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Olivia Chow wins!

K Douglas

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The reality is the majority of voters voted against chow when you add up the votes for other candidates. Add into that the low voter turn out it means many didn’t vote chow. So those who didn’t vote should not be whining as apathy has repercussions. We will see what happens especially with the financial shortfall. The only response to any whining is a very simple response is “did you vote?” If they didn’t then indirectly they voted for the changes that come. Fiscal reality is something that impacts decisions either taxes and fees will go up or services will be cut. It should be an interesting ride.
Chow got 37% of the vote. When you add up the other 'progressive' candidates (Josh Matlow, Chloe Brown, Anthony Peruzza) it comes out to about 45% of the vote. That means 55% of voters did not vote for that agenda.
That being said Chow has 11 councilors in her corner. Which means 14 aren't. She will need to sway 2 of them to get her agenda passed. We'll see how good of a politician she is I guess.
 
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K Douglas

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I wouldnt put it past her as her and Layton were pulling in 6 figures then yet thought they were entitled to live in subsidized housing.

She has no concept of of running anything and we just have to look south of the border to see how disastrous their large cities have become when run by Democratic Mayors who spend money that isnt there yet crime runs rapport and their cities crumble. She will act like taxpayers money is her slush fund and as she doesn't have a car yet along even a drivers license look out .

I do agree with her that Toronto residents are not paying near enough property taxes relative to other municipalities and for the services they want. No one wants to pay more in taxes but that will have to happen.

Federal /Provincial money will be needed but hopefully there will be strings attached so the rest of the city isnt turned into bike lanes that arent used or the rest of the city parks turned into encampments.

Toronto disproportionately pays more than they receive both Federally and Provincially but she is the wrong Mayor to rectify the situation.

As Winston Churchill said " democracy is the worst form of government -except for all of the other ones that have been tried"

Unfortunately it was ludicrous to have 102 candidates that just split the vote. The answer would be to have the top 2 vote getters Chow and Ana have a run off that would more accurately determine who is the peoples choice as cooler heads would have prevailed as they do it in some European cities bur alas we don't have that in place.
The majority of those 102 candidates got miniscule votes. Only 8 got a vote share of 1% or higher.
 
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K Douglas

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Not sure who that black dude was on CP24 but he needs to learn some history. Chow was not the first woman to be elected Mayor. Both June Rowlands and Barbara Hall were elected in the early 1990's
 

Butler1000

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Big cities have more crime. Nothing to do with left wing or right wing politics. But SF is objectively a wonderful city.
It is actually at the beginning of a doom spiral now. Retail is shutting down on masse. People are leaving as more homeless come in. They have to hose down the city daily for feces. And walk through discarded needles on the street.

 
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Frankfooter

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Chow got 37% of the vote. When you add up the other 'progressive' candidates (Josh Matlow, Chloe Brown, Anthony Peruzza) it comes out to about 45% of the vote. That means 55% of voters did not vote for that agenda.
That being said Chow has 11 councilors in her corner. Which means 14 aren't. She will need to sway 2 of them to get her agenda passed. We'll see how good of a politician she is I guess.
That's more than DoFo got and turnout was higher than for the provincial election.
Suck it up, kirk, the people spoke.

DoFo tried to interfere and should be investigated for his robocalls.
Tory tried to pass the baton on and failed.

The people spoke.
 
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GameBoy27

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Among the best of the good ideas, none of which are in Chow’s platform, is ending closed tendering for municipal contracts, which was proposed both by both Furey and Bradford. A report last month by researchers with Cardus estimated that this year $1.65 billion in infrastructure construction in Toronto is subject to closed tendering, which means only certain unionized companies can bid. Estimates vary as to how much this costs taxpayers, but a midpoint estimate from the City of Hamilton, which recently ended its closed tendering regime, is that by limiting bids to unionized shops it was overpaying for construction by around 27 per cent. This is within the range of existing academic estimates and suggests that this year Toronto’s taxpayers are overpaying for construction by around $350 million. Closed tendering is therefore effectively a $350-million annual welfare gift from the city’s taxpayers to privileged union shops. It is difficult to see how anyone whose goal is not to deliberately waste taxpayers’ money can support such a policy.

Tory didn't have the balls to end this wasteful practice. Now we have Chow who's very union friendly, so there's no chance she'll end this blatant waste of taxpayers money. Instead, she'll raise taxes anywhere and everywhere she can instead of ending closed tendering. At the same time, Ford may tell her to look at efficiencies before simply giving her a handout.

I take it one of her priorities will be proceeding with another wasteful spending plan. Changing the name of Dundas Street.

There's a good chance she may screw things up worse than Tory did. In which case, she may be a single term Mayor come 3 years from now.
 

tml

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Not sure who that black dude was on CP24 but he needs to learn some history. Chow was not the first woman to be elected Mayor. Both June Rowlands and Barbara Hall were elected in the early 1990's
Chow is the first woman to be elected mayor of Toronto since amalgamation. Maybe that's what he meant.
 

