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Papadopoulos’ Fiancée: George Is Just ‘The First Domino In Russia-Gate’

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Papadopoulos’ Fiancée: George Is Just ‘The First Domino In Russia-Gate’

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December 8, 2017 10:17 am

The fiancee of George Papadopoulos said the former Trump campaign adviser was far more involved in the campaign than Trump and other high-level officials have tried to make it seem.

As the first to publicly defend the former campaign aide since it was revealed that he pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials, Simona Mangiante told ABC News that there are “consistent evidences that he was not a coffee boy.”

Her comments reference remarks made by Trump and former campaign adviser Michael Caputo, who have tried to downplay Papadopoulos’ role in the campaign despite evidence that Trump once called him one of his foreign policy advisers. Mangiante said she decided to speak out to combat those characterizations.

“First of all, I would love George to learn how to make coffee because it’s absolutely out of his skills,” she told ABC in an interview that published Friday. “George is a remarkable young man with incredible experience in the field of energy and oil policies. This experience led him to get into the campaign and to advise the President at only 28-years-old.”

She said Papadopoulos set up meetings “all over the world” and was “constantly in touch with higher level officials in the campaign.” She said she has seen emails between her fiancé and former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who was also charged last week with one count of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials.

“He never took any initiative, as far as I know, unauthorized,” she said. “He never took any initiative without the blessing of the campaign.”

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in October and has agreed to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and whether the Trump campaign colluded with the foreign power to win the election. According to court documents, Papadopoulos was charged for lying about his communications with a professor who had “substantial connections to Russian government officials” and promised to provide “dirt” obtained by the Russians on Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton.

The court records did not identify the professor, but Mangiante identified him as Joseph Mifsud, whom both she and Papadopoulos have worked for in the past. She told ABC News that they met last year after Papadopoulos reached out to her on LinkedIn because of their connection over Mifsud.

“I know (Mifsud) was interested in George because he was working for Trump,” she said.

She said getting interviewed by the FBI caught Papadopoulos “out of the blue” and she thought he didn’t think it was a big deal at the time.

“As soon as he find out that he committed a mistake, he took responsibility for that and he passed to the right side of history, in my view,” she said, adding that she received a subpoena from Mueller on the same day Papadopoulos plead guilty to the FBI. “It was very brave because he has been the first one and he is helping a lot. … I think he has been the first domino in Russia-gate.”

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I'm sure it'll come out in the Mueller investigation, then we'll see if he was a coffee boy or really did have access to policy and inside docs.
 

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Good to see her reveal the lies that Trump and his team are trying to promote. Obviously, her fiance's interactions with the various sources linked to Russia was done with the complete blessings of the Trump team. So unless he was also working as the "coffee boy" at Starbucks, just more lies from Trump's advisors when they try to downplay his role.
 

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Good to see her reveal the lies that Trump and his team are trying to promote. Obviously, her fiance's interactions with the various sources linked to Russia was done with the complete blessings of the Trump team. So unless he was also working as the "coffee boy" at Starbucks, just more lies from Trump's advisors when they try to downplay his role.
Or maybe he was bragging/lying to her about his role. Or is it impossible a 38 year old may have exaggerated his role?

It seems to me anyone who actually did play a larger role got a job. That's the way it usually works. He didn't .
 

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Or maybe he was bragging/lying to her about his role. Or is it impossible a 38 year old may have exaggerated his role?

It seems to me anyone who actually did play a larger role got a job. That's the way it usually works. He didn't .
Those are respectable spins.

I think the next play in the gop playbook is to discredit her. Maybe they can find that she lied to her grade 8 teacher as to why her homework was not done. That would obviously mean that SHE CAN NEVER BE BELIEVED AT ALL FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.
 

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Those are respectable spins.

I think the next play in the gop playbook is to discredit her. Maybe they can find that she lied to her grade 8 teacher as to why her homework was not done. That would obviously mean that SHE CAN NEVER BE BELIEVED AT ALL FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.
I didn't say she was a liar. But young guys will exaggerate to potential spouses about their prospects and career. And she will In love believe him and defend him.

No need to discredit her. She is a good fiance. The investigation though will I expect disappoint her.
 

