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WASHINGTON (CNN) – Conservative commentator and best-selling author Ann Coulter may find herself in the midst of a controversy for comments Monday suggesting America would be better if everyone was Christian.

Asked by CNBC host Donny Deutsch what the U.S. looks like in her dreams, Coulter said it would look like the Republican National Convention in 2004

"People were happy,” she said, according to a transcript provided to CNN by CNBC. “They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America." (Video: Watch Coulter's comments on CNBC)

When Deutsch responded, "It would be better if we were all Christian?" Coulter said "Yeah."

Deutsch, himself Jewish, continued to press Coulter on her remarks, asking, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians then?"

"Yeah," Coulter responded, adding "Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track."

"You can't possibly believe that," Deutsch responded. “You can’t possibly. You’re too educated.”

"Do you know what Christianity is?" Coulter replied. "See, we believe your religion, but you have to obey. We have the fast track program."

Later in the interview Deutsch asked Coulter if she doesn't want any Jews in the world, Coulter responded, "No, we think — we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say."

"Wow, you didn't really say that, did you," Deutsch said.


"Yeah, no,” Coulter replied. “That’s what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners."

Deutsch said he was personally offended.

"No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be," she said. "I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to live up to all the laws. What Christians believe — this is just a statement of what the New Testament is — is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament."

Deutsch continued to call Coulter's comments anti-semetic.

"No, no, — I don't want you being offended by this," she responded. "This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. You know that. So we think Jews go to heaven. I mean, [the late Rev. Jerry] Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. Ours is "Christ died for our sins." We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all."
 

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Thanks Red. For some reason the CNN link I posted expired.
 

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Yep that Annie is bot's type of gal!.......:D
 

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Asterix said:
Thanks Red. For some reason the CNN link I posted expired.
The correct term would be censored.

If you use the Google Search within CNN, try the "expired" page and type in "perfected jews" you get 3 results that mean nothing, if you go over to the Google Search home page you get over 1,200+ and the results you need.

Heres a link to the article and video:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21257498/

VBB :cool:
 

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I think this was just an attempt to help a jerk like Donny Douche, rather than Coulter running off her mouth. His show "The Big Idea" on CNBC is the lowest rated and sucks huge, but it stays on the air for years and years. I also find Donny Douche to be a horrible advertiser, in fact the worst in all of New York, but people like Donald Trump kiss his ass and for what? The days of wearing docksides with no socks again? I don't get it.

The day Donny Douche-bag is personally offended is the day they can take him royally off the air on CNBC, so I can get some world market news at that time instead.

Gyaos Baltar.
 

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Jolly_Penguin said:
I'm certainly no fan of Coulter's. But in this case I have to say I don't see what she said that's wrong. Christians DO see themselves as Jews plus more or "perfected Jews" as Coulter put it. Christian did grow out of Judaism. Add to this that Mormons see themselves as "perfected Christians".

Do you think other people might find it offensive to hear that everyone would be better off if they were Christian? Some groups, might think back to pogroms or the forced baptisms and other acts in the past and worry about that?


If she had been a muslim, and said that muslim see themselves as perfected christians, how would you feel about that?
 

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Jolly_Penguin said:
Isn't that the whole point of Christianity?

It shouldn't be news to anybody that Christians wish all to convert to Christianity. Its why they have missionaries and why they "witness" etc. Though I wouldn't put it past her saying it elsewhere, I didn't hear her say here that she wishes to force anybody to convert.

This TV show host is clearly looking to be offended to get publicity for his show. And if this is the worst thing he can get Coulter to say he's done a prettey awful job of it. This troll Coulter has said some pretty base things over the years, much worse than this.
I agree. I loathe Ann Coulter, but this plainly a tempest in a teapot. If I believe I/we're right, then at some point ipso fact I/we believe you/they are wrong..

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Who on earth reads her crap???? :confused:
bot, lange, El Rushbloe & his lemmings......
 

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Jolly_Penguin said:
Isn't that the whole point of Christianity?

It shouldn't be news to anybody that Christians wish all to convert to Christianity. Its why they have missionaries and why they "witness" etc. Though I wouldn't put it past her saying it elsewhere, I didn't hear her say here that she wishes to force anybody to convert.

This TV show host is clearly looking to be offended to get publicity for his show. And if this is the worst thing he can get Coulter to say he's done a prettey awful job of it. This troll Coulter has said some pretty base things over the years, much worse than this.
Yes and no.

Yes, I get your point and I get that she works very hard to be politically incorrect (which is why I find her stuff so funny).

No, in that you can't really label people imperfect because they don't believe what you believe.

She often goes to far, clearly this is one of those times.

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onthebottom said:
She often goes to far, clearly this is one of those times.
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But so hasn't Donny Douche-bag. I mean if she said this on Chris Matthews, Larry King or Bill O'Reilly, okay. But Donny Douche-bag, just to get extra TV time promotions for his crappy show, because "he's offended"? I don't think so.

I feel like a devil's advocate for Coulter, but she's just a stick insect with stinky farts.

Gyaos Baltar.
 

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can we stop taking this woman seriously, she isnt a political commentator but a cartoon character who says some of the stupidest things just for shock value. Alot of what she claims is totally wrong, everyone remember how she insisted over and over that Canada was officially in the Vietnam war, and to top it off her favorite movie is Red Dawn :D
 

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One of my favorites was saying Canada was lucky to be the US's neighbor....

LOL

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scouser1 said:
can we stop taking this woman seriously, she isnt a political commentator but a cartoon character who says some of the stupidest things just for shock value. Alot of what she claims is totally wrong, everyone remember how she insisted over and over that Canada was officially in the Vietnam war, and to top it off her favorite movie is Red Dawn :D


I thought Red Dawn was a pretty good movie. farkin Ruskies and cubans.!!!
 

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She doesn't think much of Canadians either.

But Lancs said he'd do her. :rolleyes:


Damn right I would. She may have trouble walking when I'm finished but she would have a new respect for the tenacity of her Northern neighbours.



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LancsLad said:
Damn right I would. She may have trouble walking when I'm finished...



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Given how undernourished she looks, why would you consider this any accomplishment?
 
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