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Omar Khadre

blackrock13

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Too much navel gazing Fuji. Below are the 2 choices in the poll.

Yes, he did everything he was convicted of 38 63.33%
No, he's not really guilty of all those charges

There are only 2 choices Fuji. The way that you worded the poll makes it biased to the results that you want.
For example, if I don't believe that he was guilty of everything he was convicted of, then I would have to vote no.
But what if I believe that he was guilty of 90% of the charges? I still have to vote no.
You get it, I get it, and most members get it, but Fuji just doesn't get it.
 

fuji

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But what if I believe that he was guilty of 90% of the charges? I still have to vote no.
Correct, because in that case you still believe he was falsely convicted by an unfair court at least to some extent. The court is either fair or it's not fair. There's no middle ground on that question.

At any rate your statement that both answers assume he's innocent is plainly flat out wrong, and while I'm willing to consider you may have misread the poll earlier, if you fail to retract it now I'm going to accuse you of lying.
 

fuji

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Gosh, I'm sure Slowandeasy is terrified. ;O
I don't know about terrified, but he may care to be seen as an honest poster. He wrote "so that you are forced to admit Kadr's innocence by default?" about a poll that included the option "Yes, he did everything he was convicted of".

Plainly his statement is false. If he wants to retract it I'll accept it as a harmless oversight. If he wants to go on asserting that my poll forces you to admit Khadr is innocent then I am going to correctly identify him as a liar.
 

slowandeasy

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Plainly his statement is false. If he wants to retract it I'll accept it as a harmless oversight. If he wants to go on asserting that my poll forces you to admit Khadr is innocent then I am going to correctly identify him as a liar.
Am I missing something here?
 

fuji

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Am I missing something here?
This is a lie:

Did you notice the poll that Fuji started has only two choices, so that you are forced to admit Kadr's innocence by default?

The poll clearly includes this option:

Yes, he did everything he was convicted

You are lying.
 

blackrock13

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This is a lie:

Did you notice the poll that Fuji started has only two choices, so that you are forced to admit Kadr's innocence by default?

The poll clearly includes this option:

Yes, he did everything he was convicted

You are lying.
Is Fuji talking about himself in third person now?
 

seth gecko

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No clemency for Guantanamo's youngest prisoner

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A Pentagon legal official on Thursday
upheld the eight-year sentence for a Canadian who pleaded guilty to killing a
U.S. soldier, rejecting a defense request for clemency for the youngest prisoner
at Guantanamo Bay.


Omar Khadr entered his guilty plea Oct. 25 to war crimes charges that
included murder for throwing a grenade that mortally wounded the American
soldier in Afghanistan. A military jury at the U.S. base in Cuba recommended a
40-year sentence, but a pretrial agreement limited him to no more than eight
years.


Bruce MacDonald, the Pentagon official in charge of war crimes tribunals,
issued a two-sentence statement confirming the eight-year sentence and rejecting
a defense request to cut the sentence in half. As part of his deal, Khadr, now
24, is to be released from Guantanamo and sent back to his native Canada by Nov.
1.


His Pentagon-appointed defense lawyer, Army Lt. Col. Jon S. Jackson, said he
was disappointed by the decision not to grant clemency but also relieved that
Khadr was found to have met the terms of the pretrial agreement that the case is
now formally over.


"We realize that this has been an extremely difficult case for everyone
involved," Jackson said in an email. "Omar and I want to thank all of the
lawyers, paralegals, and countless others who have supported him through this
case."


In seeking clemency, the defense argued that Khadr's military tribunal
sentencing was tainted by improper witness testimony and prosecution maneuvers.
Military prosecutors denied the allegations.


The Toronto-born Khadr was 15 when captured by U.S. troops after a firefight
in Afghanistan in 2002. His case was among the most highly scrutinized of
Guantanamo prisoners because of his age and the fact that he is the son of a
senior member of al-Qaida who trained him in militancy from an early age.


His supporters argued he deserved leniency because he had been a child
soldier manipulated by his father. Military prosecutors portrayed him as a
dangerous terrorist who admitted planting 10 roadside bombs in Afghanistan as
part of an al-Qaida explosive cell and throwing a grenade that killed a special
forces medic, Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer of Albuquerque, New Mexico.


Khadr is being tutored in a high-security section of the prison so he can
attend college in Canada upon release.


"Omar continues to be focused on the future, his education and repatriation
to Canada," Jackson said
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Aardvark154

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"Khadr is being tutored in a high-security section of the prison so he can
attend college in Canada upon release.

"Omar continues to be focused on the future, his education and repatriation
to Canada."
Do you suppose he wants to study nuclear physics in University? :ballchain:
 

danmand

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danmand

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Seems to me he is a convicted criminal.
In a cangoroo court. Doesn't count.

Canada will give him a fair chance when he eventually returns.
 

CapitalGuy

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He's a murderer. I hope the government can find some way to keep him out of Canada. If they don't, I hope he is killed in prison, the fucking savage.
 

blackrock13

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He's a murderer. I hope the government can find some way to keep him out of Canada. If they don't, I hope he is killed in prison, the fucking savage.
A savage? Hyperboles R Us just called. I told them you were out, my bad. He was found guilty killing five solders in an armed conflict.
 
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