Ontario bans safe consumption sites near schools and childcare centres, 5 in Toronto to close

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They should've thought about that when they opened. Good thing is that people didn't die of overdose. Open them in a industrial area.


The Ontario government has announced new restrictions on supervised drug consumption sites, including a ban on the sites within 200 metres of schools and childcare centres, which will lead to the closure of 10 facilities.

The new provincial restrictions will include addiction recovery supports with new treatment hubs, called Homelessness and Addiction Recovery
Treatment (HART) Hubs, that will add up to 375 highly supportive housing units, in addition to addiction recovery and treatment beds.

Ontario’s Health Minister Sylvia Jones made the announcement at a press conference on Tuesday afternoon.

The government is also mandating new protections to better protect communities near currently active sites, including new requirements for safety and security plans.

There are currently 17 provincially regulated consumption sites in the province. Ten of them are in Toronto, and most of those are downtown.

The 10 sites that will have to close due to the new rules include five in Toronto and one in Ottawa, Kitchener, Thunder Bay, Hamilton and Guelph.

“We need to do more to protect public safety, especially for young school children, while helping people get the treatment they need, which is why we’re taking the next step to expand access to a broad range of treatment and recovery services, while keeping kids and communities safe,” said Jones in her statement.

Ontario is also introducing legislation that, if passed, prohibits municipalities from requesting the decriminalization of illegal drugs from the federal government.

The legislation would also prohibit municipalities or any organization from setting up new consumption sites or participating in federal so-called “safer” supply initiatives.

Toronto is among the municipalities which have requested Health Canada decriminalize the possession of small amounts of certain illegal drugs, including heroin, fentanyl, cocaine and methamphetamine.

Toronto Medical Officer of Health Dr. Eileen De Villa responded to the new restrictions, saying they are currently reviewing the announcement and “considering the details to fully understand its implications for Toronto Public Health and Toronto residents.”

She added Toronto continues to be in the midst of a drug toxicity epidemic and rates of drug toxicity overdose remain high and TPH’s recommendations on reducing harms associated with substance use are aligned with the Ontario Chief Medical Officer of Health.

“Toronto Public Health remains committed and ready to pursue collaborative approaches to address this critical and urgent health issue,” read Dr. De Villa’s statement.

Jones’ announcement follows two reviews of the sites that the government ordered in the wake of the killing of a Toronto woman, who was hit by a stray bullet from a shooting near one of the sites.

Karolina Huebner-Makurat had been walking through her Leslieville neighbourhood, where one of the city’s safe-injection sites is located, shortly after noon on July 7, 2023, when she was shot as a fight broke out between three alleged drug dealers.

Several arrests have since been made in connection to her death. The South Riverdale Community Health Centre (SRCHC) confirmed with CityNews that one of the individuals charged in the shooting, 23-year-old Khalila Zara Mohammed, was employed as a health worker at the time.

These sites aim to reduce the harm associated with drug use, such as overdose deaths, the spread of infectious diseases, and public drug use. The centres also often offer drug testing, clean supplies to prevent disease spread, and referrals to detox or treatment facilities.

Toronto’s Parkdale neighbourhood is home to two supervised injection sites. Some residents who spoke with 680News Radio expressed their concerns ahead of Tuesday’s announcement.

“Some stealing and minor assaults here and there. Some yelling,” one resident said. “Some injections in front of my face.”

“They’re rowdy; they steal,” said another resident.

Premier Doug Ford has pulled funding from some supervised consumption sites and, in 2018, said he was “dead against” them. Ford has also previously indicated in past comments that changes to these sites are needed, referencing them as a haven for drug dealers.

Safe consumption sites are often located in areas with high rates of drug use, and on-site staff are trained to recognize the signs of overdose and are equipped with naloxone.

Proponents of the public sites say one of the primary advantages is their ability to reduce fatal overdoses. In contrast, others argue that the sites send the wrong message about drug use, normalizing it instead of encouraging people to quit.

 
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Between this and calling out Hahn for his anti-Semitism, Ford actually did a couple of good things in the last day or two,

Like I've said, nobody is always right and nobody is always wrong, even Ford.
 

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Between this and calling out Hahn for his anti-Semitism, Ford actually did a couple of good things in the last day or two,

Like I've said, nobody is always right and nobody is always wrong, even Ford.
Well nobody's perfect, but likely better than Crombie that I haven't heard of since she got elected or Styles.
 

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Between this and calling out Hahn for his anti-Semitism, Ford actually did a couple of good things in the last day or two,

Like I've said, nobody is always right and nobody is always wrong, even Ford.
one of my Sbs is absolutely livid over this closure and says she hates Ford for not having sympathy for the addicts. incidentally she is also pro-Pali.

