Newsweek - Climate change report puts world on 'fast track' to disaster: U.N.
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the oil industry has advanced and improved the human condition beyond our grandfathers' greatest dreams. the climate warriors have done and accomplished exactly ZERO for the humanity.
That's like bragging how rich people have gotten selling guns and saying the NRA is good for humanity.
Scientists have given us way more than oil execs.
Please explain the physics underlying your conclusion that humans are accelerating natural climate change ?
Have you been to the carabean in the past few years? Many of the beaches are now full of sargassum weed. Those are good filtering weeds in the Atlantic ocean. Because of Brazil deforestation pollution and heavy fertilizer these weeds now detach from the floor of the ocean polluting the beaches of all the carabean (even up to florida).
That is not an explanation of the physics underlying your conclusion that humans are accelerating natural climate change
That is your perceived view of events for which you are making a multitude of assumptions (most of which are likely incorrect assumptions)
BTW
1, Weeds have been washing up on shore since long before man ever appear on the planet
2. Seaweed is not pollution
3. Seaweed does not define climate
Again
Please explain the physics underlying your conclusion that humans are accelerating natural climate change ?
I do not believe you understand the physics of the issue, yet you have a uncompromising position on the issue
The help you need is here.
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The European countries that stayed in the agreement and pledged their ongoing allegiance are currently spending up to $850 million (US) a day buying oil and gas from Russia.
By contrast, the U.S. had achieved energy independence during the years it was out of the agreement and actually lowered its man-made emissions.
If you genuinely believe the world must reduce its emissions, then you're pretty much forced to realize U.N. gabfests won't get you anywhere.
A "couple of hundred years"???
You seriously believe it's even remotely possible to predict what the future could hold in "a couple of hundred years."
Do you have any idea how much progress has occurred in the past 100 years alone, never mind a couple of hundred years.
Predictions about "a couple of hundred years" might as well include the Klingons and Romulans, since it is 100% impossible to make any predictions about life on this planet hundreds of years from now or how mankind will interact with the planet at that time.
100% impossible.
Of course its totally impossible for you, you couldn't even predict one year's temperature.
But scientists are really quite a bit smarter than you and actually do their homework.
So while its totally incomprehensible for someone with your understanding, don't assume that's true for smart people.
If you're insulted by that comment, feel free to read the source report and see if you can follow it.
If you can, I'd be happy to take back my assessment of your intellect and education.
Until then, the report says if we do nothing we'd be head to a thermal maximum in 100-150 years.
The sargassum seaweeds is just one example. There is many more example.
Regarding the sargassum seaweeds look at this:
Sargassum: The biggest seaweed bloom in the world
Known as the Great Atlantic Sargassum Belt, the seaweed stretches from West Africa to the Gulf of Mexico.
www.bbc.com
I used to go to the carabean twice per year for about 20 year before 2020. Since 2016 I would say half my trip we could not go into the ocean, often not even be on the beach as the smell of the seaweeds is horrible.
That is not an explanation of the physics underlying your conclusion that humans are accelerating natural climate change
That is your perceived view of events for which you are making a multitude of assumptions (most of which are likely incorrect assumptions)
That is not an explanation of the physics underlying your conclusion that humans are accelerating natural climate change
That is your perceived view of events for which you are making a multitude of assumptions (most of which are likely incorrect assumptions)
I
That is not an explanation of the physics underlying your conclusion that humans are accelerating natural climate change
That is your perceived view of events for which you are making a multitude of assumptions (most of which are likely incorrect assumptions)
Not at all. You cannot ignore the realities of the times. Covid changed things, Ukraine changed things etc. It is very easy to simply talk in absolutes and simplistic solutions etc. Leaders have to deal with the realities of the world they find it and make difficult complex decisions which balance multiple interests. When facts change you have to adapt. the failure or refusal to do so in the problem with the extreme ends of both the left and the right.
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200 years is not even a fart in a human history, never mind the history of this planet. The fossil fuels powered us into the modern era and provided us with all the benefits like longer lives, health care, mastery over hunger, scientific and technological progress.
In 200 years we have:
Nearly hunted whales in to extinction
Overfished 50% of fish stocks
Started the Sixth Great Extinction
Increased the temperature of the planet 1ºC, when 6ºC increase would be a thermal maximum
Reached the point where we are adding the same amount of heat as 5 Hiroshimas every second to the oceans
Reached the point where we cut down 5 million hectares of forest every year
Be a shame to blow all the progress by screwing up the climate so big parts of the world can't grow crops, raising oceans and dealing with ever worse forest fires, floods and storms.
The argument of the deniers is simply that the previous predictions of climate catastrophe have not been correct and therefore we need do nothing because these consequences will never arrive. That is like saying a train will never arrive just because it is late. Does anyone seriously believe that spewing all that carbon into the atmosphere will have no long term deleterious effect regardless when it may occur. Even if it does not happen in our lifetimes there is no doubt that train is coming down the tracks. Our children and grandchildren will pay the price for our stupidity.
