Next Day Replies

[justplainbob]

Oh I get it. But by the same token, I am not having a stranger with no way to trace them, coming to my incall (which is my private personal home) where he can rape, rob or murder me. I give valuable personal information in return by way of my personal home. It is a quid pro quo for me. But I’m not every escort.

Both sides have to protect ourselves but you have the advantage of reading reviews and therefore knowing that some escorts, like myself, can be trusted. Escorts who have built a reputation of being professional.

We don’t get this luxury so we have to take the little precautions we can. I will pass on the cash if I can’t have the basics of screening. Thankfully there are plenty of men for me and women for you who will accept our individual ways of using this industry. I have never failed to meet the quota I have set for myself.

It is funny when thinking about it though. I just had a guy a couple of weeks ago refuse to give his number at first because it is his business number as well and with a google search I could find out his business etc. I don’t normally continue a conversation with a text app but I can read people well and he was a gentleman. He did finally give the number after talking a bit. We had a great date, he extended by 2 hours, we had dinner, it was awesome. I still have no idea what his business is. I never googled it. I have no idea about his job. LOL. but I personally don’t care about his job. Why would I? Does that sound rude???? LOL sorry if it does but it is the truth.

It is sad that scammers and blackmailers and just overall an unprofessional women have made it difficult for pros like me. Just like horrible men have made it difficult for you guys.

I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how a burner that checks out as "not an app number" is any better than an app. From your point of view what makes that more trustworthy?

 

[justplainbob]

I am not having a stranger with no way to trace them, coming to my incall (which is my private personal home) where he can rape, rob or murder me.

And this right here is why we need to completely legalize the sex trade.

 

[Jenesis]

I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how a burner that checks out as "not an app number" is any better than an app. From your point of view what makes that more trustworthy?

I’m not going into public details of how you can still be found with a burner phone over a text app. Sorry. I’m not here to help you guys further evade screening. If you want to use a burner and feel comfortable that way - then go for it. I’m fine with you feeling that and continuing to use your burner phone. I know you all think you are being slick and that is cool. It is all about what makes each of us comfortable. Burner makes you comfortable and text apps make me uncomfortable.

Besides - IF we want to go based on your logic - what could I do? In your opinion, I don’t know it is burner phone right? So do you want to advocate for more screening? Is this why ladies should ask for ID and deposits? Because you make a great argument for it.

Or should escorts just all stop working? Because the risk is too high?

We all take risk. I can’t stop someone who wants to hurt me. I’m not stupid. I know this. I have had trauma before. I know what it is like when someone is hell bent on hurting you. So I’m not here to think I can stop someone. But I will track you down and you will be brought to justice and your friends and family will all know you harm sex workers and more. Hopefully that is enough of a deterrent.

And just as a FYI - if you think I only accept phone numbers and have no other means of tracing a person - you don’t know me very well. I will openly say to anyone who wants to see me. You will not be able to hide from police if you harm me. I make sure of that. So if you don’t want to be able to be tracked down - don’t see me or better yet - don’t harm me and we have no issues.

 

[Jenesis]

And this right here is why we need to completely legalize the sex trade.

That is not going to stop men from raping or beating women. If they want to do it - they will.

We now have the option to go to police were before we didn’t. When I had the attempted sexual assault in London a few years back - I would not have been able to go to police. But because of the law change - both London and Durham worked together to gather the evidence, take my statement and deal with the guy. ( I did not have him arrested, just “sternly” spoke too. He ripped the condom off in the heat of the moment and tried to re-enter bare without permission)

That difference in the law changes are good enough for us as escorts. But legalizing will not stop rapist and murderers. It just won’t. All it will do is make the government our pimps.

 

[bob.man]

That is not going to stop men from raping or beating women. If they want to do it - they will.

We now have the option to go to police were before we didn’t. When I had the attempted sexual assault in London a few years back - I would not have been able to go to police. But because of the law change - both London and Durham worked together to gather the evidence, take my statement and deal with the guy. ( I did not have him arrested, just “sternly” spoke too. He ripped the condom off in the heat of the moment and tried to re-enter bare without permission)

That difference in the law changes are good enough for us as escorts. But legalizing will not stop rapist and murderers. It just won’t. All it will do is make the government our pimps.

First point I agree it would stop it, but I do believe it will dramatically reduce it.

Because of second point.

More on second point, I am glad you were able to do that, and get the help that was needed.

It frustrates me still hearing about woman not going to the police is situations where they could be pimped or something else.

I am glad that women have that option, to do that just wish more did when needed.

But onto the other point of legalization of it.

