they are not hard to find. But taking one out is only the option, if you have similar capabilities, i.e. we are in the old MAD territory. The russians may still have a MASD capability, and I suspect China will have it within a decade.
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they are not hard to find. But taking one out is only the option, if you have similar capabilities, i.e. we are in the old MAD territory. The russians may still have a MASD capability, and I suspect China will have it within a decade.
LMAO. Didn't USN acquire the sunburn derivatives for evaluation purpose in 1995? Shouldn't the MIC have already figure out how to defeat bulky anti-ship missiles with reasonable confidence?
Another proof that the Admirals are wearing another hat, namely shilling for MIC say Boeing, Ford CEO former employer.
WRT Iran rumor to possess the sunburn, the Iranians could con us they have dozens of them all they want but I don't recall they have corvettes like this one or frigates to handle the "monsters". Their less than half a dozen, "not junkie" frigates arm with "Chinese design but assembled in Iran" missiles, not the Russian products.
Plus, I don't recall the Iranians use MAZ-543 8x8 artillery trucks family as mobile launchers for anti-ship missiles or something.
BTW, those so-called enhancements/upgrades are symbolic since their ramjet engines are bulky as usual compared to the French and hence vulnerable to attack. Moreover, I could not recall the Russians have Glonass as an option.
LMAO!!! Yeah right
You and bottie should get a room and share your delusions together while twirling his pom-poms....
You and bottie should get a room and share your delusions together while twirling his pom-poms....
They are very hard to find, it's a big ocean and they move at 45 knots..... you can't find them by aircraft because they will be jammed and then shot down, you need real time satellite to find one, who has those?
OTB
OTB
finding a carrier battle group is difficult, it requires air assets of some kind or another , sattelites are best but even with real time data transfer there is a time lag between locating and launching. Add in the travel time of a ballistic missile and if it does not have a nuclear warhead it will be of limited value. Even with a nuclear warhead it needs to get close, and if it gets close it can be shot down. Nuclear subs are of limited value against a carrier battle group the russian and in particular the chinese subs are relatively easy to track, and the Americans have put generations of work into the perfection of the art of ASW.
As tot eh question of how many countries have less firepower than a carrier its over 90% of the planet... and that is without the MEF that is usually attached
As tot eh question of how many countries have less firepower than a carrier its over 90% of the planet... and that is without the MEF that is usually attached
So that's Russia and current allies - in that list I'd say the French are the most dangerous. I don't think the Russians have the Navy to hit a Carrier even if they can find one.
OTB
I don't know any reason an ICBM would not do the job nicely and cleanly?
PS: I am happy for you that you are proud of the military capabilities of your country. You are sacrificing general education, welfare and health [for the other half] in order to project unlimited military power around the globe. Speaking for myself, I regard achievements in social welfare and eduication for the entire population as greater achievements than military superiority. A chacun son gout.
Oh I don't know, we spend more per student on K-12 education than all but 3 countries and you come here for the healthcare, which is the same care the old and poor get as well as me and my family, it's just you have to pay a LOT more for it.
Our military is very expensive, that is true, and I think there are areas where we should begin drawing down our investment (starting with troops in Europe and Asia) where it's not yielding any advantage.
OTB
Not well spent, obviously. It is the welfare you are missing. And don't lie. You know that not all americans have access to the healthcare I get here in Canada, and in Cuba, and in the US.
Wrong again bottie.
You forgot about those couple Red States where GOPers have recently put 'death panels' in place for the poor....
No, just about 85%... but no one has to leave because of lines or inadequate care.
OTB
You just lost 40,000,000 people, and you are right, they are at the lowest rung on the social ladder, so they are not going anywhere. Please worry about them instead of worrying about me. I can get firsty class medical service in any number of places. I happen to like the Mayo clinic, maybe because most of the nurses have danish names, and because of the PH lamps.
So you don't care a rat's ass about that 15%???
Just ignore them and let them die???.....
No they leave because they cannot afford the care. That is why there will be billions of dollars flowing out of the US this year in medical tourism.
Not a good sign.
You can have as many as you want, but to my recollection they have not been a significant factor in a US military success in about 50 years or so.
Still too expensive, and too vulnerable.
Perhaps the best example of generals fighting the last war.
They've been engaged in: (80s): Lebanon, Libya and in both Iraq wars, Afghanistan- there is one parked off Libya right now
This current disposition is:
Washington - Home port
Lincoln - South China Sea
Vinson - Arabian Sea
Enterprise - Suez Canal
Reagan - Japan
Bush - Just returned from Afghanistan deployment - surge ready for redeployment
Truman - Just returned from Afghanistan deployment
Stennis - maintenance
Eisenhower - maintenance
Nimitz - maintenance
Roosevelt - maintenance
Ford - being built
but don't take it from me, take it from bubba himself:
"When word of a crisis breaks out in Washington, it's no accident that
the first question that comes to everyone's lips is:
'Where's the nearest carrier?'"
President Bill Clinton
March 12, 1993
aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt
Treason alert!!!!! Calling Aardvark, Calling Aardvark, Calling Aardvark,
OTB is aiding and abetting the enemy by disclosing the positions of US carriers. (remember he said they are hard to find).
If you weren't trying so hard to be funny by half you might be informative some time. This is not even close to secret information. Don't give up your day job.
