Obnoxious Asshole in Bangkok bar gets knocked out by teenager

[Armagettin]

When in Rome is fine, but a sucker punch is a sucker punch and still nothing to be proud of. It is a cowardly way to handle a situation.

You make my point perfectly. Your statement is made with complete lack of understanding or attempt at understanding the culture.

Most people here are so used to the world revolving around them that they will likely never comprehend the point being made and consequently would never do well living in a foreign culture.

Based on your upbringing, "a sucker punch is a sucker punch." You consider it cowardly. That is only one perspective. Most people in OUR society would agree but it does not mean your perspective is right. It is only right in our society based on what you were taught.

In Thailand, everyone will be against you if you are a belligerent asshole and people are less likely to act as assholes as a result. You will be taken to task by your peers. Before you judge too harshly, this, in some ways, is better than our system where we push every incident into the courts and people are more likely to put up with the inconvenience of poor behaviour.

We have belligerent assholes everywhere because they have the right to be belligerent. It is not nearly as common in Thailand. And no, there are not marauding groups of Thais going around beating people up for the hell of it.

Their culture has been around for a very long time. Remember that they are the only SE Asian country never colonized by the West. Having said that, they have still adopted some Western ideas. We would never do that because we are already perfect.

We would do well to look at their Buddist teaching and adopt some of that. For example - They believe that each person is personally responsible for their own actions and consequences of those actions. Act like a dick and you get your head kicked in, or shunned etc. Simple and elegant way of getting people to act reasonably in a community.

But, no, we are so fucking arrogant that our way is the only way. It is not.

 

[GotGusto]

Lots of cheap shots. He's lucky though, worse could happen in those places. They play by different rules elsewhere.

 

[OddSox]

They believe that each person is personally responsible for their own actions and consequences of those actions. Act like a dick and you get your head kicked in, or shunned etc.

Too bad there isn't more of that here.

There used to be, before 'politically correct' became the norm. Once upon a time, if you were an asshole you got treated like one - no bullshit about who committed assault or whatever...

[EDIT] Before some dogooder steps in - Yes, I believe that shooting it out with six-guns is a perfectly good way of settling an argument. If you're not prepared to back it up, then shut it down.

 

[Cobra Enorme]

You make my point perfectly. Your statement is made with complete lack of understanding or attempt at understanding the culture.

Most people here are so used to the world revolving around them that they will likely never comprehend the point being made and consequently would never do well living in a foreign culture.

Based on your upbringing, "a sucker punch is a sucker punch." You consider it cowardly. That is only one perspective. Most people in OUR society would agree but it does not mean your perspective is right. It is only right in our society based on what you were taught.

In Thailand, everyone will be against you if you are a belligerent asshole and people are less likely to act as assholes as a result. You will be taken to task by your peers. Before you judge too harshly, this, in some ways, is better than our system where we push every incident into the courts and people are more likely to put up with the inconvenience of poor behaviour.

We have belligerent assholes everywhere because they have the right to be belligerent. It is not nearly as common in Thailand. And no, there are not marauding groups of Thais going around beating people up for the hell of it.

Their culture has been around for a very long time. Remember that they are the only SE Asian country never colonized by the West. Having said that, they have still adopted some Western ideas. We would never do that because we are already perfect.

We would do well to look at their Buddist teaching and adopt some of that. For example - They believe that each person is personally responsible for their own actions and consequences of those actions. Act like a dick and you get your head kicked in, or shunned etc. Simple and elegant way of getting people to act reasonably in a community.

But, no, we are so fucking arrogant that our way is the only way. It is not.

EXACTLY!

Buddy deserved it. Treat people with respect or get your ass kicked.

 

[shack]

Bullshit. All those 4'9 tall dudes in there gave the guy suckerpunches and then they kicked him when he was already out. It would have been funny to see even one of those fags challenge him. I have a feeling one punch from that guy and any one of these little dudes go down.

You're missing the point. The guy got himself beat up whether honourably or not. He put his health at risk. Does it matter how it happened?

He could be fucked up for life. That is not bullshit and it happened because he was a jerk.That is the part he was in control of.

 

[Cobra Enorme]

I dont see how people can defend this loser. He was an asshole. Assholes deserve to get their ass kicked. If he was a nice guy, he'd be pumping the hot asian ladies. Instead, he's pumping fluids at the hospital.

Our society is so fucked up. Everyone has a right to be a dick. The rest of the world checks that attitude with their foot.

 

[OddSox]

Our society is so fucked up.

Word.

 

[Gyaos]

- In Japan they have tremendous structure to their honorific interaction. Bowing at different levels, use of san, use of thank you.

san / sama
さん
様

Thank you, in this order:
どうも
どうも有難う
有難う
有難うございます
どうも有難うございます
よろしくお願いします
宜しくお願いいたします。

答えをお書きになりました。 たいへん失礼しました。

Gyaos Baltar.

 

[Armagettin]

san / sama
さん
様

Thank you, in this order:
どうも
どうも有難う
有難う
有難うございます
どうも有難うございます
よろしくお願いします
宜しくお願いいたします。

お書きになりやすいです。 たいへん失礼しました。

Gyaos Baltar.

Thanks Gyaos.

We also have different levels of formality but we are not at all strict as to when it is used.

