Peaceful Protests

Yeah it will be game over when they start using water cannons. It’s game over for violent protests with this tactic.

This

and this

...are key I believe where these protests end up. Looks like the ban is still temporary and could go the way city council want it.

Either it turns into complete lawlessness and anarchy if they take away police powers like in that letter w.r.t. pepper spray. If they get more violent they will need to support the police force with other means to disperse violent protests such as water cannons but knowing media has an agenda to run this will be very difficult...

It just helps Trump to demonstrate this through the actual destruction of society kind of like what happened to CHAZ. Imagine if you lived in those areas or had a business. But he also doesn’t have much choice in the matter because the people that live there are letting it happen and not holding the politicians accountable for abdicating their responsibility to keep citizens safe.
Check out the big brained twitter links on Brett.

Those are some tasty twitter links. Mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash them down?
 
I do get it. You don't get it. This is why the black communities problems will never be solved. You can't have honest conversations about what the real problems are or you're racist or something. You have a couple hundred black people per year killed by the cops, most of them warranted. You have thousands of black people killed by black people every year...just needless crime. Yet we're only allowed to talk about cops killing blacks. It's like you have a gushing jugular and a sprained ankle and we have to focus on putting ice on the ankle to keep the swelling down. Doesn't make sense. You stop all cops killing blacks and you still have thousand upon thousand of deaths in the black community. Talk about blinders.
Sure.

Poverty caused by systemic racism and general income inequality causes people to resort to crime and drugs. And the police care less about black on black crime compared to white people as victims so it's easier for the criminals to prey on the black community.

Banks give trouble to black people even to open accounts. Are less likely to give loans for businesses, for school. For homes. And give worse terms when they do.

Start there. Make life better. And crime goes down.
 
Sure.

Poverty caused by systemic racism and general income inequality causes people to resort to crime and drugs. And the police care less about black on black crime compared to white people as victims so it's easier for the criminals to prey on the black community.

Banks give trouble to black people even to open accounts. Are less likely to give loans for businesses, for school. For homes. And give worse terms when they do.

Start there. Make life better. And crime goes down.
How about black parents teach their children to respect authority, attend classes, go to university, get a good job and lead a productive life? Oh right. That would be taking personal responsibility and that goes against the 'we're poor victims narrative'. Successful black families must be so insulted by this bullshit narrative. It's insulting.
 
How about black parents teach their children to respect authority, attend classes, go to university, get a good job and lead a productive life? Oh right. That would be taking personal responsibility and that goes against the 'we're poor victims narrative'. Successful black families must be so insulted by this bullshit narrative. It's insulting.
So you are stating that you are the official voice of "successful black families" now?
 
Successful black families must be so insulted by this bullshit narrative. It's insulting.
So you are stating that you are the official voice of "successful black families" now?
What? Go easy on the drugs, ok?
So are you a black man speaking for black families or a white man projecting your white perceptions of a black man speaking as the official voice of black families?

Are you or have you ever been part of a minstrel show?
 
So are you a black man speaking for black families or a white man projecting your white perceptions of a black man speaking as the official voice of black families?

Are you or have you ever been part of a minstrel show?
Dude, seriously. you might want to wean off whatever you're smoking or injecting or ingesting. Seriously.
 
How about black parents teach their children to respect authority, attend classes, go to university, get a good job and lead a productive life? Oh right. That would be taking personal responsibility and that goes against the 'we're poor victims narrative'. Successful black families must be so insulted by this bullshit narrative. It's insulting.

Have you seen what the state of university education is in the USA? First the cost is outrageous. Then you have the admissions process. You think that scandal is unique? It's rampant. The college's have endowments larger than some GDP's. And are Grindhouses for sports money makers while screwing over students.

How the hell is a kid for an inner city ever going to get out when the schools are so shit because it's local property taxes that fund them. Badly. And no jobs that will ever pay enough for school.

But they happily send army recruiters in. Right? Another way to keep poor people down.
 
And it deserves a response.

