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Our President Does not bow to other leaders

Asterix

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In the video you can see H.I.M. the Tennō Heika come forward and start to extend his hand.
You're obssessing over nothing of consequence. Get over it.
 

Anynym

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A bow or curtsy to a Head of State is done as a show of servitude.

It is not that the U.S. is superior to Japan - it is that it is not subservient to Japan. Or to England, for that matter.

If some choose to voluntarily subjugate themselves to a foreign power as a "sign of respect", that's their choice. It is not for the U.S. to do so.
 

Fred Zed

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It sure as Hell is domestically in the U.S. and in terms of over two centuries of U.S. History as an independent state.

Yet another example of the President’s lack of experience.
Not so. This is quite petty and an attempt by Republications
to distract attention from what the President is trying to achieve during this visit.
Nothing else!
 

blackrock13

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You're obssessing over nothing of consequence. Get over it.
I agree, it's the cons in the US trying to make something out of nothing and obsessing.

Anyone, 'in the know' knows when dealing with IPPs, Internationally Protected Person, there are certain do's and don't. One is you don't touch the Queen, yet she has been touched by many dignitaries over the years, never in malice, but just the same. She offers her hand first. Prime Ministers , First Ladies (Flotus) and Mayors of major metropolitan cities have made that mistake. To her credit and those around her no one gets bent out of shape as is happening here. It's all taken in stride by those who matter and blown out of proportion by those who don't. Get a life.
 

patton

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obama also bowed to the King of Saudi of Arabia. He shok hands with Chavez. Regardless of what you think of Bush what Chavez said about Bush at the UN is uncalled for.
Its all about perception.
A US president should bow to anybody.
Its all about perception. He looks weak.
When Reagen and Gorbachev met in Iceland it was damn cold. Reagen waited outside for Gorbachev in only his suit. Gorbachev was dressed to the most for warmth.
Gorbachev lated commented he knew he was dealing with a tough cookie.
Nobody is scared of Obama and some should be.
 

Aardvark154

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Not so. This is quite petty and an attempt by Republications
to distract attention from what the President is trying to achieve during this visit.
Nothing else!
Fred, you are indeed the big boss here, but respectfully on this matter you are dead wrong! Somehow I don't think of The Los Angeles Times as a bastion of conservatism.

Such an action is unheard of in U.S. History and Diplomatic Precedent.
 

Aardvark154

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I agree, it's the cons in the US trying to make something out of nothing and obsessing.
Blackrock you really don't get it. Neither apparently does the President. Heads of State do not bow to other heads of State.

Particularly so in the U.S. which has two centuries of custom on this point. The Washington Administration (not to mention those since) are spining in their graves.
 

patton

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all Obama does is going around kiss everybodys ass.
In Turkey and Egypt he "apologizes" to Muslims for Americans being who we are.
he is weak.
He dithers.
 

Aardvark154

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As a private person I nod (bow) to the Sovereign and to members of the Royal Family, I would nod to the Emperor of Japan. Were someone stupid enough to make me a Canadian Ambasdor I would nod to Emperors and Kings and their consorts. However, were someone stupid enough to make me a U.S. Ambasador I nod to no one.
 

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Non Issue talk about something serious.

This is the kind of issue the dim latch onto because the other stuff involves actually thinking.
 

patton

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obama also bowed to the King of Saudi of Arabia. He shok hands with Chavez. Regardless of what you think of Bush what Chavez said about Bush at the UN is uncalled for.
Its all about perception.
A US president should bow to anybody.
Its all about perception. He looks weak.
When Reagen and Gorbachev met in Iceland it was damn cold. Reagen waited outside for Gorbachev in only his suit. Gorbachev was dressed to the most for warmth.
Gorbachev lated commented he knew he was dealing with a tough cookie.
Nobody is scared of Obama and some should be.
Should NOT bow to anybody!
 

Aardvark154

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Non Issue talk about something serious.

This is the kind of issue the dim latch onto because the other stuff involves actually thinking.
And you think anything discussed on TERB (other than reviews) is an "issue"? :confused: If it is that important I write a letter or pick up the telephone.
 

Asterix

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Such an action is unheard of in U.S. History and Diplomatic Precedent.
So was Michelle Obama touching the Queen of England when they met. Evidently the Queen wasn't offended, although surprised a bit, and in turn put her arm around Mrs. Obama. Now George sneaking up behind the German Chancellor Angela Merkel and trying to give her a back rub, there's a breach of protocal. Not to mention kind of creepy.
 

Anynym

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So was Michelle Obama touching the Queen of England when they met. Evidently the Queen wasn't offended, although surprised a bit, and in turn put her arm around Mrs. Obama. Now George sneaking up behind the German Chancellor Angela Merkel and trying to give her a back rub, there's a breach of protocal. Not to mention kind of creepy.
Officially, the Queen was not offended. But she also knows that her own response must be above reproach, and so the Queen returned the act of undue familiarity with an act of familiarity.

That the Queen responded well does not mean that it's suddenly appropriate to treat her as you might treat your Aunt Liz.
 

Asterix

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Officially, the Queen was not offended. But she also knows that her own response must be above reproach, and so the Queen returned the act of undue familiarity with an act of familiarity.

That the Queen responded well does not mean that it's suddenly appropriate to treat her as you might treat your Aunt Liz.
Great. Now explain George.
 

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It sure as Hell is domestically in the U.S. and in terms of over two centuries of U.S. History as an independent state.

Yet another example of the President’s lack of experience.
LOL!
Aardie you are either putting us all on, or you are trying to trump JAJA's brainfarts!...:D
 

WoodPeckr

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Blackrock you really don't get it. Neither apparently does the President. Heads of State do not bow to other heads of State.

Particularly so in the U.S. which has two centuries of custom on this point. The Washington Administration (not to mention those since) are spining in their graves.
You're just whining, carping, bellyaching like cons do at ANYTHING done by the other side of the aisle......your SOP!....:rolleyes:
 

danmand

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The horror of it all. Michelle touches the queen, and Barack bows to
the emperor. The Humanity.

That is what you yanks get for electing a black president.
 
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