Ta
Thanks
Thank you
Thank you very much
Thanks a pantload

The Chinese use a hand gesture of tapping two fingers on the table when you fill their tea cup or other drink(or the first two knuckles of two fingers). An Emperor of bygone days liked to travel among the common folk dressed as a commoner to see how things were going. One day he poured tea for a group and one of his incognito guards, knowing he couldn't bow his Emperor, instead imitated a kneeling person with two fingers and tapped the table to show respect.

When I first saw this done, I thought it was because the Chinese were too damned busy talking to take even a moment to thank the person. We all know how rude they are so obviously they invented a lazy way of saying, 'Thanks'. Bastards. I didn't know that it was a custom, far older than our country, and it was based on thanking an Emperor.

 

[Armagettin]

Why do the Chinese get knocked for their driving? Having driven in different parts of Asia where two lanes are clearly marked and there are three, four or five lanes of vehicles all going any which way I can see how some habits could show up here. I don't know if Chinese are worse drivers btw.

After driving in Canada, try driving in Britain where they have a whole new level of discipline in their driving. They use fast and slow lanes the way they were actually in intended to be used and they complain of the stupid Canadians et al that don't know how to drive.

If you are driving in the fast lane there, you better be going fast or you will get lights flashed at you from a car that is still pretty far back. You had better get out of the way. It is a perfectly acceptable reaction there. Here, we think the impatient guy is rude.

All a matter of perspective. Our culture seems to be migrating heavily towards individual rights vs fitting into a community. We are becoming a very egocentric culture.

 

[OddSox]

The Chinese use a hand gesture of tapping two fingers on the table when you fill their tea cup or other drink(or the first two knuckles of two fingers). An Emperor of bygone days liked to travel among the common folk dressed as a commoner to see how things were going. One day he poured tea for a group and one of his incognito guards, knowing he couldn't bow his Emperor, instead imitated a kneeling person with two fingers and tapped the table to show respect.

When I first saw this done, I thought it was because the Chinese were too damned busy talking to take even a moment to thank the person. We all know how rude they are so obviously they invented a lazy way of saying, 'Thanks'. Bastards. I didn't know that it was a custom, far older than our country, and it was based on thanking an Emperor.

Hmm, you can dress it up - but it still seems rude to me.

 

[Armagettin]

Hmm, you can dress it up - but it still seems rude to me.

From your upbringing. Go to Japan. Saying, 'Thanks' there would be very rude in many circumstances. Their response would be the same as yours. You can dress it up but it still seems rude and yet you would believe your behaviour to be very polite. You said, "Thanks."

It is only rude in context of the culture it comes from. Not yours. As soon as you apply your arbitrary standards to them, you have the makings of misunderstanding, intolerance and profiling.

 

[OddSox]

True enough.

(should I apologize now?)

 

[Armagettin]

(should I apologize now?)

Nothing to apologize for and I don't give a shit about that anyway. I am just interested in discussing it. I also understand how easy it is. I do it all the time. It also shows just how difficult it must be to sort out the Middle East situation. Good luck.

I had a Chinese girl (HK) that worked for me and one of the staff she supervised came to me and claimed that Fefe (made up) was very rude to her.

The staff member had asked for a day off and the Chinese girl said, "What's your problem?" in a brusque, Cantonese accent. The staff member was highly insulted that her integrity would be questioned.

When I investigated, it turned out that Fefe was very concerned for the girl. Rather than ask, "Is everything ok?", she was straight to the point. Fefe was intending good will which fit with her history. Before it was sorted out however, the story had spread of how rude Fefe was.

 

[Gyaos]

Thanks Gyaos.
We also have different levels of formality but we are not at all strict as to when it is used.

Who's we? Where are you? Something tells me you are a tolerated amateur in Japan.

Gyaos Baltar

 

[K Douglas]

If I was that bloke, I'd sober up and find the little fucker who sucker punched me. He was acting like an asshole though, he deserved a licking. But it should have been done fairly.

 

[Armagettin]

Who's we?

Most of the people on this board.

 

[Gyaos]

No answer means no ho on za ro ho. You know nothing about Japan buddy.

Gyaos Baltar.

 

[escortsxxx]

Chinese worese drivers?

Why do the Chinese get knocked for their driving? Having driven in different parts of Asia where two lanes are clearly marked and there are three, four or five lanes of vehicles all going any which way I can see how some habits could show up here. I don't know if Chinese are worse drivers btw.

After driving in Canada, try driving in Britain where they have a whole new level of discipline in their driving. They use fast and slow lanes the way they were actually in intended to be used and they complain of the stupid Canadians et al that don't know how to drive.

If you are driving in the fast lane there, you better be going fast or you will get lights flashed at you from a car that is still pretty far back. You had better get out of the way. It is a perfectly acceptable reaction there. Here, we think the impatient guy is rude.


As you said, the puprose of tests in China is to get the highest mark cheating or no. I have known many Chinese to cheat/bride etc on their driving tests. The attidute about cheating was the one you expressed earlier. Perhaps this is where the germ of the sterotype comes from. I know I could not drive in many Asian countries - the style of driving is far too different.

 

[Armagettin]

No answer means no ho on za ro ho. You know nothing about Japan buddy.Gyaos Baltar.

Well buddy. You know nothing about me but you are demonstrating that you are an asshole.

I am certainly no expert on Japan and didn't claim to be but I do have some experience from regular business trips there and to China, HK, Thailand etc.

I was giving my understanding of a part of the culture. If it is incorrect, then please correct, add etc. Educate us. No reason to be a condescending dickhead. Are you mature enough to do this?