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Just heard Bettman.
Nobody under $800,000 takes a cut. That's about half the players. I think 90% of the players take less of a cut than the NHLPA proposed 24% across the board. That's gonna get some of them to think.
They're also proposing a higher minimum contract than the PA proposed. Overall, it sounded complex but rational. He said the NHL's proposal would give the players 54% of revenues. The PA's proposal comes in at 56.5%. That's pretty close. The only difference is that the players know that the current system will continue to increase that %age. If they were truly happy with 56% they would accept the deal (or tweak it). Rejecting the deal means they'll accept 56% for now to but they want to continue in an inflationary system.
Not that he hasn't made some mistakes but Bettman is a very intelligent man. Too bad he projects a bit of an arrogant persona.
Nobody under $800,000 takes a cut. That's about half the players. I think 90% of the players take less of a cut than the NHLPA proposed 24% across the board. That's gonna get some of them to think.
They're also proposing a higher minimum contract than the PA proposed. Overall, it sounded complex but rational. He said the NHL's proposal would give the players 54% of revenues. The PA's proposal comes in at 56.5%. That's pretty close. The only difference is that the players know that the current system will continue to increase that %age. If they were truly happy with 56% they would accept the deal (or tweak it). Rejecting the deal means they'll accept 56% for now to but they want to continue in an inflationary system.
Not that he hasn't made some mistakes but Bettman is a very intelligent man. Too bad he projects a bit of an arrogant persona.
I watched the whole 40 minutes of Bettman's speech and all I got out of it was that NHL is 1)trying to break the union by turning the lower paid majority on the higher paid players, 2) that he (Bettman) wouldn't admit that the owners spending was out of control and THATS why costs would rapidly increase to a unsustainable level and tried to spin it as the players fault. 3)Kept spinning the union offer as a NHLPA "admission" of really agreeing with the owners financial figures, rather than simply an attempt to compromise to restart the negotiations. and 4) that he needs an ass-kicking SOOO bad, that little prick.
I got a totally different assesment. He squarely put the ball back in the NHLPA court. Besides, what's wrong with breaking the union? The owners spending is out of control for a number of reasons, not least of which are the fans and media in each market exerting pressure on managers to improve teams immediately .. and how do you do that? Convention is to sign a high priced free agent. That is a system problem, not an owner problem.
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I agree the cost are totally the fault of the owners, they are the one's out there willing to pay the salary of there players. So if any fault is to be laid it is at the feet of the owners
The problem is it is there game(the owners) and if the see fit to change the rules they can pick up all the marble and go untill they see fit to play again
The problem is it is there game(the owners) and if the see fit to change the rules they can pick up all the marble and go untill they see fit to play again
Okay then, how about a cockpunch for Bettman and a knee in the pelvis for Bob Goodenow?
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The fans and the media are to blame? Sounds like buck passing to me.
Mr Meesh -- many independent contractors are members of union, guilds and associations that set out base pay rates -- actors, writers, directors -- are just some examples. What you can negotiate above that base rate is up to you and the person who wants to employ you.
Mr Meesh -- many independent contractors are members of union, guilds and associations that set out base pay rates -- actors, writers, directors -- are just some examples. What you can negotiate above that base rate is up to you and the person who wants to employ you.
You also said owner spending is out of control so what is wrong with breaking the union. What about a little self policing? What about a little fiscal restraint?
It is not as though we are seeing the teams with the highest payrolls consistantly battling it out for the Stanley Cup each year and if owners are going to approve the obtaining of overpriced free agents at the gm's request how is it the player's fault? Owner's need to consider the who, what and why they are spending such massive amounts of money on team payrolls because I have certainly not seen the creation of a money fueled dynasty in the last ten years in the NHL.
It is not as though we are seeing the teams with the highest payrolls consistantly battling it out for the Stanley Cup each year and if owners are going to approve the obtaining of overpriced free agents at the gm's request how is it the player's fault? Owner's need to consider the who, what and why they are spending such massive amounts of money on team payrolls because I have certainly not seen the creation of a money fueled dynasty in the last ten years in the NHL.