What you refuse to acknowledge it Trump's dismissal of protesters concerns and iron fist tactics is the major reason why these anti-racism protests went from people marching with signs to people throwing rocks or firebombs.
There is no justification for a protest to turn violent. Period
The second that happens they piss all over heir own cause.
You should know better
 
Have you seen what the state of university education is in the USA? First the cost is outrageous. Then you have the admissions process. You think that scandal is unique? It's rampant. The college's have endowments larger than some GDP's. And are Grindhouses for sports money makers while screwing over students.

How the hell is a kid for an inner city ever going to get out when the schools are so shit because it's local property taxes that fund them. Badly. And no jobs that will ever pay enough for school.

But they happily send army recruiters in. Right? Another way to keep poor people down.
It's just excuse after excuse. It is done every day. People of all races and backgrounds who with the help and guidance of good parents bust their asses to make a better life for themselves. The message to certain communities that they just can't get it done is so insulting. They have brains. They can develop a healthy work ethic. They can go on to better lives. But the real change, at the end of the day, will have to come from their community.
 
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What you refuse to acknowledge it Trump's dismissal of protesters concerns and iron fist tactics is the major reason why these anti-racism protests went from people marching with signs to people throwing rocks or firebombs.

lol. You’re watching too much CNN. They were throwing rocks and firebombs for 51 straight days before the Feds came to Portland.
 
How about black parents teach their children to respect authority, attend classes, go to university, get a good job and lead a productive life?

By that you mean stop questioning systematic racism, right?

Trump's america.

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It's just excuse after excuse. It is done every day. People of all races and backgrounds who with the help and guidance of good parents bust their asses to make a better life for themselves. The message to certain communities that they just can't get it done is so insulting. They have brains. They can develop a healthy work ethic. They can go on to better lives. But the real change, at the end of the day, will have to come from their community.

Systemic racism is not an excuse. It's the core problem.
 
There is no justification for a protest to turn violent. Period
The second that happens they piss all over heir own cause.
You should know better
I agree.

You completely miss the point though that according to US doctrine, Trump should have said a few nice things to appease the protesters and let the movement die out. Instead he unnecessarily sent in the troops which that same doctrine says leads to violent protests. Just another case where Trump ignored what the experts said in favour of his ego based electoral campaign.
 
It's just excuse after excuse. It is done every day. People of all races and backgrounds who with the help and guidance of good parents bust their asses to make a better life for themselves. The message to certain communities that they just can't get it done is so insulting. They have brains. They can develop a healthy work ethic. They can go on to better lives. But the real change, at the end of the day, will have to come from their community.
I'm sure that if you were born in an area with endemic poverty, had parents who had to work multiple jobs and were hardly at home, needed to get your own jobs during school to help the family pay the bills while also helping care for younger children, went to massively underfunded schools where they struggled to keep teachers, and faced systematic discrimination based on your skin colour, you would find it easy to escape poverty.

And sorry to burst your racialized bubble but poor whites have many of the same barriers keeping them from escaping poverty. Only difference is Bubba Rae from West Virginia can put on a suit and tie, speak like he was from New York and fake his way around it.
 
I agree.
You completely miss the point though that according to US doctrine,
No you missed the point
Trump should have said a few nice things to appease the protesters and let the movement die out.
You mean like the mayor of Seattle or any of the other democrat leaders who threw the police under the bus by agreeing to defund the police?
How did that work for them?
Not so well

You do not seem to get that fact that there are anarchists in these mobs who will not be appeased
Only a fool wold be willing to appease anarchist by hobbling their law enforcement

Two days of non violent protests makes the point
Two months of violence is anarchists trying to destroying civilization


Instead he unnecessarily sent in the troops which that same doctrine says leads to violent protests.
Just another case where Trump ignored what the experts said in favor of his ego based electoral campaign.

Hold on, I was led to believe these protests were about BLM , then some other loonie says the protests are about social inequality, economic inequality, social justice and law enforcement reform.
A third indicated it was about removing white privilege.
A fourth said it was about a revolution
Now you are saying these are all about Trump?

That is quite the laundry list of demands the loonie left have there

Pick a cause, protest peacefully and you might make some progress
Oh Bye the way, get rid of the anarchist or your cause(s) are doomed for failure
 
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