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rld

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How small is that group of scientists?

How do racial classification of humans differ from classification of dog breeds (other than the former occuring under natural selection, the latter by artificial selection)?

Culture and genes are important for success.
Very small indeed. The leading evolutionary biologists on both sides of the pond, long ago abandoned the idea of race as a useful tool in science, particularly after the discovery and understanding of genetics.

Race is at best equivilent to a subspecies or variant, which has very little taxonomic value if any.

And in these cases, I really do think the success is related to culture.. I don't see any evidence for genetic superiority of asians or jews.
 

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Only by the very small group of scientists who have not abandoned the idea of race.
Like it or not, there are racial differences. The easiest distinctions are physical characteristics believe they are so visible. For example, White people are generally larger and taller (although some Black folks are pretty large and tall as well). Black males generally have larger c--ks or so they say. There have been studies on natural intelligence but those studies have been suppressed due to political correctness.
 

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Very small indeed. The leading evolutionary biologists on both sides of the pond, long ago abandoned the idea of race as a useful tool in science, particularly after the discovery and understanding of genetics.

Race is at best equivilent to a subspecies or variant, which has very little taxonomic value if any.

And in these cases, I really do think the success is related to culture.. I don't see any evidence for genetic superiority of asians or jews.
Fact is, race can be defined a number of ways, and it is still used in science. It's also been given different names like clines, human populations, and so on. Genetics is still very much in its infancy.

Do dog breeds have taxonomic value?

If you don't see ANY evidence that could be legitimately interpreted as a genetic basis of Jewish intelligence, I'd argue that you're being dishonest. But that is customary nowadays.
 

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I never understood why Spanish Jews are not considered "European" Jews?
Sephardic jews refers to the jews who inhabitated the Iberian peninsula long before King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella sent them into exile. Previous to the Catholic monarchs the Islamic and Jewish people in Spain got along very well. Those who didn't convert to Catholicism were exiled and many were burned as heretics. There you have the Spanish Inquisition......one of the most horrible periods in the history of religion!
Another example of persecution by the Vatican and Catholic Church doctrines. (Sorry i couldn't resist saying it)
 

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Like it or not, there are racial differences. The easiest distinctions are physical characteristics believe they are so visible. For example, White people are generally larger and taller (although some Black folks are pretty large and tall as well). Black males generally have larger c--ks or so they say. There have been studies on natural intelligence but those studies have been suppressed due to political correctness.
But the variations are so small as to be insignificant. Take a look at a very small dog and a very large dog and tell me if you can find humans with that difference. Some of the differences are also do to diet, not genetics. The fact that we now know that many genes are activated by environment means that the idea of race is even less useful.

Feel free to do your homework and understand why science has abandoned the use of race in biology. It would do you some good, and the reasons are not political.

Your last statement is simply untrue. There was a very famous book not too long ago called "the bell curve" on exactly that subject. It was published, widely read, and widely criticized. But it sure was not suppressed.

Perhaps you could give us some evidence about these "suppressed" studies. And if they were suppressed, how is it you know about them? Do you have special access?
 

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Sephardic jews refers to the jews who inhabitated the Iberian peninsula long before King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella sent them into exile. Previous to the Catholic monarchs the Islamic and Jewish people in Spain got along very well. Those who didn't convert to Catholicism were exiled and many were burned as heretics. There you have the Spanish Inquisition......one of the most horrible periods in the history of religion!
Another example of the Vatican and Catholic Church doctrines. (Sorry i couldn't resist saying it)
Technically I don't think jews who did not convert were burned. I believe that jews who converted and then converted back again were burned.

You should also know, since you want to talk about it, that the Spanish Inquisition was run by the secular authorities who did all the burning and executing, particularly in Spain. In many instances the RCC church tried to curb the abuses of secular government run inquisitions.

Some good history books would do you a world of good.
 

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Perhaps you could give us some evidence about these "suppressed" studies. And if they were suppressed, how is it you know about them? Do you have special access?
Yes, please look up Professor J. Philippe Rushton, University of Western Ontario.
BTW: Are you saying that Black males don't have the largest c==cks?
 

