They are just pining for the Fjords over the last 4 months, catching their breaths for the full onslaught that will happen any day now.
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They just took 12km of southern Nikolaev and now are advancing on several fronts.
that is an important lesson. But the cultural gulf is not that wide and infact, quite a few Ukrainians will see Russia as a liberator, but yes I agree many will not. Those will mostly leave to the EU. So it depends on where. I am convinced Russia will annex some lands and leave a western state as its puppet/buffer. This state will acquire nuclear weapons.
First, if Russia was the powerhouse you say they are, why is there still a war going on? Russia outnumbered Ukraine by quite a lot. They had superior numbers in men and weapon systems. Yet they got their asses chewed up. Ukraine suffered losses. No side comes out unscathed in war. But they have access to NATO/Western machinery and ammunition. And considering Russian losses are massive compared to Ukraine....it is a bigger issue for Russia.
And, no matter how you try to spin this, Russia was the one who decided to invade with no justification. They are the ones who started it, they are the ones who will hopefully suffer from it. And, battles do decide the course of the war. Has there been decisive battles yet? Maybe. But from what most people can see is Russia has already lost. They failed in achieving their stated objectives, and are now trying to consolidate power in the portions of Ukraine that they mostly held before the war.
LOL
That is what Moscow was hoping for. And yes, there are probably some Ukrainians who want Russia there. Just like there were Vietnamese who wanted American intervention But, that didn't really help the US in the war, now did it? And sure, some Ukrainians will move to western Europe. But I don't think that means the fighting is going to stop. Russia is going to try and create a buffer space, but I don't think Ukraine will make it easy. Again, Russian troop morale is in the toilet, they have weapon systems that are poorly maintained and cannot be re-supplied. The longer this goes on, the more painful it will be for Russia.
Or the Ukrainians will stay there and keep up the sabotage and intel for Ukrainian HIMARS.
Now you think Russia will try to 'liberate' Donbas and post nukes there to stop NATO?
So instead of a neutral Ukraine that gave up its nukes you think its good that it will become an occupied state with Russian nukes and nuclear plants like Zaporizhzhia that will be destroyed?
Wow.
Wow. 12 km.
Three dead as Ukrainian HIMARS strike on Russian army HQ
RUSSIA has been delivered another blow after Ukraine struck a building housing the local administration headquarters in the centre of separatist-controlled Donetsk.
www.express.co.uk
They never controled those lands prior to declaration.
And daily more and more teritory is falking to the Russians.
Today they entered Nikolayev region okupying 12 square km in one day.
Next is Nikolayev, than Odesa, probably this time next year, but maby sooner.
No, but the breakaway states invited in Putin and his army after declaring independence.
He could have had the same amount of land for free, with no deaths and not a land that's bombed to shit.
epic failure
Russia recognizes independence of Ukraine separatist regions – DW – 02/21/2022
The recognition of Donetsk and Luhansk as "independent" has been met with widespread condemnation from the West amid fears it could provide a pretext for a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
www.dw.com
I just want to remind you that you are talking about european politics that you dont know shit about, this is the oart of the world where one island changed hands 10 times in a 100 years belonging to 3 different countries, so dont be coy about what is really going on over there.
Also I never said Russians are unscated by all this, as a matter of fact Ukraine is a large country with a formidable army who fielded thousands of armored vehicles and houndreds of aircraft at the begening of this unfortunate war, and not some micky mouse state like Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya, that USA engaged.
This all said Russians are grinding them down, they are taking city by city, you should know that, now knowing and accepting are different things.
Only through Russian victory do we prevent WW3 that the Americans are so itching for, hooefully Europe says enough is enough to the USA and decides to be a master of its own destiny, hand in hand with Russia.
So if Europe flips, what does that spell for the good old USA and their British masters ?
That's so weird that you think that's true.
But hey, czar on this board also posts almost identical views and spelling, so maybe there are a lot of you.
Err, no.
It may be using 15 - 20% of its total military power - (in fact, it's probably more) - but that's pretty much its entire deployable force. Remember that this is a peacetime army with a large % of non combatants. So that 70 - 80%? of non-deployed troops are clerks in Moscow, missile techs in Archangelsk, border troops deployed in Vladivostok on the PRC border, naval sonar operators in Leningrad and staff college dudes in Smolensk. Those people aren't going to carry AK's in Donbas.
It's well documented that RUssia is force conscripting grandads in Luhansk and using them as cannon fodder with World War 2 bolt action rifles. Russia is offering large bounties for kontraktnik soldiers to sign up in Moscow. The war is clearly not going well and there's shit all available to perform any offensive that's larger in scope than seizing a little village here and there every couple of weeks.
And it's clear that Ukraine doesn't have the manpower or the inclination for frontal attacks through urban areas. That sort of op eats up Stalingrad scale numbers of infantry. Instead, the Ukrainians are blowing up arteries and ammo dumps to try and force the Russians to pull back due to lack of ammunition and other supplies.
That is utter rubbish. There is NO REASON to give anyone bolt action rifles. Russia has endless stocks of AK-47s and is introducing newer rifles for its professional military. There may be old men that were fighting in the Donetsk militia for the last 8 years that choose to keep fighting. That would not at all surprise me since they were being shelled by UAF for the last 8 years. Russia has 1m active military and over 3m incl reserves .They have about 100K in Donbas and about 50-60k militia fighting with them Many observers are saying that the Russians are defying the 3:1 offense/defence ratio for success and this is historic.
Russia also lost in Afghanistan and it was next door to Russia. Iraq had serious military power, it was not a mickey mouse army.
Iraq was in shambles and on a brink of a civil war, due to the years of sanctions.
I am not cheering here for either side, since who ever wins, they have both already lost, and this is why Russia will take as mich territory as it deems necessary in order to establish a lasting peace.
Afghanistan who won and who lost is debatable, but one thing soviet union did not do is invade, they were called in by the existing government at the time. What USA did there was an invasion, that kasted way longer and they also Lost, but both of them accomplished their set goals before retreating.
So few corrections here, they are uaing 10% of their active deployable force, conscripts dont count, ans they are currently not engaged in fighting.
This said, all is fair in live and war ans they all lie when reporting to embelish success and cover up faliures,ike Russia did at the beggining of the campaign.
Now, since they are taking large swats of land, now you need forces stationed in occupied areas to secure them, so now you dont need well trained troops, those go to thw front, but you keep new regruits in the rear, training and serving as rear guard, as well as gaining experience and getting more battle ready.
You will see more of this as the campaign goes on, and more major cities are taken.
In Russia it is bussiness as usual, planes fly, ppl go to work, and kids to school.
While Ukraine is unable to hold off the 10% advance.
Also worth mentioning is that foreign armies are elsending thsir officers in to gain combat experience and hands on training.
He doesn't need "research" nor practice to make a fool of himself regurgitating Russian stooge propaganda that 'all is going to plan". lol
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