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NYT has 2 decades of Trump's taxes

wigglee

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Nobody cares about his taxes, only his leadership qualities. This won't convince anyone to not vote for him.
Leadership???? You mean lying about the covid crisis and enabling the deaths of 200,000 so far? You mean undermining confidence in judges, elections and the media, only to replace them with fear, loathing and false claims of fake news? You mean promoting a race war that is currently being waged in the streets? Being a tax cheat is not his worst fault, I'll give you that.
 
This is hardly unique to Trump. It applies to the whole millionaire , billionaire class. At least Trump has waived his salary and puts in 18 hour work days. He doesn't get paid for hiding in a basement like the other candidate.
And how does that long work day go? Much of it listening to fox news and other fake news sources, which he then repeats is tweets and rants that are 90% lies to his base. He doesn't take daily briefs like past Presidents from security team, won't even read a version. Aids say can only approach him like in sixty grade language and nothing he will not want to hear or he gets upset.

He often says he knows more than his generals - his gut instincts are the best in the world since he is the greatest (at destroying American values and global allied relationships.
 

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No one who voted for him cared whether or not he was a successful business man.
Sure , a few people used it as justification because they didn't want to admit they were voting for the racism, but they didn't really care.
This isn't going to change anything. As we have seen on this thread, people who want to vote for his policies will just make up reasons why this doesn't matter.
Only power counts.

The only benefit this has is that it removes one fake narrative the Mainstream Media can use to cover for Trump, and that people pointing at laughing that he is a failure will piss Trump off and as a narcissist he will obsess about that. (He is a very fragile snowflake.)

Other than that, it doesn't change much because white collar crime isn't something that his supporters care about.
Agreed, the fact that Trump maybe an even greater con man than PT Barnum and fiscally as authentic as both Melania’s and Ivanka’s bolt on chests is absolutely irrelevant to his sizeable base. Trump was elected because people were fed up and wanted change and he is a affecting the change that they want . Maybe on paper he is actually less than zero, who knows ???But this is for the courts and forensic accountants to figure out who were dumb enough to have let him get away with it for so long. Vlad has more on Trump than the Moscow piss video, such as Russia mafia bankrolling his New York real estate debts.
But at the end of the day, as Trump told crooked Hilary in the debate, he got away with his taxes because he was smart, smart enough to win the GOP nomination, the presidency and probable re- election this coming November which speaks to what America actually is.
 

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Wait! Isn't the New York Times on the fake news list?
 

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Since I didn't make any statements on this fine forum I have no need to produce anything now do I?

I simply challenged heir Basket to prove what he said. And you took up the charge. Now you are admitting that you can't either.

Without any '' hard numbers'' any conclusions are just opinions. Which mean diddly squat to moi.

I'm sure the NYT and their MSM propaganda machine has a whole timeline of scripted bombshells to drop between now and the election though and the sheep will line up at the trough.
You sound bitter.

"MSM Propaganda Machine"? :) You know that's a "tell" right?



Let 'em cry if they want to, it's their party:

 
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This gives Biden more ammunition in the debate in a big way.
Trump, being a bullshit artist, can't stand being called a failure or not as rich as he claims.
That'll make Trump lose his shit.

On top of that he can use Trump's tax break for the rich and his $750 tax bill against him, nobody is going to be on Trump's side on this issue except boober and larue.
 

squeezer

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You're right it is a tell. I'm telling you to show me the proof that he was never a billionaire.

Bet ya can't.
If you were American, even after all the bullshit you hear coming out of Trumps mouth would you vote for him?

No public judgement! I may shake my head in disgust but I'll keep it to myself! LOL
 

The Oracle

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If you were American, even after all the bullshit you hear coming out of Trumps mouth would you vote for him?
Is the alternative the progressive left?............You know the proponents of critical race theory. Cancel culture. Defunding the police. Democratic socialism. Supporting rioting.

Cause I'm not sure where Biden is on all this. His main winning strategy is letting Trump shoot himself in the foot. Banking on the anybody but dogma.

So is that my alternative...........Because a lot of us are thinking we might just stick with the devil we know.
 

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Is the alternative the progressive left?............You know the proponents of critical race theory. Cancel culture. Defunding the police. Democratic socialism. Supporting rioting.

Cause I'm not sure where Biden is on all this. His main winning strategy is letting Trump shoot himself in the foot. Banking on the anybody but dogma.