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Yes, please look up Professor J. Philippe Rushton, University of Western Ontario.
BTW: Are you saying that Black males don't have the largest c==cks?
Rushton is published and well known. Most people think his science is junk, it has nothing to do with surpression. And if you and I know about him, and I can buy his books which have been well debated and covered, there are not very well surppressed now are they. Calling a published book a peice of shit, is not suppression.

And I have no idea about black cock size, nor do I care. But I bet it is all within the range found within the other races. Why don't you tell us about cock size if it is so important for you?
 

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Yes, please look up Professor J. Philippe Rushton, University of Western Ontario.
BTW: Are you saying that Black males don't have the largest c==cks?
I would add to that James D. Watson.

The biggest issue is funding If you are not politically correct, the instution you are affiliated with suffers bad press and hence funding goe out the window. Your career as a scientist is over.
 

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Technically I don't think jews who did not convert were burned. I believe that jews who converted and then converted back again were burned.

You should also know, since you want to talk about it, that the Spanish Inquisition was run by the secular authorities who did all the burning and executing, particularly in Spain. In many instances the RCC church tried to curb the abuses of secular government run inquisitions.

Some good history books would do you a world of good.
I don't care if it was secular or not! The methods were approved and enforced by the Vatican and the church! Many current Spaniards would be shocked to learn that their ancestors might have been jewish and were forced into conversion or expulsion. You should run for Cardinal since in your eyes they can do no hardm.
 

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I don't care if it was secular or not! The methods were approved and enforced by the Vatican and the church! Many current Spaniards would be shocked to learn that their ancestors might have been jewish and were forced into conversion or expulsion. You should run for Cardinal since in your eyes they can do no hardm.
Not if they are education Spaniards.
 

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I don't care if it was secular or not! The methods were approved and enforced by the Vatican and the church! Many current Spaniards would be shocked to learn that their ancestors might have been jewish and were forced into conversion or expulsion. You should run for Cardinal since in your eyes they can do no hardm.
i've come to the conclusion RLD is a priest.i have never met anyone beside my own priest , who is sooo defensive about the RCC..but hell all to you RLD! priests have their needs too...at least he's ont his board lookin for ladies instead of preying on the Sandusky type..lol
 

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I would add to that James D. Watson.

The biggest issue is funding If you are not politically correct, the instution you are affiliated with suffers bad press and hence funding goe out the window. Your career as a scientist is over.
Which Studies of Mr. Watson have been suppressed? He was fired for saying some stupid things which were not scientifically based.

And their are plenty of great scientists who do work that is not close to politically correct.

Ruston, makes lots of money funded by a racist little organization. And Rushton's work, is not good science.
 

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i've come to the conclusion RLD is a priest.i have never met anyone beside my own priest , who is sooo defensive about the RCC..but hell all to you RLD! priests have their needs too...at least he's ont his board lookin for ladies instead of preying on the Sandusky type..lol
No such luck. I am not a priest. Not even baptized and have never been a member of any church.

But on point, I was factually correct and Petzel was factually wrong. I guess you think people should remain silent when they see people basing arguments on inaccurate facts.

Forgive me, I just kind of like...the truth.
 

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No such luck. I am not a priest. Not even baptized and have never been a member of any church.

But on point, I was factually correct and Petzel was factually wrong. I guess you think people should remain silent when they see people basing arguments on inaccurate facts.

Forgive me, I just kind of like...the truth.
When you've been persecuted since the beginning of man's history and yet we're still here, then you can comment!
 

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When you've been persecuted since the beginning of man's history and yet we're still here, then you can comment!
You got your facts wrong Petzel. Intentionally or innocently, you put out something as fact that was untrue.

and if you are arguing the only people who can comment on history are Jews...you really need to rethink that one.
 

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What do you mean by education Spaniards....Spaniards who teach?
My bad, typo, 'educated' Spaniards, damn spellcheck.

Like, for instance Spaniards know their countries history for a start, especially one of the most infamous parts of it to the point of giving the countries name to an event that was just as serious i other countries of the time.
 
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