Pet Held For Ransom

[Jade4u]

She should have just told the caller on the phone yes that she would pay the 500 and then see what was next to go to another area for payment or if the caller wanted to return the cat themselves and had the cops there waiting at that time.

 

[Diode]

I get a lot of things.YOU GUYD don't. You put kids and dogs into the same "catagory".
WOW. That is just plain dumb. I've had pets. Did I like them, sure. Love them? No.

Funny I got ripped to shreds a few threads back, when I suggested it was "a shame" that an SP was going to abort her baby.
I was called "weird" and strange and that I had mystical belief in "humanity"
Please re-read your posts guys. You sound like the religious "wackos" now.
We eat animals guys.

 

[Marbles]

Because I like most animals better than I like most people.

- Morgan

amen to that! animals, like children, love you unconditionally. they're there for you when you're sick or when you've had a bad day or even after you've scolded them ... how many people in your life can you say that about?

punks who abuse animals do so because they are too weak to abuse people their own size ... just like gang bangers get together and jump people as a group because they are too weak to do so on their own.

 

[Cobster]

Personally, I think the person holding the cat for ransom is a sick twisted fuck and should have their head examined.

Maybe it's Diode, or his S/O...

 

[scrooge]

I get a lot of things.YOU GUYD don't. You put kids and dogs into the same "catagory".
WOW. That is just plain dumb. I've had pets. Did I like them, sure. Love them? No.

Funny I got ripped to shreds a few threads back, when I suggested it was "a shame" that an SP was going to abort her baby.
I was called "weird" and strange and that I had mystical belief in "humanity"
Please re-read your posts guys. You sound like the religious "wackos" now.
We eat animals guys.

Well, maybe you haven't had a dog before or you are not even a pet person. The principle here is not so much a comparison of humans vs. animals. We have laws to prevent cruelty against animals. It is just wrong to steal something from someone else, whether it is money, animals or any other thing.

For what you said, I hope God will make you become the dog or cat subject to abuse in your next life and let's see if you will say the same thing.

 

[Diode]

For what you said, I hope God will make you become the dog or cat subject to abuse in your next life and let's see if you will say the same thing.

Huh? What did I say? I'm not cruel to anybody or anything.
I just can't equate animals to humans.
They are NOT the same.

 

[RTRD]

I...

I get a lot of things.YOU GUYD don't. You put kids and dogs into the same "catagory".
WOW. That is just plain dumb. I've had pets. Did I like them, sure. Love them? No.

Funny I got ripped to shreds a few threads back, when I suggested it was "a shame" that an SP was going to abort her baby.
I was called "weird" and strange and that I had mystical belief in "humanity"
Please re-read your posts guys. You sound like the religious "wackos" now.
We eat animals guys.

...am with you.

 

[RTRD]

So...

Because I like most animals better than I like most people.

- Morgan

...is that a reflection on most people, or on you?

 

[Diode]

...is that a reflection on most people, or on you?

Exactly.

 

[Diode]

...am with you.

Thanks. Sometimes I am quite taken aback by things on this board.

 

[Diode]

amen to that! animals, like children, love you unconditionally. they're there for you when you're sick or when you've had a bad day or even after you've scolded them ... how many people in your life can you say that about?

First you are wrong on both accounts.
Children may love you or they may not...Your job is to love THEM unconditionally
Dogs do not love. That is a human emotion. Dogs follow you around 'cause you are the Alpha dog...and they are simply pack animals.
How many people can I count that have forgiven me for my stupid actions.
Many...I call them Family and friends.
But then again, I may associate with a more human group of people than you.

 

[Morgan Ellis]

...is that a reflection on most people, or on you?

Wow, that's so zen. Let me take a moment to reflect....

Nah. It's them.

There, I've just re-aligned my chakras, and am one with the universe.

- M

 

[RTRD]

Again...

First you are wrong on both accounts.
Children may love you or they may not...Your job is to love THEM unconditionally
Dogs do not love. That is a human emotion. Dogs follow you around 'cause you are the Alpha dog...and they are simply pack animals.
How many people can I count that have forgiven me for my stupid actions.
Many...I call them Family and friends.
But then again, I may associate with a more human group of people than you.

