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Omar Khadre
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Its pretty easy to place the blame on the west for their lot in life, It gives them something to channel their anger and bitterness towards.
Of course, the Quebecois in Quebec blames everything bad on "maldit Anglais". The Nazis blamed the Jews. Fuji blames everything bad on the decommissioned IRA.
Really? I could swear that it is the Bush Administration.Of course, the Quebecois in Quebec blames everything bad on "maldit Anglais". The Nazis blamed the Jews. Fuji blames everything bad on the decommissioned IRA.
If you don't live up to those responsibilities there are consequences, I just want to extend the consequences to removing the privilidge of Canadian citizenship from people who do not live up to the responsibilities. Seems reasonble to me, its a two way street we supply you with rights and you live up the reponsibilities.
You still don't get it. If you want to take canadian citizenship away for serious crimes, you have to do it for ALL canadians convicted of serious crimes. Period.
are those pictures really him?
These are a few samples of a series of photos taken on Aug 14, 1998 at Ghazi Stadium in Kabul. The stadium was used by the Taliban for public executions, and on that particular day a convicted murdered was executed by a family member of the man he killed. Also that day was the amputation of the limbs of two convicted robbers. The two men were anesthetized, had their hands & feet cut off by doctors, and the severed limbs where put on display on site for all to see. The Khadr family was known to be in A-stan at this time, living between OBL's compound in Jalalabad and their own place in Kabul. They were considered honoured guests of an honoured guest (in 1998 relations between the Taliban & AQ were pretty cozy, but that'll change in a few years).
At the time of the photos, he was identified only as "a Taliban", but its been confirmed by experts to be him and to be authentic.
Parading around with severed limbs doesn't prove or disprove the case he just pled to......maybe Omar was just running around with those appendages as props for some pranks - "Hey, Fazel, those opium bags look heavy....can I give you a hand? Ha ha ha", or "Lets have a big hand for the man who made tonights show possible". That sort of thing.
So how come all you who are against Omar Kadhr aren't against the soldiers that killed his family. They did the same thing he did you prejudicial douchbags. If he's on trial, the soldiers should be too. If the soldiers aren't on trial, he shouldn't be either. If you dont understand that, well that makes you a hypocritical, prejudicial douchbag.
If he's on trial, the soldiers should be too.
We usually leave that to the Taliban and Al Qaeda although we made an exception for Captain Semrau (arrested and tried for killing an enemy combatant). Allied and Afghan soldiers captured by the Taliban and Al Qaeda are treated much much worse than Khadr, usually ending in a beheading (no plea bargains there).
So at the time of the photo he was just shy of his twelve birthday, surrounded and influenced by a culture that we find abhorrent. Your point is?
No point - I posted some interesting pics of Omar Khadr to an existing thread about Omar Khadr. By coincidence, he pleads guilty to the charges the day after I post these pics. And then, Islandman4567 wanted to know more about the pics, so I gave him the known facts.
I've spent LOTS of time working in different cultures & have never considered any of them abhorrent - some individuals are abhorrent, and some groups or movements are abhorrent, but I'm not there to critique the way people live their lives in their own lands. Afghan culture is extremely different from ours. Hopefully I can help them be safer so that their lives can be free of some of the brutality they've lived with for the past 40 years.
I'd prefer to be able to post more pics of Aussie bikini-babes regardless what TERB policy on picture size is, but I seem to be in the minority on that..............
No point - I posted some interesting pics of Omar Khadr to an existing thread about Omar Khadr. By coincidence, he pleads guilty to the charges the day after I post these pics. And then, Islandman4567 wanted to know more about the pics, so I gave him the known facts.
I've spent LOTS of time working in different cultures & have never considered any of them abhorrent - some individuals are abhorrent, and some groups or movements are abhorrent, but I'm not there to critique the way people live their lives in their own lands. Afghan culture is extremely different from ours. Hopefully I can help them be safer so that their lives can be free of some of the brutality they've lived with for the past 40 years.
You, with your experience, may not view the culture as abhorrent, but I suspect most people on this site and most Canadians, would feel that way. "It is not our way, so it must be wrong." No disrespect, Seth, BUT I doubt you post anything here without a point. And that's a good thing.
On this point I whole heartedly agree - fark the picture size!I'd prefer to be able to post more pics of Aussie bikini-babes regardless what TERB policy on picture size is, but I seem to be in the minority on that..............
I don't understand why we must spend blood and treasure to re-make Afghanistan and Iraq in our image.You, with your experience, may not view the culture as abhorrent, but I suspect most people on this site and most Canadians, would feel that way. "It is not our way, so it must be wrong!
I don't understand why we must spend blood and treasure to re-make Afghanistan and Iraq in our image.
Especially, when the efforts are doomed to failure.
Especially, when the efforts are doomed to failure.
Old Irish proverb: "Do not interfere with alien life. Leave them as you found them."
guess this ends the debate on whether or not the Little Darling threw the bomb that killed the US Soldier.
How so?
You, with your experience, may not view the culture as abhorrent, but I suspect most people on this site and most Canadians, would feel that way. "It is not our way, so it must be wrong." No disrespect, Seth, BUT I doubt you post anything here without a point. And that's a good thing.
On this point I whole heartedly agree - fark the picture size!
No disrespect taken, buddy.
But there was no point being made with the pictures. This thread was all but dead, & by coincidence the pics were revived the day before the plea. Now, the guy who brought the pics to my attention may have had some inside knowledge of the situation there and had a point to make, but I just thought they were interesting pics........and I can't post the Aussie bikini-babe pics anymore.
Now, quite the contrary to lots of speculation of him being forced & having no choice, etc etc, he was getting positive reinforcement to the max for following in his fathers footsteps. The kid revelled in the attention that he was getting, as a favoured son of an important jihadist figure, & the kid was going to be the next generation terrorist. Anyone who doesn't like getting blown up should be thankful the kid was taken out of circulation........what he does with his future is anyones guess, but he might very well again choose to emulate his father (after Canada pulled Dad out of the fire, only to see him jump right back into it again).
Again, him running around with severed limbs shouldn't be used to either prove or disprove the case he pled to. His case was 1 teeny-weeny scenario that received alot more publicity domestically than it deserved because of the Canadian connection; its a non-story in AfPak, Yemen, etc. Omar Khayyam is more newsworthy than Omar Khadr.
FFS people there are 6 separate threads about this guy. It reminds me of the garbage strike last summer.
I wouldn't object to us passing a law saying that someone guilty of high treason against Canada can be exiled, but I want to see it explicitly in law, and something that would be heard by a judge. It should be given similar weight to a sentence of life in prison in terms of the level of legal machinery that should be required to strip someone of their most basic rights.
So how come all you who are against Omar Kadhr aren't against the soldiers that killed his family. They did the same thing he did you prejudicial douchbags. If he's on trial, the soldiers should be too. If the soldiers aren't on trial, he shouldn't be either. If you dont understand that, well that makes you a hypocritical, prejudicial douchbag.
Boo Fuckin Hoo
If you can't see the difference...... fuck never mind......not worth my time.
I wouldn't object to us passing a law saying that someone guilty of high treason against Canada can be exiled, but I want to see it explicitly in law, and something that would be heard by a judge. It should be given similar weight to a sentence of life in prison in terms of the level of legal machinery that should be required to strip someone of their most basic rights.
Dief I like that you are repeating my points verbatim, but I wonder if you have anything of your own to add to it?
I mean you've literally cut and pasted my own words and appended them to the thread without modification. What's up with that?