So is that my alternative...........Because a lot of us are thinking we might just stick with the devil we know.
You have to admit Biden based on his history is far from the progressive left. The same can easily be said of Kamala Harris. It's obvious they are center left to the dismay of the young progressive left among the party.
 

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Rich people avoiding taxes. since when has this been news? Democrats reek of desperation.
 

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Is the alternative the progressive left?............You know the proponents of critical race theory. Cancel culture. Defunding the police. Democratic socialism. Supporting rioting.

Cause I'm not sure where Biden is on all this. His main winning strategy is letting Trump shoot himself in the foot. Banking on the anybody but dogma.

So is that my alternative...........Because a lot of us are thinking we might just stick with the devil we know.
Biden has said, unequivocally, NO to defunding the police. He actually called for increased funding for the police. He called protesters who vandalize criminals. As VP his economy was as good as trumps pre pandemic. (Roughly same GDP growth, bigger decline in unemployment, more jobs created per month-old 215k, vs 185k Trump). Things continued to rise under trump but just look at the data - there is no change, no bump, in any trend line after trump took over. The problem is fox news etc was calling 2.4% GDP growth 'pathetic ' when Obama was president, and they called 2.5% growth "roaring" when trump was president. GDP growth was better under all presidents since WWII so this "record breaking" is just bullshit (except stock prices, but again, they were on the smooth rate rise from obama).

Thus this fear that Biden will not know how to run an economy is flat out false. In fact Obama saved it when he took over, saved the us auto industry too. .
 

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Is the alternative the progressive left?............You know the proponents of critical race theory. Cancel culture. Defunding the police. Democratic socialism. Supporting rioting.

Cause I'm not sure where Biden is on all this. His main winning strategy is letting Trump shoot himself in the foot. Banking on the anybody but dogma.

So is that my alternative...........Because a lot of us are thinking we might just stick with the devil we know.
They aren't running in this election, Biden is. he is moderate by any definition other than the false narrative your fearless leader is trying to advance. Neither Bernie or AOC are on the ballot.
 

The Oracle

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You have to admit Biden based on his history is far from the progressive left. The same can easily be said of Kamala Harris. It's obvious they are center left to the dismay of the young progressive left among the party.
Yes this I agree to..........Harris is a chameleon though and I'm not so sure she can be trusted. The lengths she went to attack Biden in the debates showed that.

Also the progressives have made it clear that as soon as Biden gets in the gloves are coming off and they are going to challenge him. The Democrats are going to implode at some time.

Then there is Biden's mental fitness to consider. They're trying to avoid and deflect the issue as best as they can but it's definitely there.
 

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Yes this I agree to..........Harris is a chameleon though and I'm not so sure she can be trusted. The lengths she went to attack Biden in the debates showed that.

Also the progressives have made it clear that as soon as Biden gets in the gloves are coming off and they are going to challenge him. The Democrats are going to implode at some time.

Then there is Biden's mental fitness to consider. They're trying to avoid and deflect the issue as best as they can but it's definitely there.
I won't deny Kamala is a shark and I also won't deny Biden isn't the Biden of 10 years ago but Trump isn't any better. Both are over the hill and neither if we are going to be honest should be running for the POTUS.
 
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The Oracle

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Biden has said, unequivocally, NO to defunding the police. He actually called for increased funding for the police. He called protesters who vandalize criminals. As VP his economy was as good as trumps pre pandemic. (Roughly same GDP growth, bigger decline in unemployment, more jobs created per month-old 215k, vs 185k Trump). Things continued to rise under trump but just look at the data - there is no change, no bump, in any trend line after trump took over. The problem is fox news etc was calling 2.4% GDP growth 'pathetic ' when Obama was president, and they called 2.5% growth "roaring" when trump was president. GDP growth was better under all presidents since WWII so this "record breaking" is just bullshit (except stock prices, but again, they were on the smooth rate rise from obama).

Thus this fear that Biden will not know how to run an economy is flat out false. In fact Obama saved it when he took over, saved the us auto industry too. .
So lets see if he states this unequivocally during the debates. Let's see if he deals with critical race theory, unauthorized tearing down of statues, protests extending past curfews, charging violent protesters, Covid response going forward, Medicare for all, the green new deal, illegal immigration.

I want to hear him clearly state his views not pussy foot around them

At least with Trump I know exactly where he stands.
 
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