...you are correct - but when dealing with people who assign human value to animal life, they do no understand these things.

Dog do not "love". Dogs are loyal. An admirable quality, no question, but not the same thing. A dog will be loyal to ANYONE we feeds it and treats it well. I love the people in my life who I chose to, and who I bond with.

Children turn on their parents all the time...but I have found that their are a host of people on this site who are experts on children despite having none.

And you are right about friends and family...but again, remember your posts are directed at people who in some cases admit to finding it easier to build a relationship with an animal versus another person...

 

[RTRD]

I can see...

Wow, that's so zen. Let me take a moment to reflect....

Nah. It's them.

There, I've just re-aligned my chakras, and am one with the universe.

- M

...why you have a problem....though I am confident you don't see it as one. Which is also why you have a problem...

 

[Svend]

Yes, anyone who doesn't conform to MLAM's view has a problem.

 

[Diode]

Yes, anyone who doesn't conform to MLAM's view has a problem.

No. Anyone who finds it easier to "love" animals more than humans has a problem.

 

[SPQR]

...you are correct - but when dealing with people who assign human value to animal life, they do no understand these things.

We understand all too well. You do not understand. All life has value, human or otherwise. Its the human supremacy and arogance that is causing the issue.

Remember if cockroaches can out last us, we should not feel so high an mighty.

Dog do not "love". Dogs are loyal. An admirable quality, no question, but not the same thing. A dog will be loyal to ANYONE we feeds it and treats it well. I love the people in my life whoI chose to, and who I bond with.

Humans can't even put the deifnition of what love is. Just look at the number of posts on this site when asked the question of what love is. Yet you dimiss any other living things as not being able to love.

A mother protecting its child from danger and giving her own life is what I consider part of love. Animals, especially dogs do that all the time.

And you are right about friends and family...but again, remember your posts are directed at people who in some cases admit to finding it easier to build a relationship with an animal versus another person...

Ah you see, its easier to build relationship with animals because they are very transparant beings. Humans are not. That in itself explain why it easier to build those relationships.

Does that mean I am not up to the challange of building a relationship with a person. Absolutely not, but it does not change in any way that generally animals are easier.

 

[RTRD]

Thank you...

No. Anyone who finds it easier to "love" animals more than humans has a problem.

...for beating me to the punch...

 

[bestillmehard]

My SO has been raising parrots for years. To me, these birds are a godsend!!! For anytime she is mad, sad, whatever...she goes into her avairy and within minutes she is smiling laughing and feeling great. I asked her why that is and her reply to me was...its all about the love..the birds talk to her (mimicking the things they have heard) they make her feel loved.
So I can understand why some might like animals more than people and also why some consider their animals their kids. I certainly cant understand why someone would hold a pet for ransom? That likely wont get you much but a criminal record. Just my thoughts.

 

[RTRD]

If...

We understand all too well. You do not understand. All life has value, human or otherwise. Its the human supremacy and arogance that is causing the issue.

Remember if cockroaches can out last us, we should not feel so high an mighty.



Humans can't even put the deifnition of what love is. Just look at the number of posts on this site when asked the question of what love is. Yet you dimiss any other living things as not being able to love.

A mother protecting its child from danger and giving her own life is what I consider part of love. Animals, especially dogs do that all the time.



Ah you see, its easier to build relationship with animals because they are very transparant beings. Humans are not. That in itself explain why it easier to build those relationships.

Does that mean I am not up to the challange of building a relationship with a person. Absolutely not, but it does not in any way generally animals are easier.

"Its the human supremacy and arogance that is causing the issue."

...you don't think humans are superior to animals, then we really will have nothing to discuss...

I consider human life to be INFINITELY more valuable to animal life...and humans to be superior in all aspects that matter.

A mother protecting its child from danger and giving her own life is what I consider part of love. Animals, especially dogs do that all the time.

I would call that instinct. Not that a mother doesn't have love for her child....but that isn't what motivates the behavior you describe. I would act to save people I didn't love if I could...

One difference might be what you think "love" is (a point you made). I see love as a rational choice...and think little of people who say they can't control who they fall in love with. I can't MAKE myself fall in love with someone, but I certainly can decide I do NOT want to love someone. On the other hand, as I said, dogs bond with any / everyone who will care for them.