This generation with their idiotic empathy for useless underdogs is so fucked up.
 
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Stupid move that was opposed by his own advisors. I appreciate the plan to increase addiction recovery but all the closings will do is move the junkies from supervised sites to back alleys and people's driveways. The statement about being near schools and daycares sounds great but in downtown, that eliminates entire communities (there were graphics posted when similar language was suggested for dispensaries).

And yes, I live right by a safe injection site and the site has made the area better. Putting an injection site in the middle of nowhere would be better but it's not like junkies are going to travel an hour from whatever low cost housing they've been able to find to get their fix, they'll just do it wherever they can hide for a couple minutes.
 
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Good.

Ford won't lose a single vote over this. In fact, he will gain a pile of votes.

Toronto has been declining for at least 10 years if not more. And I blame the normalization of drug use. These "safe injection sites" or whatever they call them now are a scourge on society and the entire experiment is an abysmal failure. The statistics with respect to the number of overdose deaths prove that without a doubt, the problem is getting continually worse. I'm all for helping drug users get clean, helping them learn skills to be able to support themselves, etc. But prescribing them free drugs and giving them some government institutions to get high just isnt working.

It's about time the government started prioritizing and protecting the rights of hard working tax paying citizens.
 

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Stupid move that was opposed by his own advisors. I appreciate the plan to increase addiction recovery but all the closings will do is move the junkies from supervised sites to back alleys and people's driveways. The statement about being near schools and daycares sounds great but in downtown, that eliminates entire communities (there were graphics posted when similar language was suggested for dispensaries).

And yes, I live right by a safe injection site and the site has made the area better. Putting an injection site in the middle of nowhere would be better but it's not like junkies are going to travel an hour from whatever low cost housing they've been able to find to get their fix, they'll just do it wherever they can hide for a couple minutes.
Do you feel that having a facility that will attract junkies that is in the vicinity of schools poses any potential of danger to young children and/or teens? And how do you weigh that vs. what is best for the addicts?
 

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Between this and calling out Hahn for his anti-Semitism, Ford actually did a couple of good things in the last day or two,

Like I've said, nobody is always right and nobody is always wrong, even Ford.
The old saying: "even a broken clock is right twice a day".
 

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Good.

Ford won't lose a single vote over this. In fact, he will gain a pile of votes.

Toronto has been declining for at least 10 years if not more. And I blame the normalization of drug use. These "safe injection sites" or whatever they call them now are a scourge on society and the entire experiment is an abysmal failure. The statistics with respect to the number of overdose deaths prove that without a doubt, the problem is getting continually worse. I'm all for helping drug users get clean, helping them learn skills to be able to support themselves, etc. But prescribing them free drugs and giving them some government institutions to get high just isnt working.

It's about time the government started prioritizing and protecting the rights of hard working tax paying citizens.
Two points, captain.

1) DoFo instead allowed corner store booze sales at 7/11's within 200 metres of these same parks.
2) Under DoFo service cuts, homeless went from 20k to 234,000.

 

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^^^ Doug Ford hasn't cut a single god damn thing. Each one of his budgets has been record spending and frankly I'm pissed off about that. I voted for him because I expected him to come in there and dial back the out of control government spending. Instead he's increased it across the board.

As to the homeless numbers, talk to your buddy the sock puppet in Ottawa. He's the one who has destroyed the Canadian economy with taking our debt from 600 billion to 1.4 trillion and for what? And he's the asshole who has normalized drug use.

I don't drink so I don't give a fuck where they sell booze.
 

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Stupid move that was opposed by his own advisors. I appreciate the plan to increase addiction recovery but all the closings will do is move the junkies from supervised sites to back alleys and people's driveways. The statement about being near schools and daycares sounds great but in downtown, that eliminates entire communities (there were graphics posted when similar language was suggested for dispensaries).

And yes, I live right by a safe injection site and the site has made the area better. Putting an injection site in the middle of nowhere would be better but it's not like junkies are going to travel an hour from whatever low cost housing they've been able to find to get their fix, they'll just do it wherever they can hide for a couple minutes.

Giving junkies free drugs attract crime and drug dealers and does not help addicts
 
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^^^ Doug Ford hasn't cut a single god damn thing. Each one of his budgets has been record spending and frankly I'm pissed off about that. I voted for him because I expected him to come in there and dial back the out of control government spending. Instead he's increased it across the board.

