NHL Deal in the works? (Merged threads)
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I just got back fromthe Ice Dogs game and on the radio (Fan590 and Mojo radio) heard that a deal has been struck. Lemeux and Gretzky I hear were heavily involved in the discussions. HARD cap of $45 million. Don't know much about other details (luxury tax??) as this is just coming in.
I just got back fromthe Ice Dogs game and on the radio (Fan590 and Mojo radio) heard that a deal has been struck. Lemeux and Gretzky I hear were heavily involved in the discussions. HARD cap of $45 million. Don't know much about other details (luxury tax??) as this is just coming in.
Actually just done a quick search on TSN and this is a link.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=115396
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=115396
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yychobbyist
well, looks to me that, if this is true, Gary has really pulled one over on old Bob. You knew the players had been poorly advised when, all through the strike you heard they'd been expecting this all along but when Bettman announced the season over all you heard from the players was "I can't believe this". Seems to me they were told by Bob that the owners would cave and they never did.
The owners did cave .. abit. $45 million only aftect less then 10 teams, 7 or so. But Bob did fuck up form the beginning not accepting a cap in any from in principle before. I think he got the riot act read to him by his constituents when gary called it an end.
LOL .. got to love it. Just watched TSN and they had snippets of coaches and players on the latest happenings. It was nice to hear the players say good to hear we knew a deal was going to be done. No tough talk BS on not accepting a cap ever. LOL .. Guess the finally have seen the light.
On another related note. If this deal does get done Mackenzie is hearing that Goodenow is gone in the not to distant future. Thank God for that. He has done nothing to better the game. Adios bud.
On another related note. If this deal does get done Mackenzie is hearing that Goodenow is gone in the not to distant future. Thank God for that. He has done nothing to better the game. Adios bud.
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yychobbyist
This was about a cap from the very start and if the owners get a cap then, in my opinion, they win.n_v said:
The owner had to win..
N2G
....and so did Bettman...he got fucked sideways by Goodenow on the last CBA...so now it was payback.....and Bettman played it out to the limit...Even in the cancellation of the season, Bettman left the door open just enough to get a deal done, and get the season going...Goodenow underestimated tjhe owners resolve to getting the cap, and public opinion, which is strongly behind management....not saying they are right, but the public thinks management is...yychobbyist said:
N2G
F the US
Im sick of people saying the US has to like Hockey for it to thrive. Its our game and us Canadians will make it strong, again.
So what if Areana Football has higher ratings and most NHL teams payrolls are among the smallest in team sports. 20 30 40 Million payrolls maybe small compaired to NFL or NBA, but its relivent to the whole league (NHL).
Fans from US will never be hardcore NHL fans, its the fans from the north that make the NHL grow.
Im sick of people saying the US has to like Hockey for it to thrive. Its our game and us Canadians will make it strong, again.
So what if Areana Football has higher ratings and most NHL teams payrolls are among the smallest in team sports. 20 30 40 Million payrolls maybe small compaired to NFL or NBA, but its relivent to the whole league (NHL).
Fans from US will never be hardcore NHL fans, its the fans from the north that make the NHL grow.
Hockey will never die theres no comparison to the NBA, its far better and way more entertaining, the NBA is a joke especially in this city, NFL is easily the number 1 sport right now MLB has made a comeback and in this city if they could get a decent team on the field i think they could easily ave 30 to 35 thou a night but as far as speed and excitement NHL is as good if not better than MLB and NBA, most people i know in my age group would much rather watch NCAA games and march madness over the NBA any day.
"Why do people even care about hockey? It's such a second rate sport behind NBA, NFL, MLB.
No Americans watch hockey. Few TV stations want to pick up hockey as part of their programming. I predict hockey will be a dead sport within 3-5 years."
Thanks for the laugh! I know that you're not serious, so I 'll laugh at these comments.
No Americans watch hockey. Few TV stations want to pick up hockey as part of their programming. I predict hockey will be a dead sport within 3-5 years."
Thanks for the laugh! I know that you're not serious, so I 'll laugh at these comments.
Contraction!
I wish this wake-up call made both sides of the dispute realize that a smaller healthier league is preferable to an over-expanded diluted one.
The NHL grew too fast too quickly and went into markets where it has proved it cannot thrive. Going back to 24 teams who can produce enough revenue to support a $40-$45 million cap will hurt in the short run, but increase the overall quality of play in the league. Add in some rule changes to open up the game and increase scoring (start with the oversized goalie equipment), and in 2-3 years you have a solid product that US television can sell to its viewers.
I wish this wake-up call made both sides of the dispute realize that a smaller healthier league is preferable to an over-expanded diluted one.
The NHL grew too fast too quickly and went into markets where it has proved it cannot thrive. Going back to 24 teams who can produce enough revenue to support a $40-$45 million cap will hurt in the short run, but increase the overall quality of play in the league. Add in some rule changes to open up the game and increase scoring (start with the oversized goalie equipment), and in 2-3 years you have a solid product that US television can sell to its viewers.
Season was over b4 today. Today was Gretzsky and Lemeux''s try at 'uncancelling' it. From all reports it was a disaster. Especially public relations wise. The players still think that the owner's owe them something bargaining wise. If the NHL $40 million was the most it could afford (repeatedly) but made tries to be creative to go to 42 then how does the NHLPA anything down the road is going to be any differnt to their favour.Asterix said:
It is crystal clear that Goodenow had no exit strategy and continues not to have one. The best offer the NHLPA is going to get was the one they turned down last Tuesday. They fail to realize that there isn't a pot of gold and the end of the rainbow and this ain't the farkin' Wizard of Oz! So Bob, if you are listening.....there ain't no Santa Claus either!n_v said:
Yeah, but I guess there are some who still won't admit it. Considering Gretzsky had made a comment a month ago that he didn't think the league would be able to start up again until January of '06, I don't know what he thought he was accomplishing today. So now we have the first time in history where a major league in North America has cancelled an entire season due to a labor dispute. The league would do well to spend the time in the next few months to take a hard look at what is wrong with the game beyond the labor issues. Contraction seems inevitable, but rule changes are due also (getting rid of the red line springs to mind). If the lockout continues into late fall/winter you can stick a fork in this league.n_v said:
