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Ontario is being ripped off within Canada

slowpoke

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This article is a bit of an eye opener for those, like myself, who assumed that Ontario operates on a reasonably level playing field. I was ready to accept
some minor disparities in comparison with the rest of the country but this is crazy!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...case-for-seceding-from-canada/article6296852/

..."If it were simply a question of dollars and cents, Ontario should separate from Canada, now.

This is emphatically not the conclusion of a new report by the Ontario Chamber of Commerce on the punishment that Ottawa inflicts on Canada’s economic heartland.
But so damning is the evidence contained in that report that the sentiment is hard to suppress.

A copy of “A Federal Agenda for Ontario”, released Thursday, was provided in advance to The Globe and Mail.

It details the manifold ways in which federal policies punish Ontario workers and the Ontario economy.

‘Twas ever thus, but at least in the past Ontario was wealthy enough to bear the burden. No more.

“Ontario needs to think of how it can reinvent itself and reinvent its economy,” Allan O’Dette, president of the Ontario Chamber of Commerce, said in an interview.

The province, he maintains, cannot retool its manufacturing industries, retrain its work force and renew its infrastructure while spending billions each year to prop up other regions of the country.

“We need to think of a more modern and appropriate approach” to the federal-provincial fiscal arrangement, he maintained.

Consider a few of the ways in which the federal government robs the goose that is no longer golden (the data is taken from the OCC report):

• Even though the unemployment rate in Ontario is almost a full percentage point above the national average, and has been for years, EI rules make it harder for Ontario workers to qualify for benefits than workers in any other province. Every year, Ontario workers contribute $1.2-billion more to EI than they receive in benefits.

• Although Ontario hosts 42 per cent of all the unemployed workers in Canada, it receives only 28 per cent of federal labour market development funds.

• Ontario has the largest aboriginal population of any province. Inadequate federal funding (an annual shortfall of $100-million, in Ontario’s case) contributes to substandard on-reserve elementary schools. “The underfunding of on-reserve elementary schools often means that students arrive at the secondary level with acute remedial needs,” the report observes.

• Despite high unemployment, Ontario suffers from an acute shortage of skilled labour. Immigration could fill the gap, but Ontario’s share of economic-class immigrant intake has plummeted over the last decade from 90,000 annually to 37,000. Yet Ontario is permitted only 5 per cent of the skilled workers each province may recruit under the Provincial Nominee Program.

• Federal infrastructure funding discriminates against Ontario. Ottawa’s Building Canada Plan underfunds Ontario by $970-million, which is what the province would receive on a per-capita basis.

• Ontario receives $19.20 per capita in economic development funding annually. Quebec receives $37.16. Atlantic Canada receives $134.88.

• Because of high unemployment and slow growth, Ontario now receives federal equalization funding. However Ontario taxpayers contribute $2.7-billion more each year to the equalization program than the province gets back.

Citing the Drummond Report, the Chamber concludes that Ontario contributes $12.3-billion more to the federal government than it receives in transfers, even though 600,000 Ontarians are out of work, little economic growth is expected over the foreseeable future, and the provincial debt is approaching $300-billion.

Of course, the ledger isn’t entirely one-sided. Ottawa and Ontario both contributed massive sums to rescuing the province’s auto sector during the recession. The two governments co-operated in creating a harmonized sales tax, and both are trying, thus far without success, to convince the rest of the country of the need for a national securities regulator.

But as a cold hard calculation, Ontario has a much better economic case for seceding from Canada than Quebec ever will.

Of course that will never happen. Nor does the Chamber recommend any such thing. Instead, the report calls for “federal public policies that reflect the new reality of the Canadian economy.”

As Mr. O’Dette puts it: “It is absolutely in the collective best interest of Canada for Ontario to prosper.”

But prosperity will prove elusive, unless $12-billion that flows out of Ontario annually is used at home – to retrain unemployed workers, to expand public transit in Greater Toronto and to supply the needed roads, energy and Internet without which Northern Ontario’s Ring of Fire, touted as the most promising Canadian mining development in a century, will never reach its full potential.

The federal and provincial finance ministers are meeting on Sunday. Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty used to be Ontario’s finance minister. He knows these numbers. Now, thanks to the Ontario Chamber of Commerce, voters in his Ontario riding of Whitby-Oshawa can know them too.

The unemployment rate in Oshawa is 8.5 per cent."
 

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The article implys that these federal imbalances date to when Flaherty was in provincial politics and Chretien was Prime Minister. Since this is the first we hear of it I'm guessing there is quite a bit more to it.
 

slowpoke

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The article implys that these federal imbalances date to when Flaherty was in provincial politics and Chretien was Prime Minister. Since this is the first we hear of it I'm guessing there is quite a bit more to it.
It isn't really the first time these inequities have been mentioned but the article gave us a clearer picture of the total situation than (I think) we had before. And there is more to it - Ontario was holding its own before the recession (when the CDN dollar was pegged at about $.65 US). While we were a "have" province we could afford to prop up many of the other provinces. But that was then and this is now. The penalty being imposed on Ontario has become so much more lopsided that it is now unacceptable and the ON government should be raising holy hell about it. Ottawa is killing us.
 

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Consider Alberta's case....

