of hope but who the current Minister of Justice is, is meaningless. He is a bench warmer and the policy direction comes from "the Party", and in this government the overwhelming director of policy is Stephen Harper. And he is clear, as are most Conservative MP's in Cabinet, that they believe prostitution is harmful to society. Their bias is not going to be swayed by harm reduction, safety of sex workers arguments. To them, the "war" on the sex industry is the same as the "war" on drugs, terrorism and poverty. (Ok, that last one :caked:was just thrown to see who is reading before they post !!! )


Bill C-36 is no longer a "Bill". It has been passed into Law. To change the intention of that law (criminalization of the buying or facilitation of sexual commerce) the law would have to be repealed and replaced by a new Bill that would have to again go through the process of being passed into law.

It was drafted by employees of the Ministry of Justice whose sole job it is to prosecute. The Ministry of Justice is not a social ministry, a public safety ministry, a labour ministry, an economic development industry... it is a PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. They are hammers, and everything is a nail to them.

Fortunately, the Provincial and local law enforcement agencies apparently do not share the opinion of the Federal Conservative Party and don't seem to be enforcing the core intention of the new law any more than they were enforcing the provisions of the old laws except in the cases where there were egregious problems like trafficking, nuisance bawdy houses etc.

So I wouldn't count on this law being amended or repealed. Any government to do so would be seen as encouraging prostitution and would lack public support of such an affirmative initiative.

The good news is that YOU, as a provider are FREE to advertise ANY SEXUAL SERVICE to any degree and specificity you want to, and do so with absolute legal right to do so. You can advertise "Sexual Intercourse/Fucking $150. Oral Sex/Blow Job with condom $120 (add $20 for without condom) and unless you run afoul of general indecency or public communications laws, you are immune from prosecution... after all, in the eyes of the law <batting eyes> you are a victim.

Now, TERB, Now Magazine, craigslist, back pages, Google, an escort service owner/manager and your clients are all at risk of arrest and prosecution at any time.

The eternal cat and mouse game of this game will continue so long as men have penis'!

Very well put.

There's no win in C36, only loss.

I'm still not sure that the Cons can't win this election, but these top leadership changes tell me that Harper's days are numbered. Baird and Mackay are distancing themselves and bidding their time.

 

[red]

Petey was a crybaby (oh belinda how could you) and an abuser of public resources (helicopters? What helicopter?). Glad to see him going. Every govt is corrupt and needs to be kicked out every couple of elections. Hopefully they lose and we elect a minority liberal or ndp govt.

 

[Just looking]

Sorry to shoot down the faint glimmer of hope but who the current Minister of Justice is, is meaningless. He is a bench warmer and the policy direction comes from "the Party", and in this government the overwhelming director of policy is Stephen Harper. And he is clear, as are most Conservative MP's in Cabinet, that they believe prostitution is harmful to society. Their bias is not going to be swayed by harm reduction, safety of sex workers arguments. To them, the "war" on the sex industry is the same as the "war" on drugs, terrorism and poverty. (Ok, that last one :caked:was just thrown to see who is reading before they post !!! )


Bill C-36 is no longer a "Bill". It has been passed into Law. To change the intention of that law (criminalization of the buying or facilitation of sexual commerce) the law would have to be repealed and replaced by a new Bill that would have to again go through the process of being passed into law.

It was drafted by employees of the Ministry of Justice whose sole job it is to prosecute. The Ministry of Justice is not a social ministry, a public safety ministry, a labour ministry, an economic development industry... it is a PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. They are hammers, and everything is a nail to them.

Fortunately, the Provincial and local law enforcement agencies apparently do not share the opinion of the Federal Conservative Party and don't seem to be enforcing the core intention of the new law any more than they were enforcing the provisions of the old laws except in the cases where there were egregious problems like trafficking, nuisance bawdy houses etc.

So I wouldn't count on this law being amended or repealed. Any government to do so would be seen as encouraging prostitution and would lack public support of such an affirmative initiative.

The good news is that YOU, as a provider are FREE to advertise ANY SEXUAL SERVICE to any degree and specificity you want to, and do so with absolute legal right to do so. You can advertise "Sexual Intercourse/Fucking $150. Oral Sex/Blow Job with condom $120 (add $20 for without condom) and unless you run afoul of general indecency or public communications laws, you are immune from prosecution... after all, in the eyes of the law <batting eyes> you are a victim.

Now, TERB, Now Magazine, craigslist, back pages, Google, an escort service owner/manager and your clients are all at risk of arrest and prosecution at any time.

