Pet python kills two children

[GameBoy27]

"They had a super day,” said Rose. "That's the type of life they had and that's what we're going to try and remember."

Yes, they had a super day before the two brothers were killed by a Python, cutting their lives short by 70-80 years. What a dumbass comment FFS! Some people never cease to amaze me.

 

[fuji]

Yes, they had a super day before the two brothers were killed by a Python, cutting their lives short by 70-80 years. What a dumbass comment FFS! Some people never cease to amaze me.

Hey it was a pretty special experience. You know, not everybody gets killed by a python.

 

[Aardvark154]

Two quotes of interest:

Bry Loyst, of the Indian River Reptile Zoo in Ontario, who says he has been asked to help rehouse reptiles from the store, says that he was told that the python has escaped before, however the RCMP will not confirm that.


John Kendrick, of the Reptile Store in Hamilton said "Once they are in constricting mode, any part of their body that is touching something that moves, they'll wrap it, I've seen snakes with two different prey items at the same time, one with the back of the body and one with the front. It could have been an incident like that."

 

[red]

where was meesh?

 

[BottomsUp]

I still don't get how the snake was able to wrap itself around the two boys without them waking up and start screaming. In order for the snake to constrict itself around them, it would have to go underneath them and around them. I'm just not picturing how this happens without them being awakened and aware of what was happening. And for this to happen to both of them further confuses the scenario.

 

[Aardvark154]

^ The Boys are asleep, the Snake (a species which is aggressive and bad natured) drops onto them I can see this happening very quickly.

 

[5hummer]

I suspect there are a few snake owners on the Board. I made a negative comment about snakes a few years ago and the uproar from some members was brutal.

Let them rant!

If they're housing a dangerous pet, then expect to get seriously harmed or killed. And, accept the full responsibility if others are harmed or killed.

 

[BottomsUp]

^ The Boys are asleep, the Snake (a species which is aggressive and bad natured) drops onto them I can see this happening very quickly.

Dropping onto them in and of itself doesn't get them killed. It needs to wrap itself around the boys, which means it needs to get underneath them. So, where did the snake drop in relation to the boys and were the boys sleeping together? I still find this very puzzling.

 

[GPIDEAL]

This article indicates:

- the boys had visited a farm earlier that day and played with small animals, and were likely covered by their scent
- contrary to earlier reports, the snake's owner did not keep the snake locked in the pet store downstairs, but rather in his own apartment upstairs in a glass enclosure

Big change that the snake was in the apartment, and that there was and had always been an un-grated ventilation hole in the pen. I understand that the Campbellton RCMP Detachment are now treating this as a criminal investigation.

Damn that's bad luck but this incident was preventable from the owner's side with a more secure pen.

 

[oil&gas]

I still don't get how the snake was able to wrap itself around the two boys without them waking up and start screaming. In order for the snake to constrict itself around them, it would have to go underneath them and around them. I'm just not picturing how this happens without them being awakened and aware of what was happening. And for this to happen to both of them further confuses the scenario.

News so far has been vague about the whereabout of the adults. I've read that
the son of the pet store owner (best friend of the two boys) was sleeping in a
separate room. I remember one source said that the two boys were sleeping
in the living room but no words about whether the pet store owner was there
in the apartment before the boys were found dead. The mom of the boys
was said to be living nearby but no words as to where she was. Presumably
the son of the pet store owner is about the same age of the two boys. The
adults can easily be charged with child abandonment if not criminal negligence
had they been away from the apartment I suppose.

 

[BottomsUp]

News so far has been vague about the whereabout of the adults. I've read that
the son of the pet store owner (best friend of the two boys) was sleeping in a
separate room. I remember one source said that the two boys were sleeping
in the living room but no words about whether the pet store owner was there
in the apartment before the boys were found dead. The mom of the boys
was said to be living nearby but no words as to where she was. Presumably
the son of the pet store owner is about the same age of the two boys. The
adults can easily be charged with child abandonment if not criminal negligence
had they been away from the apartment I suppose.