It would then work both ways.

I have been assaulted punched in the face and robbed 2 times without service.
I can't do anything.

All I can do if make a review that makes it so people won't see them anymore, but that's vague enough that they wouldn't be able to tie it to this account, etc.

But not everyone using this review boards, and even if they do, not everyone bothers to do searches.

Or also they change their name, location, pictures because they are fake to begin with and do it all over again.

 

[Jenesis]

First point I agree it would stop it, but I do believe it will dramatically reduce it.

Because of second point.

More on second point, I am glad you were able to do that, and get the help that was needed.

It frustrates me still hearing about woman not going to the police is situations where they could be pimped or something else.

I am glad that women have that option, to do that just wish more did when needed.

But onto the other point of legalization of it.

It would then work both ways.

I have been assaulted punched in the face and robbed 2 times without service.
I can't do anything.

All I can do if make a review that makes it so people won't see them anymore, but that's vague enough that they wouldn't be able to tie it to this account, etc.

But not everyone using this review boards, and even if they do, not everyone bothers to do searches.

Or also they change their name, location, pictures because they are fake to begin with and do it all over again.

This is true. Very true. I didn’t address the male equivalent to the law because he only addressed my one situation.

What we should have is decriminalization. This would keep the government out of it for us and make it possible for both sides to safely go to the police when scammed, robbed, beaten, etc.

I’m sorry you have had the negative experiences that you have had.

 

[justplainbob]

I’m not going into public details of how you can still be found with a burner phone over a text app. Sorry. I’m not here to help you guys further evade screening. If you want to use a burner and feel comfortable that way - then go for it. I’m fine with you feeling that and continuing to use your burner phone. I know you all think you are being slick and that is cool. It is all about what makes each of us comfortable. Burner makes you comfortable and text apps make me uncomfortable.

Besides - IF we want to go based on your logic - what could I do? In your opinion, I don’t know it is burner phone right? So do you want to advocate for more screening? Is this why ladies should ask for ID and deposits? Because you make a great argument for it.

Or should escorts just all stop working? Because the risk is too high?

We all take risk. I can’t stop someone who wants to hurt me. I’m not stupid. I know this. I have had trauma before. I know what it is like when someone is hell bent on hurting you. So I’m not here to think I can stop someone. But I will track you down and you will be brought to justice and your friends and family will all know you harm sex workers and more. Hopefully that is enough of a deterrent.

And just as a FYI - if you think I only accept phone numbers and have no other means of tracing a person - you don’t know me very well. I will openly say to anyone who wants to see me. You will not be able to hide from police if you harm me. I make sure of that. So if you don’t want to be able to be tracked down - don’t see me or better yet - don’t harm me and we have no issues.

I don't know why such a simple question and comment generated such hostile responses. I'm sorry if I triggered you.

 

[bob.man]

This is true. Very true. I didn’t address the male equivalent to the law because he only addressed my one situation.

What we should have is decriminalization. This would keep the government out of it for us and make it possible for both sides to safely go to the police when scammed, robbed, beaten, etc.

I’m sorry you have had the negative experiences that you have had.

This is why I use a app to message and like you do another type of verification.

So needless to say I don't see many people.

But I am safe, and my risk is reduced.

Like you said everyone has to figure what's best for them.

 

[Jenesis]

I don't know why such a simple question and comment generated such hostile responses. I'm sorry if I triggered you.

There is no hostility here. None at all. You have to be reading my tone completely wrong.

This is not even strong opinion or enthusiastic debating or disagreeing. I swear, I’m just having a conversation.

 

[Jenesis]

If you think Jenesis's responses are hostile, you live a very, very sheltered life showflake.

I read no, in fact zero, hostility in her responses. She's disagreeing. What is it about you that sees disagreement = hostility? The fact that she's a) a woman b) an escort, c) or both?

I honestly think he just read my tone wrong. Not that disagreeing is automatically hostile.

It is the age old talk vrs text issue. If we were face to face, he wouldn’t feel this way even if I was disagreeing. At least I don’t think.

 

[walleyejack]

Same as always, starts out as a general post, this time on replies, then it gets hi jacked again, this time murder and such..
SMH
start a new thread then

 

[bob.man]

If you think Jenesis's responses are hostile, you live a very, very sheltered life showflake.

I read no, in fact zero, hostility in her responses. She's disagreeing. What is it about you that sees disagreement = hostility? The fact that she's a) a woman b) an escort, c) or both?

Most people see disagree as hostile, it's all over the news.

It is very unfortunate, because very good discussions come from disagreements.