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So do 71 year old presidents, apparently.
Right.......because becoming an international real estate mogul, having the the #1 show on TV and then becoming President of the USA is a bad career......

Hate for who he is if you like but you can't say he isn't successful....that is the bigger lie.
 

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Right.......because becoming an international real estate mogul, having the the #1 show on TV and then becoming President of the USA is a bad career......

Hate for who he is if you like but you can't say he isn't successful....that is the bigger lie.
He exaggerates crowd size, support and from what we've read, his fortune.
Which could be one of the reasons he won't release his taxes.
 

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He exaggerates crowd size, support and from what we've read, his fortune.
Which could be one of the reasons he won't release his taxes.
Sure. No one said he isn't a braggart. So was Reggie Jackson. But you can't deny the accomplishments of either. The fact they are both jackasses has no bearing on their success.

This refusal to acknowledge it gives him strength. Because to argue it makes the arguer a liar.

I can truthfully say he isn't qualified to be President. But that he has had great success in his life.

And use the exact same sentence and substitute Clinton.

For different reasons mind. But until people stop underestimating him he isn't going anywhere.
 

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Or maybe he was bragging/lying to her about his role. Or is it impossible a 38 year old may have exaggerated his role?

It seems to me anyone who actually did play a larger role got a job. That's the way it usually works. He didn't .
So Trump calling him an excellent guy was a lie in that case.
 

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So Trump calling him an excellent guy was a lie in that case.
Probably. Remember at the time he was scrambling for foreign policy staff and other staff. Praise like that is cheap and in fact goes toward the possibility he thought he was more important than reality.
 

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I didn't say she was a liar. But young guys will exaggerate to potential spouses about their prospects and career. And she will In love believe him and defend him.
I know you didn't go that far, but it is the non-stop apologising, conspiracy theorizing, discrediting, fake newsing etc. etc. It is sickening that not one thing can go by unchallenged, no matter how weak the challenge or how credible the source. (Not necessarily saying that of her in this particular case)
 

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I know you didn't go that far, but it is the non-stop apologising, conspiracy theorizing, discrediting, fake newsing etc. etc. It is sickening that not one thing can go by unchallenged, no matter how weak the challenge or how credible the source. (Not necessarily saying that of her in this particular case)
No I've let several things go. Example would be Roy Moore and Trump support for it. Big mistake i think.

But when It comes to Russia and the characters involved I still believe it's a false narrative. And so any involvement with that subject I'm happy to comment.

As well when I think the coverage is unfair or that the media is wrong I will comment.

It shouldn't be sickening. A healthy democracy involves debate.
 

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Probably. Remember at the time he was scrambling for foreign policy staff and other staff. Praise like that is cheap and in fact goes toward the possibility he thought he was more important than reality.
Do not worry, it will all be revealed when the Mueller investigation takes it's course.
 

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Or maybe he was bragging/lying to her about his role. Or is it impossible a 38 year old may have exaggerated his role?

It seems to me anyone who actually did play a larger role got a job. That's the way it usually works. He didn't .
What happened to your 'draining the swamp' mantra?

It seems that any bit of information that could possibly lead to locating Trump swamp creatures is met with a multitude of attempts to call for diverting the Trump scum pump.
 

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As well when I think the coverage is unfair or that the media is wrong I will comment.

It shouldn't be sickening. A healthy democracy involves debate.
Like the healthy democracy debates Trump and his surrogates engaged and still engage in with their "LOCK HER UP" AND "JAIL THE BITCH" rantings?
 

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No I've let several things go. Example would be Roy Moore and Trump support for it. Big mistake i think.

But when It comes to Russia and the characters involved I still believe it's a false narrative. And so any involvement with that subject I'm happy to comment.

As well when I think the coverage is unfair or that the media is wrong I will comment.

It shouldn't be sickening. A healthy democracy involves debate.
And yet foreign meddling in elections should really be investigated, shouldn't it?
 

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And yet foreign meddling in elections should really be investigated, shouldn't it?
Does this mean you think when western nations interfere they should be held accountable as well?

Because the USA under Clinton did just that in 2010 in Russia. And they failed. But when you take on an ex KGB type that's what you get in return.
 
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