O’Toole is out

K Douglas

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The tone-deaf Conservatives obviously don't think O'Toole is socially conservative enough to win elections.
Has nothing to do with being socially conservative just conservative. O'Toole was doing his impersonation of Trudeau lite.
 

K Douglas

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Funnily enough, I have never been able to vote federally for the Tories because Diefenbaker cancelled the AVRO Arrow.

Seriously. I've never forgiven them. They didn't bury Diefenbaker deep enough or soon enough for me. The guy was an old fogey when he was 25 years old.

I wasn't even born when the conservatives spiked the Arrow, but once I learned about the Arrow and what a national tragedy it was and how it affects us even today, I've never put an X beside a federal conservative. But I despise Justin Trudeau so much for being so utterly stupid and incompetent that I voted strategically for the NDP in the last election because I did want the Cons to win. Too bad it didn't work out for me or for O'Toole.
That is some kinda liberal logic right there Captain. So you voted for NDP over the PPC, which is a true Conservative party.
 

Darts

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Has nothing to do with being socially conservative just conservative. O'Toole was doing his impersonation of Trudeau lite.
Winning the 905 is key. I think (hope) those folks are conservatives.
 

K Douglas

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Who is going to beat Ford? Are you voting for Andrea Horvath? Or maybe Delduca?

Conservative monority.

I still think Ford could take the Federal Leadership and run for PM.
I have no idea what the Liberals were thinking making Del Duca their leader. He's got the charisma and likeability factor of the Unibomber.
 

K Douglas

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Winning the 905 is key. I think (hope) those folks are conservatives.
Mississauga is mostly Liberal leaning now but the Conservatives/PC's have had some recent success provincially. Mississauga South is the most conservative of the ridings in the city.
Brampton can go Conservative as a lot of Sikhs support the party. But the liberals still control most of the EI vote. Caledon/Bolton is mostly conservative.
Oakville and Burlington are definitely conservative leaning but for the last three federal elections they have voted liberal. Milton the last two.
Hamilton has conservative pockets in Dundas, Flamborough and Grimsby but its mostly NDP/Liberal territory.
 

lomotil

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Perhaps you did not understand the purpose of the bill, which was to reduce human trafficking, exploitation of minors and strengthen laws wrt pimps
You hated it in principle because some else told you it was to snuff out pay for play

More than a decade latter nobody here had been screwed over by it
It has been just over seven since this anemic and toothless bill was enacted not a decade. LE has all but given up enforcing it, as it makes the arrest of those purchasing sex illegal impossible to enforce and has done little to stop human trafficking , child prostitution and has increased the amount of pimps (aka brothel owners in some cases). The prostitutes were given immunity from prosecution from selling a service which is illegal to purchase which resulted in a proliferation of brothels. My understanding of the intent of Bill C36 is not of any real importance compared to the consequences of the Bill that are seen today. More than ever, it is a buyer and sellers market as the Harper Tory’s were mental midgets in writing this Bill.
 
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seagerbuzz

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See liberals. This is how you get rid of a spineless idiot before he ruins your country.
 

seagerbuzz

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If Ford was smart he wouldn't run again provincially, but would set his sights on a Federal seat. Any one of his senior Ministers, as well as handful of outsiders, could more easily persuade provincial Conservative voters that this time won't be a bait and switch. Federal leader is not in the cards. He cannot deliver the GTA, so better to choose a federal leader who can deliver seats elsewhere.

But Ford is not smart. Frankly he's a better campaign manager than politician. Another person, like O'Toole, who overshot his appropriate station.

I won't be voting for Horvath or Delduca under any circumstances. Whatever Ford did wrong, those two morons wanted to do even more wrong. If Ford runs again provincially, I'll be voting for whatever party makes the better case to declare itself the voice of "purple" voters.
If Ford was smart he never would've gotten into politics to begin with. Plain and simple.
 

onomatopoeia

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Funnily enough, I have never been able to vote federally for the Tories because Diefenbaker cancelled the AVRO Arrow.

Seriously. I've never forgiven them. They didn't bury Diefenbaker deep enough or soon enough for me. The guy was an old fogey when he was 25 years old.

I wasn't even born when the conservatives spiked the Arrow, but once I learned about the Arrow and what a national tragedy it was and how it affects us even today, I've never put an X beside a federal conservative. But I despise Justin Trudeau so much for being so utterly stupid and incompetent that I voted strategically for the NDP in the last election because I did want the Cons to win. Too bad it didn't work out for me or for O'Toole.
The Avro Arrow was superior to what the United States had in production and development in the late 1950's. Canada would be a sitting duck for foreign invasion without a mutual defense treaty with the USA. There was no Cold War between Canada and the USSR. The order to scrap the Arrow came from the Eisenhower administration, and Diefenbaker complied. Many of the former Avro research and development staff found immediate employment south of the border. A famous quote from John F. Kennedy: "When I tell Canada to do something, I expect her to obey".

My grandfather, (1896-1992), had a rare photograph taken from inside an Avro Arrow, while flying upside down. His opinions about scrapping the Arrow project were identical to yours.
 

onomatopoeia

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Conservatives elect Candice Bergen as interim party leader



Maybe they hope to pick up votes from some of the marginally informed demographic, who think Murphy Brown would make a good Prime Minister.
 
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mandrill

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You are right. Conservatives are no loner Conservatives. They moved too far to the left after Liberals became the socialists party.
When did all this happen, Fall? In September 2014? Or was it April?
 

poker

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The PPC is not a "true conservative party". It's a true wannabe-US Republican party.
I was really impressed with Berniers credentials before I found out he was insane.
 

silentkisser

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Error kept pandering to liberal voters. There is no point being an opposition leader if your platform and beliefs are similar to the party you are supposed to be opposing. Canadians want a clear choice between 2 different parties. There are lots of conservatives in this country just waiting for a leader who will acknowledge them instead of running away from them.
You may be surprised.
I would question what this means. In this last election, him running a anti-public health message would have killed him in many parts of the country. Other issues were also not going to win him votes, like the carbon tax. I mean, I agree with other in this thread that he should have been given an opportunity to re-build the base of the party. Knifing him now is only setting them back...
 

silentkisser

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Trudeau should spend 600 million on another election as soon as possible so he can loose the majority vote and form another minority government.

Sounds like a good plan.
Don't give him any ideas....Mind you, I think he might actually be smart enough to figure out that it would be a bad idea....but you never know...
 

mandrill

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I would question what this means. In this last election, him running a anti-public health message would have killed him in many parts of the country. Other issues were also not going to win him votes, like the carbon tax. I mean, I agree with other in this thread that he should have been given an opportunity to re-build the base of the party. Knifing him now is only setting them back...
Ottawa - Montreal corridor = 6 million people
Vancouver = 2.5 million people
EGH - 10 million people
TOTAL = 18.5 million people

Population of AB and SK = 5.5 million people

The CPC clearly believes that by firing the 1 leader who was likely able to make inroads in urban Central Canada and the Lower Mainland and by dominating AB and SK, that it can also dominate Canadian politics...


:LOL: 😺 :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO::p:D😸🙀🐱🐵🐸
 
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Brill

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How many millions will it cost to find another leader unacceptable to many Conservative MPs?
Maybe a western separatist will set up a GoFund Me for them?
 
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Darts

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The "first past the post" system is a problem for the Conservatives because their votes are concentrated and they could and have won the popular vote but failed to gain the proportional number of seats. The only poll that matters is the 338 poll.
 
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