 

[Jenesis]

you might be the exception, not the norm in terms of having a roster of clients and you say you keep their private info confidential. But that is not the norm, just like if you as a provider accept people who dont have a proper number, it might invite rape/ possible murder... thats a fair concern

but because you are the exception, not the norm, Im not comfortable with sharing my number with the average SP.. I hope you get what Im saying.
Hence, I block any and every message exchange after 30 minutes of exchange, because the norm is just not trustworthy and I have a SO.

I get it and that is a good tip. To block the number after some time.

I try to help men as much as I can. Get them to check reviews. I put in my LL ad how to search for them. Hopefully guys can learn to do their research. I’m not that special. LOL. There are other exceptions to the rule out here in Durham. But I can understand that there are just as many unprofessionals out there.

Like I said - it sucks that both sides have been screwed over and now we both have to take precautions that make it difficult for good people to meet and simply have a good time.

 

[bob.man]

Just got a next day message;

Saying they were going to lose the hotel, unless they get 100, can I help out..they were robbed and have nothing.

I responded, did you report it etc etc..

They were like it was in the room..

I was like, there are cameras outside your room and outside the hotel..

Cops could track the progress, and find persons vehicle and go arrest them get your money back and prevent other women like you from getting robbed too.


Nothing..

Sounds like a hopeful etransfer..

 

[Jenesis]

Just got a next day message;

Saying they were going to lose the hotel, unless they get 100, can I help out..they were robbed and have nothing.

I responded, did you report it etc etc..

They were like it was in the room..

I was like, there are cameras outside your room and outside the hotel..

Cops could track the progress, and find persons vehicle and go arrest them get your money back and prevent other women like you from getting robbed too.


Nothing..

Sounds like a hopeful etransfer..

Have you been with this girl before? Like you saw her yesterday and she sent this to you?

Sorry if these are stupid questions but I just can’t imagine it. Like it doesn’t compute in my head because I just don’t think like this.

 

[bob.man]

Have you been with this girl before? Like you saw her yesterday and she sent this to you?

Sorry if these are stupid questions but I just can’t imagine it. Like it doesn’t compute in my head because I just don’t think like this.

No..
Messaged a few days ago, no reply.

Messaged yesterday, 3+ hours later got a response back being like hey, then I believe a message that was meant for someone else.
I didn't reply because I was no longer available.

Then today the message asking for some help with money or she would lose the hotel.

 

[Jenesis]

No..
Messaged a few days ago, no reply.

Messaged yesterday, 3+ hours later got a response back being like hey, then I believe a message that was meant for someone else.
I didn't reply because I was no longer available.

Then today the message asking for some help with money or she would lose the hotel.

Wow! I don’t get some people. I really don’t. Like why???? Do guys actually give money???? I guess you wouldn’t know. LOL.

Thanks for sharing. Again, sorry you had to deal with such unprofessional behaviour

 

[bob.man]

Wow! I don’t get some people. I really don’t. Like why???? Do guys actually give money???? I guess you wouldn’t know. LOL.

Thanks for sharing. Again, sorry you had to deal with such unprofessional behaviour

Now this one very well could be true.

It has happened before and it will happen again, but if it is.. why wouldn't they call the cops.

But the way I look at it, there wouldn't be the countless $20 deposit ads out there that are clearly scammers.

I don't know how much it costs to put an ad up, but it costs something and they wouldn't be putting them up if they weren't scammer people.

It's unfortunate really.

All it would take is reading a lot of reviews here and that would cut down a lot of the ones getting scammed, but I bet there are countless who don't know of this review boards.


Iuno, all I can do is try to reduce risks to myself, and share tips or suggestions for others.

 

[justplainbob]

Oh, I can guess what he'd be feeling if he was face to face with you

Been there, done that, and still have the T-shirt. So no, I'm not a random troll who hasn't never met Jenesis, she's a lovely person and highly skilled in her profession.

 

[justplainbob]

There is no hostility here. None at all. You have to be reading my tone completely wrong.

This is not even strong opinion or enthusiastic debating or disagreeing. I swear, I’m just having a conversation.

Holy cow, I go to work for the day and now everybody hates me.

I'd say talk vs. text on both our parts. Tone is a hard thing over text, and you can't interrupt someone's response if they misheard or misunderstood you.

"I’m not going into public details of how you can still be found with a burner phone over a text app. Sorry. I’m not here to help you guys further evade screening."

I only asked why you trusted a phone that could easily be a burner over than an app. That's it.

Maybe hostile wasn't a good choice of words, but to me your answer sure sounded like you thought I had bad intentions for simply asking the question.

/Bob