Anbarandy

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Chow got 37% of the vote. When you add up the other 'progressive' candidates (Josh Matlow, Chloe Brown, Anthony Peruzza) it comes out to about 45% of the vote. That means 55% of voters did not vote for that agenda.
That being said Chow has 11 councilors in her corner. Which means 14 aren't. She will need to sway 2 of them to get her agenda passed. We'll see how good of a politician she is I guess.
Name these 11 councilors in her corner.

Doug's unilateral cut to the number of wards and city council basically in 1/2 during an ongoing election seems to have run counter to his expectant objective.

Republican style gerrymandering of wards to guarantee his desired results is now not only recommended, but critical to achieving his goals.
 
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y2kmark

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Chow got 37% of the vote. When you add up the other 'progressive' candidates (Josh Matlow, Chloe Brown, Anthony Peruzza) it comes out to about 45% of the vote. That means 55% of voters did not vote for that agenda.
That being said Chow has 11 councilors in her corner. Which means 14 aren't. She will need to sway 2 of them to get her agenda passed. We'll see how good of a politician she is I guess.
Over 100 candidates and she didn't get a majority of votes? Indeed something to ponder...
 

fearoffomo

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Chow got 37% of the vote. When you add up the other 'progressive' candidates (Josh Matlow, Chloe Brown, Anthony Peruzza) it comes out to about 45% of the vote. That means 55% of voters did not vote for that agenda.
That being said Chow has 11 councilors in her corner. Which means 14 aren't. She will need to sway 2 of them to get her agenda passed. We'll see how good of a politician she is I guess.
How convenient you left out the other progressive candidate that came in 6th, Mitzie Hunter. Sorry to say but the progressive vote was larger than the conservative vote this election. Tough for you.

Chow won a plurality of the vote, she's the winner, that's how our system works. We had chance to use ranked ballots but your idol Doug Ford took that away.

Judging by the results of the election however, Chow probably would have taken this election even with a ranked ballot. We'll never know though, shrug.
 
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Frankfooter

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How convenient you left out the other progressive candidate that came in 6th, Mitzie Hunter. Sorry to say but the progressive vote was larger than the conservative vote this election. Tough for you.

Chow won a plurality of the vote, she's the winner, that's how our system works. We had chance to use ranked ballots but your idol Doug Ford took that away.

Judging by the results of the election however, Chow probably would have taken this election even with a ranked ballot. We'll never know though, shrug.
Mike Harris gave us amalgamation to give conservatives wins.
DoFo cut councillor seats in the middle of an election to gain more conservative power.

And still Chow won.
 

glamphotographer

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The reality is the majority of voters voted against chow when you add up the votes for other candidates. Add into that the low voter turn out it means many didn’t vote chow. So those who didn’t vote should not be whining as apathy has repercussions. We will see what happens especially with the financial shortfall. The only response to any whining is a very simple response is “did you vote?” If they didn’t then indirectly they voted for the changes that come. Fiscal reality is something that impacts decisions either taxes and fees will go up or services will be cut. It should be an interesting ride.
The same low voter turnout that got Ford re-elected?

The conservatives gerrymandered Toronto adding Scarborough and Etobicoke so the conservative voters outnumbered the Liberal and NDP voters and Chow still won.
 
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K Douglas

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How convenient you left out the other progressive candidate that came in 6th, Mitzie Hunter. Sorry to say but the progressive vote was larger than the conservative vote this election. Tough for you.

Chow won a plurality of the vote, she's the winner, that's how our system works. We had chance to use ranked ballots but your idol Doug Ford took that away.

Judging by the results of the election however, Chow probably would have taken this election even with a ranked ballot. We'll never know though, shrug.
I don't consider Mitzie Hunter a 'progressive'. She actually has some common sense.
 

Paprika

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Toronto is now literally chow mein city.

Just look at Vancouver, NDP mayor Derek Sim jacked up property tax by 10% then proceeds to tells you he understand "it sucks".

Feel sorry for those poor schmucks who voted for her, when property tax rises, landlords will hike rent, making it even more expensive for them.
 

Darts

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"Chow got 37% of the vote. When you add up the other 'progressive' candidates (Josh Matlow, Chloe Brown, Anthony Peruzza) it comes out to about 45% of the vote. That means 55% of voters did not vote for that agenda.
That being said Chow has 11 councilors in her corner. Which means 14 aren't. She will need to sway 2 of them to get her agenda passed. We'll see how good of a politician she is I guess."

I saw a vote analysis by CP24 (or was it CTV?). Chow got huge number of votes in downtown Toronto and Scarborough. I think she was actually second or lower in the majority of the wards.
 
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