Peaceful Protests

If only black people would stop killing black people. Now that would really do wonders for the black community.
Yes.

I know it doesn't fit your mindset but the violence has tended to come when police and Trump's secret army has pushed the iron fist tactics. A couple minor statements of appeasement and they could have let this movement die out but instead Trump trying to act macho with a militaristic response has completely backfired (as everyone in the military knew it would).
Lol
 
If only black people would stop killing black people. Now that would really do wonders for the black community.

Lol
No more than if white people stopped killing white people. Every group mostly kills people in its own group because that is who they know. But a generalized end to all violence is beyond the scope of what is being discussed here.
 
Yes.

I know it doesn't fit your mindset but the violence has tended to come when police and Trump's secret army has pushed the iron fist tactics. A couple minor statements of appeasement and they could have let this movement die out but instead Trump trying to act macho with a militaristic response has completely backfired (as everyone in the military knew it would).

To be fair, John LaRue just might be very young. Those of us who lived through real violent riots have a different perspective. Yes, he is falling for propaganda and such, but without a baseline to check it against, can we really expect better from him?
 
No more than if white people stopped killing white people. Every group mostly kills people in its own group because that is who they know. But a generalized end to all violence is beyond the scope of what is being discussed here.
No more than? Lol. Keep wearing the blinders. Ignorance is bliss. Blacks kill blacks by the thousands every single day.
 
No more than? Lol. Keep wearing the blinders. Ignorance is bliss. Blacks kill blacks by the thousands every single day.

And whites kill whites. That's just the way it is. People kill the people near them.
 
And whites kill whites. That's just the way it is. People kill the people near them.
If you want to play the let's pretend game I guess I will too. It's sort of fun I guess. Let's pretend blacks don't commit a disproportionate amount of crime then. Good times.

 
Yes.

I know it doesn't fit your mindset but the violence has tended to come when police and Trump's secret army has pushed the iron fist tactics. A couple minor statements of appeasement and they could have let this movement die out but instead Trump trying to act macho with a militaristic response has completely backfired (as everyone in the military knew it would).
Watch the Chicago Police video
That was a planned, well co-ordinated (almost military like) attack by protesters on police.
The police definitely did not start that . The police stayed behind the concrete barricades and the mob rushed the police with PVC pipe spears, backpacks full of frozen water bottles and firework mortars.
 
Those of us who lived through real violent riots have a different perspective.

Who did you think you were going to fool with that ?
So your a grizzled veteran of the riots are you?
So why are you posting from your parents basement and not out out on a Saturday night causing violence, chaos and destruction ?
10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Is that not prime civil disobedience time?
Too funny
 
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Who did you think you were going to fool with that ?
So your a grizzled veteran of the riots are you?
So why are you posting from your parents basement and not out out on a Saturday night causing violence, chaos and destruction ?
10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Is that not prime civil disobedience time?
Too funny
Truth be told, rioting is a lot of fun... until the police decides to end the riot. Right now, they treat the rioters with kids glove- a little gas, a few rubber bullets. They're not using water cannons, dogs, no shotguns with birdshot, to trucks ramming the crowds, not even "accidental" killings of the loudest screamers. I understand why, but this will continue for a long time. I guess the residents of those cities don't mind the destruction of their communities.
 
Truth be told, rioting is a lot of fun... until the police decides to end the riot. Right now, they treat the rioters with kids glove- a little gas, a few rubber bullets. They're not using water cannons, dogs, no shotguns with birdshot, to trucks ramming the crowds, not even "accidental" killings of the loudest screamers. I understand why, but this will continue for a long time. I guess the residents of those cities don't mind the destruction of their communities.

Yeah it will be game over when they start using water cannons. It’s game over for violent protests with this tactic.

This

and this

...are key I believe where these protests end up. Looks like the ban is still temporary and could go the way city council want it.

Either it turns into complete lawlessness and anarchy if they take away police powers like in that letter w.r.t. pepper spray. If they get more violent they will need to support the police force with other means to disperse violent protests such as water cannons but knowing media has an agenda to run this will be very difficult...

It just helps Trump to demonstrate this through the actual destruction of society kind of like what happened to CHAZ. Imagine if you lived in those areas or had a business. But he also doesn’t have much choice in the matter because the people that live there are letting it happen and not holding the politicians accountable for abdicating their responsibility to keep citizens safe.
 