The eternal cat and mouse game of this game will continue so long as men have penis'!

That is true, The bill has passed and undo this, someone would really have to appeal it. I STAND UP and say DO NOT VOTE PC AT ALL. I may just vote NDP for sure as they were really against this bill in the first place. This way they will have more seats. They will never get in, but it would be nice for them to have more seats. Bill C 36 sadly is here to stay unless someone goes after to push it out now. Peter was a problem in many areas, and He was pushed out anyway. How he passed that bill, its just not fair.

 

[nottyboi]

good riddance. Peter McKay personifies what is wrong with Canadian politics. If such a dumbass can go so far...what hope is there for this country.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Very well put.

There's no win in C36, only loss.

I'm still not sure that the Cons can't win this election, but these top leadership changes tell me that Harper's days are numbered. Baird and Mackay are distancing themselves and bidding their time.

I don't understand why MacKay would be leaving. What does he have lined up that's better for him?

I also don't believe that the Conservatives will lose, I just hope they don't win by a large margin.

Frankly, I still believe that they can do a better job fiscally than the Liberals, however, I'm disappointed and disenchanted with the Harper Conservatives and the direction they are taking.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Of course Ol' Pete wasn't a Reformer; he was the guy who sold the shell of the Progressive Conservative Party to the CRAP, after promising his rump of remaining members he'd never do any such thing. Which speaks to his opportunistic instincts and his sense that while the getting's good it's time to get gone.

Also speaks to the scant value his type — the fleeing rats and those still aboard with Our Dear Leader — place on living up to your word.

I recall at the time, that the amalgamation of the Reform Party and the PC's was endorsed even by Brian Mulroney. I didn't think that Peter was doing a disservice by merging.

 

[SchlongConery]

good riddance. Peter McKay personifies what is wrong with Canadian politics. If such a dumbass can go so far...what hope is there for this country.

So true.

The Party Machine installed him as his father, Elmer MacKay was a Mulroney-era cabinet member.

 

[GPIDEAL]

That is true, The bill has passed and undo this, someone would really have to appeal it. I STAND UP and say DO NOT VOTE PC AT ALL. I may just vote NDP for sure as they were really against this bill in the first place. This way they will have more seats. They will never get in, but it would be nice for them to have more seats. Bill C 36 sadly is here to stay unless someone goes after to push it out now. Peter was a problem in many areas, and He was pushed out anyway. How he passed that bill, its just not fair.

That's a fair voting strategy.

 

[SchlongConery]

Frankly, I still believe that they can do a better job fiscally than the Liberals, however, I'm disappointed and disenchanted with the Harper Conservatives and the direction they are taking.

Why would you think they could do a better job "fiscally" than Liberals? IIRC, for the past 20+ years, Liberal federal gov't's have run lower deficits than conservatives.

I think we have more social problems than fiscal problems. And while I have traditionally been a conservative gov't voter, I think the conservative gut's since Mulroney have done more to damage socially and fiscally Canada than they have helped. Just my opinion.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Why would you think they could do a better job "fiscally" than Liberals? IIRC, for the past 20+ years, Liberal federal gov't's have run lower deficits than conservatives.

I think we have more social problems than fiscal problems. And while I have traditionally been a conservative gov't voter, I think the conservative gut's since Mulroney have done more to damage socially and fiscally Canada than they have helped. Just my opinion.

Did the Conservatives lower transfer payments like the Liberals did to achieve those deficit targets or surpluses? The downloading had a domino effect. Harris was forced to download onto the municipalities as a result too.

I also say what I said because I can't believe that Justin Trudeau will be more fiscally-prudent.

 

[SchlongConery]

Did the Conservatives lower transfer payments like the Liberals did to achieve those deficit targets or surpluses? The downloading had a domino effect. Harris was forced to download onto the municipalities as a result too.

I also say what I said because I can't believe that Justin Trudeau will be more fiscally-prudent.

Fiscal prudence not simply cutting and slashing.

Take marijuana for example.

Social reform to decriminalize marijuana could save billions (?) in federal, and local law enforcement, courts, prisons expenses and not be an "entry" point into the world of criminality for many young people simply because they smoke or sell a weed that is demonstrably less harmful than alcohol. What of the long term economic loss of those who become "criminals" over weed and are permanently disadvantaged for the rest of their lives over a criminal record?

Simple social changes can have economic benefits.

Are conservative policies on sex and marijuana (for example) fiscally prudent?