What I read was that the store owners boy was only 3 years old, and that the store owner ran next door to wake up the mother when he found the boys dead. So, he was at home in the morning. Don't know about during the night. Apparently he and the mother were good friends and she lived next door. Guess that could raise some other questions.

 

[Aardvark154]

If they're housing a dangerous pet, then expect to get seriously harmed or killed. And, accept the full responsibility if others are harmed or killed.

In Civil Tort there is always strict liability for the acts of ferae naturae (wild animals) owned by private individuals.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Dropping onto them in and of itself doesn't get them killed. It needs to wrap itself around the boys, which means it needs to get underneath them. So, where did the snake drop in relation to the boys and were the boys sleeping together? I still find this very puzzling.

A 100 lb. snake is strong enough to slither underneath the bodies of either of those small children I'm afraid. Also, don't forget that they were in bed, and a coiled mattress is flexible enough for the snake to push into.

 

[fuji]

Dropping onto them in and of itself doesn't get them killed. It needs to wrap itself around the boys, which means it needs to get underneath them. So, where did the snake drop in relation to the boys and were the boys sleeping together? I still find this very puzzling.

The snake is very very good at killing mammals. That is just what they do. No doubt it went for the neck and moved lightning fast.

 

[BottomsUp]

A 100 lb. snake is strong enough to slither underneath the bodies of either of those small children I'm afraid. Also, don't forget that they were in bed, and a coiled mattress is flexible enough for the snake to push into.

There's no doubt about the strength of the snake, but it seems to me the boys would be awakened before the snake wound himself around them. Not sure how fast a python moves, but I guess I'm wondering how much time someone has to escape, from the time the snake first comes in contact with them to the time its in full constriction mode.

 

[oil&gas]

The mom of the two boys appears to be quite fond of snakes.
There is one picture from her facebook showing her playing with
a snake with some loving words for that scary creature. I imagine
me as a 6 year old kid I would have been scared to hell by the mere
sight of a python. Being regular guests of their mom's best friend--the
pet store owner the boys might have gotten used to being in the company
of the python. Perhaps that could be a factor in the deadly silence
surrounding the swift killing one can imagine.

I also find the idiotic remark made by the boys ' great uncle about
the boys living their life to its fullest intriguing. I wonder if that remark
actually betrays the uncle's awareness of the risk of playing with snakes
that the boys were exposed to.

 

[Rockslinger]

Don't look now but there is a python loose in Vancouver but who knows where it might be now. Check your toilets just in case.

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Four+foot+ball+python+still+loose+North+Vancouver/8760552/story.html

 

[acutus]

Don't look now but there is a python loose in Vancouver but who knows where it might be now. Check your toilets just in case.

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Fou...eptile keeping enthusiasts. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[danmand]

I'm certain that there is a lot more to the incident in N.B. that should come to light as the investigations continue. Of course, the 'fallout' from the N.B. tragedy will resonate throughout and beyond the pet reptile keeping community. For example, the media coverage of an escape of a Ball python in Vancouver. Ball Pythons are small, gentle, harmless creatures that can be an ideal pet for children and pet reptile keeping enthusiasts. Sincerely, Jon .

I think you are going a bit overboard with your enthusiasm for snakes: "ideal pet for children". Ideal means "the best possible".

 

[acutus]

I think you are going a bit overboard with your enthusiasm for snakes: "ideal pet for children". Ideal means "the best possible".

I don't think so... A small, harmless snake such as a Ball Python can be a very low maintenance pet for young children that can teach them the responsibilities of pet ownership with far less expense, maintenance and attention- as far as feeding, cleaning the cage, etc. - than say, goldfish, rats, gerbils, rabbits, etc. - and certainly far less maintenance, expense and attention than a cat or dog. Sincerely, Jon .