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Truth be told, rioting is a lot of fun... until the police decides to end the riot. Right now, they treat the rioters with kids glove- a little gas, a few rubber bullets. They're not using water cannons, dogs, no shotguns with birdshot, to trucks ramming the crowds, not even "accidental" killings of the loudest screamers. I understand why, but this will continue for a long time. I guess the residents of those cities don't mind the destruction of their communities.

This will continue a long time because Trump is a white supremacist and won't give an inch to BLM and rights.
Instead of trying to fix the problems he decided to send in the feds and now there are 'Walls of Moms' popping up in Seattle and California as the protests start expanding again.
Other than Portland they were done, now they are back.

So much winning.

 
Who did you think you were going to fool with that ?
So your a grizzled veteran of the riots are you?
So why are you posting from your parents basement and not out out on a Saturday night causing violence, chaos and destruction ?
10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Is that not prime civil disobedience time?
Too funny

I didn't say I was at the Rodney King riots. I'm saying I'm old enough to remember them. Just using them as an example because you had 60-odd people dead in like 6 days. Millions of dollars on property damage. That was one fucking city. These protests have been in multiple cities for 50 plus days. They are pretty damn peaceful, yes.

Meanwhile, you and Rain up there are fucking rooting for tear gas and water cannons, getting your Bull Connor on, maybe hoping for a MOVE incident as a cherry on the sundae.
 
I didn't say I was at the Rodney King riots. I'm saying I'm old enough to remember them.
You are not the only one to recall that display of civil disobedience.
So you assumed wrong

If you are old enough to remember Rodney King, then you should know better than to advocate for violence

Just using them as an example because you had 60-odd people dead in like 6 days. Millions of dollars on property damage. That was one fucking city.
That was just as stupid as today's riots

These protests have been in multiple cities for 50 plus days. They are pretty damn peaceful, yes.
No!

Watch the Chicago Police video
That was a planned, well co-ordinated (almost military like) attack by protesters on police.

Did you not see what happened in Louisville Kentucky?
Had the police not keep two heavily armed para military groups separated there would have been a race war battle in the streets of Louisville
Both groups were carrying automatic weapons
The violence has got to stop real soon

Meanwhile, you and Rain up there are fucking rooting for tear gas and water cannons, getting your Bull Connor on, maybe hoping for a MOVE incident as a cherry on the sundae.
Stop incorrectly assuming you know what my position is. You get it wrong all the time

How stunned are you?

I have made it perfectly clear, everyone has a right to peacefully protest
The police certainly have a right to defend themselves and they also have have a LEGAL mandate to disperse a violent and destructive crowd.

What part of that simple and clear message are you not understanding ?
 
If only black people would stop killing black people. Now that would really do wonders for the black community.

Lol
And what exactly does your BS have to do with what I posted?


I know it takes a bit to get past ideological blinders but the issue with police/courts and black people is a concern because of the power dynamic. In case you don't get it, here's a simple analogy. A student in class punching another teen is a problem. A teacher punching a student is a major problem since the teacher is in an authority position. That is why a cop killing someone is more concerning than one civilian killing another.
 
Watch the Chicago Police video
That was a planned, well co-ordinated (almost military like) attack by protesters on police.
The police definitely did not start that . The police stayed behind the concrete barricades and the mob rushed the police with PVC pipe spears, backpacks full of frozen water bottles and firework mortars.
And it deserves a response.

What you refuse to acknowledge it Trump's dismissal of protesters concerns and iron fist tactics is the major reason why these anti-racism protests went from people marching with signs to people throwing rocks or firebombs.
 
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And what exactly does your BS have to do with what I posted?


I know it takes a bit to get past ideological blinders but the issue with police/courts and black people is a concern because of the power dynamic. In case you don't get it, here's a simple analogy. A student in class punching another teen is a problem. A teacher punching a student is a major problem since the teacher is in an authority position. That is why a cop killing someone is more concerning than one civilian killing another.
I do get it. You don't get it. This is why the black communities problems will never be solved. You can't have honest conversations about what the real problems are or you're racist or something. You have a couple hundred black people per year killed by the cops, most of them warranted. You have thousands of black people killed by black people every year...just needless crime. Yet we're only allowed to talk about cops killing blacks. It's like you have a gushing jugular and a sprained ankle and we have to focus on putting ice on the ankle to keep the swelling down. Doesn't make sense. You stop all cops killing blacks and you still have thousand upon thousand of deaths in the black community. Talk about blinders.