As to the homeless numbers, talk to your buddy the sock puppet in Ottawa. He's the one who has destroyed the Canadian economy with taking our debt from 600 billion to 1.4 trillion and for what? And he's the asshole who has normalized drug use.

I don't drink so I don't give a fuck where they sell booze.
DoFo has cut health care and announced he'll cut $21 billion more, he's cut education as well.
But he's contrasted that by cutting revenue even more, corporate taxes, license plates, LCBO, so ends up with way bigger debts than Wynne for way less of what Ontario needs.

His main interest has been in giving away Ontario assets to donors.
Greenbelt
Ontario Place
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LCBO
 

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^^^ Doug Ford hasn't cut a single god damn thing. Each one of his budgets has been record spending and frankly I'm pissed off about that. I voted for him because I expected him to come in there and dial back the out of control government spending. Instead he's increased it across the board.

As to the homeless numbers, talk to your buddy the sock puppet in Ottawa. He's the one who has destroyed the Canadian economy with taking our debt from 600 billion to 1.4 trillion and for what? And he's the asshole who has normalized drug use.

I don't drink so I don't give a fuck where they sell booze.
Doug has increased spending but he has put that money to better use then the liberals or NDP ever could.
He has increased health care spending and has invested in building new hospitals. Allowed private clinics to do cataract, hip and knee replacement surgeries to try and relive the wait times.
This province would be a fucking mess if the liberals were still in power.

As for the Federal liberals......why would anyone even consider voting for them?
 
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Doug has increased spending but he has put that money to better use then the liberals or NDP ever could.
He has increased health care spending and has invested in building new hospitals. Allowed private clinics to do cataract, hip and knee replacement surgeries to try and relive the wait times.
This province would be a fucking mess if the liberals were still in power.

As for the Federal liberals......why would anyone even consider voting for them?
Really?

How do you even come up with that stuff?
Under DoFo Ontario spends the least per capita of any province.
He drove out nurses with Bill 124 then had to spend billions in settlement, then he declares the settlement as health care spending.
ER wait times are crazy, ER closures are regular and family doctors are going out of business.
The privatized services cost the province more and don't lower wait times.

He's closed more hospitals than announced, and the new announcements are for builds a decade away.
 

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Govt trap houses are a scandal that should land their advocates in prison for the violence, death and destruction they have brought to innocent communities.

This topic is probably the one that makes me most certain that politicians and their media advocates are evil people who want to make life worse for everyone.

They’ll interview a social worker who’s salary depends on these trap houses existing (I’m referring explicitly to CP24 here) and call her an expert, but they’ll dismiss the concerns of the people who are forced to live with the consequences of these drug dens as simple minded reactionaries who want to kill “vulnerable populations”.

It’s disgusting gaslighting and is actively radicalizing me against the media. We don’t hate them enough.
 
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Govt trap houses are a scandal that should land their advocates in prison for the violence, death and destruction they have brought to innocent communities.

This topic is probably the one that makes me most certain that politicians and their media advocates are evil people who want to make life worse for everyone.

They’ll interview a social worker who’s salary depends on these trap houses existing (I’m referring explicitly to CP24 here) and call her an expert, but they’ll dismiss the concerns of the people who are forced to live with the consequences of these drug dens as simple minded reactionaries who want to kill “vulnerable populations”.

It’s disgusting gaslighting and is actively radicalizing me against the media. We don’t hate them enough.
City TV and CP24 are committed to being the news networks for Toronto's left. They are even left of the CBC!
 

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Giving junkies free drugs attract crime and drug dealers and does not help addicts
Good thing they don't. They just provide a supervised space where they can inject so people aren't found ODed in the morning by a kid walking to school.
 

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Do you feel that having a facility that will attract junkies that is in the vicinity of schools poses any potential of danger to young children and/or teens? And how do you weigh that vs. what is best for the addicts?
Those sites that are closing are within 200 m of a school or daycare already. That's where Ford licensed them. But as I said, much of downtown is withing 200 m of a school or daycare. The location for the sites was chosen because those were areas where the addicts were, likely due to more affordable places to live so all that closing the sites will do is move the junkies back to the shadows.

And as I've said, I have been living right by one of these sites ( I assume it will be closing) and there is a difference since it opened; fewer needles spread around the neighbourhood and fewer addicts trying to hide behind buildings.
 

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Good thing they don't. They just provide a supervised space where they can inject so people aren't found ODed in the morning by a kid walking to school.

Adam Zivo: Supervised injection sites fuel crime unless accompanied by massive police presence
The increase in violent crime and public disorder that follows supervised consumption sites must be tamed

 
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