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omegaphallic

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Its the corporate tax cuts that are killing Ontario as well as Dutch Disease, a dollar that needs to be driven down to increase competiveness, and a kick in the nuts to corporations to spend more on research and productivity.

The rich and corporations are sitting on Billions of dollars, dead money.

Its easy for the rich and thier minions to turn one province against another while they drain Canada dry.
 

james t kirk

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Canada is THEE greatest country in the world. Bar none.

This is the price we pay.

It would be far worse if we were part of the United States, so count your blessings.
 

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Its the corporate tax cuts that are killing Ontario as well as Dutch Disease, a dollar that needs to be driven down to increase competiveness, and a kick in the nuts to corporations to spend more on research and productivity.

The rich and corporations are sitting on Billions of dollars, dead money.

Its easy for the rich and thier minions to turn one province against another while they drain Canada dry.
Go to sleep Thomas, only the intellectually challanged are buying this rhetoric. Dead money ? That's a new one. Do you post this in response to every fiscal thread because it's the only part of the mantra that you have memorized so far?
 

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Here's another article about how ON is getting screwed. I hope our provincial government starts making waves about this because Ottawa won't do anything about it until it becomes an issue with ON voters.


http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...-is-big-loser-in-broken-equalization-program/

Kelly McParland: Report says Ontario is big loser in broken equalization program

"If Ontario’s Liberal leadership hopefuls were looking for material to spice up their race — calling it a snoozer so far would be an understatement — there’s an issue out there waiting to be seized. And they wouldn’t even have to criticize Dalton McGuinty.

The Mowat Centre for Policy Innovation, which calls itself “Ontario’s Voice on Public Policy”, will release a report Friday describing just how badly Ontario gets hosed by Canada’s equalization program.

Equalization is the federal system of redistribution that ensures “have not” provinces are able to provide the same levels of services as “have” provinces. (The Mowat Centre, by the way, doesn’t like either term and wants to get rid of them, arguing all provinces are well off and the differences are just relative).

Though Ontario began receiving equalization money several years ago, and now gets the second-biggest annual cheque after Quebec, it is in no way a “have not” province, argues Mowat’s Matthew Mendelsohn. In fact, because of the structure of the program, it continues to contribute “disproportionately,” sending money off to support social programs in other provinces even as it runs a record deficit and struggles to keep up its own levels of service.

The situation “is not sustainable for Ontario and is not in keeping with the most basic understanding of equity, “ Mendelsohn writes. Rather than support equality, it “undermines Ontario’s ability to provide comparable levels of public services … and also undermines its ability to make capital investments that will ensure its future prosperity.”

There are several problems with the program, as Mendelsohn sees it. The biggest is that it is no longer matched to the realities of Canada’s economic make-up. Alberta, with its oil wealth, is Canada’s richest. But natural resources are owned by the provinces and not redistributed to other provinces (Ottawa tried once, via the National Energy Program, and Alberta still hasn’t forgiven it). Instead, the money for equalization comes “disproportionately” from Ontario corporate, personal and consumption taxes, says the report. And since Ontario has 40% of the population, it ends up contributing far more to the kitty than it gets back. Although its equalization income this year tops $3.2 billion this year, it gets the lowest payout per capita of the seven recipient provinces. (Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick are the highest).

While resource money isn’t counted for equalization, resource wealth does define which provinces are best off. This gap in “fiscal capacity” (the term Ottawa uses to describe the provinces’ relative prosperity) decides which provinces get equalization. So while oil wealth determines the size of the gap between provinces, it’s not directly included in narrowing it.

“The current system is failing to do what it is supposed to do—and it is failing Ontario in particular,” says Mendelsohn. Canada’s fiscal arrangements “are no longer consistent with Canadian realities. They fail their most basic tests. They do not consistently allocate more federal money to less prosperous provinces than to more prosperous ones, and they don’t come anywhere close to ensuring that all provinces have comparable ability to provide public services.”

He says the system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, and offers several suggestions (which don’t include trying to siphon off resource income). But while the provinces often squawk, only Ottawa can make the changes. It won’t, of course, unless it feels enough pressure to do so, which suggests Ontario should be making as much noise as possible, especially given its precarious political situation. The province has a minority government led by a tired Liberal party that has been in power for nine years and is about to get a new leader and premier. Seven candidates are seeking the job, but if there’s a serious competition going on, they’re keeping it well hidden. “Debates” so far have been mild-mannered and excessively polite, perhaps because most of the candidates sit in the same cabinet and want to remain friends (and employed) after the winner is announced. No one wants to be rude, or suggest anything more than a little tweaking is needed to get good old Ontario back on its feet. Nor do they want to criticize Dalton McGuinty, since he’s the one who gave them their jobs (and whose policies they’ve been obediently supporting).

Perhaps a fight over equalization is just what they need. The issue is complex and can be hard to explain, which is why simplified terms like “have” and “have not” get used. It might also upset the other provinces, which fear a better deal for Ontario means a worse deal for them. But it’s an anchor on what should be one of the country’s most vibrant economies, and would let candidates complain about the poor state of the economy while accepting none of the blame, and promise big changes without having to repudiate anything they’ve done so far.

Better yet, it would let them campaign against Ottawa, which is run by Conservatives rather than fellow Liberals. So what’s stopping them?"

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