New Invermectin ad campaign for fighting Covid-19

seagerbuzz

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Is that why I support vaccines and you're backing horse dewormer?
I'm not backing a horse dewormer.over the vaccines. I'm backing a proven medication that won a Nobel prize over unproven new type of vaccine that has side effects and is proven to be ineffective and doesn't even do what a vaccine is suppose to do.
 

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I'm not backing a horse dewormer.over the vaccines. I'm backing a proven medication that won a Nobel prize over unproven new type of vaccine that has side effects and is proven to be ineffective and doesn't even do what a vaccine is suppose to do.
Oh, what medicine is proven and won a Nobel against COVID?
 

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It's a proven medicine period. The vaccines haven't proven shit against covid.
You're saying that you think invermectin is a Nobel winning, proven medication against COVID?

Or is the fact that its only proven to get rid of your worms, give you the runs and a limp dick close enough?
 

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You do know that there is an ivermectin for human use and that the media is way overplaying this horse paste horse shit right.
Not the case. We all are aware of Ivermectin and the medicinal uses on humans. It is prescribed by a Doctor for those medicinal uses. However, the manner in which the alt right online conspiracy theorists have blown up the Ivermectin treatment of this Covid-19 infections has meant that those who refused to be vaccinated have taken in on themselves to acquire the ones prescribed for horses and other animals. That is the huge issue. Remember not so long ago when a certain POTUS was promoting Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine for the same kind of reasons, and the usual alt right wing conspiracy theorists managed to persuade those wanting to "protect themselves" against such a virus then resorting to Fish Tank Disinfectants that contained Chloroquine as their God Sent Weapon to combat this virus. We all know what the final outcomes were!!
 

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Not the case. We all are aware of Ivermectin and the medicinal uses on humans. It is prescribed by a Doctor for those medicinal uses. However, the manner in which the alt right online conspiracy theorists have blown up the Ivermectin treatment of this Covid-19 infections has meant that those who refused to be vaccinated have taken in on themselves to acquire the ones prescribed for horses and other animals. That is the huge issue. Remember not so long ago when a certain POTUS was promoting Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine for the same kind of reasons, and the usual alt right wing conspiracy theorists managed to persuade those wanting to "protect themselves" against such a virus then resorting to Fish Tank Disinfectants that contained Chloroquine as their God Sent Weapon to combat this virus. We all know what the final outcomes were!!
And who is going to touch research into hydroxy or ivermectin or any other politicized drug once it has been demonized, ridiculed and even subjected to the fake news treatment? Israel has ongoing studies at the human trials level right now; a couple of them very promising. YET, hardly any publicity around those trials. And why is that? Because the political class promised the "vaccine solution". I don't have a big problem with that, but I thought that we were in a crisis and in such situation, a prudent person, puts ALL options on the table. When your house is on fire and someone says- don't try that door because I think it's locked- what do you do, not try? WTF is going on?

BTW, a little something to think about.
 
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It's a proven medicine period. The vaccines haven't proven shit against covid.
Where are you getting this data of yours that the vaccines have not be proven to be effective against Covid? Of course the vaccines were very effective against the original strains of the Covid-19 virus. However, when the Covid-19 mutates then like the Influenza, the vaccines are also modified over time as they become less effective against the more recent strains such as the Delta one. That means you can get infected but the chances of you being admitted to hospital is far more remote than not taking a jab in your arms. Ivermectin has no proven efficacy against this virus. Otherwise, please post the data to indicate so, or even the medical institutions that prescribe it in the fight against those infected. My relative who is an Epidemiologist and is doing a lot of research in this field would be pleased to approach those institutions to reveal such data!!
 

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You're saying that you think invermectin is a Nobel winning, proven medication against COVID?

Or is the fact that its only proven to get rid of your worms, give you the runs and a limp dick close enough?
I never once said it is proven against covid. I said doctors around the globe claim it does.
 

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And who is going to touch research into hydroxy or ivermectin or any other politicized drug once it has been demonized, ridiculed and even subjected to the fake news treatment? Israel has ongoing studies at the human trials level right now; a couple of them very promising. YET, hardly any publicity around those trials. And why is that? Because the political class promised the "vaccine solution". I don't have a big problem with that, but I thought that we were in a crisis and in such situation, a prudent person, puts ALL options on the table. When your house is on fire and someone says- don't try that door because I think it's locked- what do you do, not try? WTF is going on?
This is a conspiracy theory that only the Anti-vaccine deniers would buy!!

BTW, a little something to think about.
Something to scrutinize before you buy certain "leaked webinars":

Novant responds to leaked webinar critical of the unvaccinated population
clip from a local healthcare provider’s meeting is going viral.

The video that is being shared across social media features three Novant / New Hanover Regional Medical Center employees, the president of NHRMC Shelbourn Stevens, Doctor Mary Kathryn Rudyk, and Director of Marketing Carolyn Fisher, discussing COVID communication.

Dr. Rudyk can be seen and heard saying, “Maybe we need to be completely a little more scary for the public.”

They discuss including men and women still in the hospital after recovering from COVID in COVID case numbers.

“There are many people still hospitalized that we’re considering post-COVID,” Rudyk continued, “so how do we include post-COVID in the number of patients we have in the hospital?”

“So is that all the people who have been in the hospital since the beginning of COVID?” Carolyn Fisher asked. They clarified it meant post-COVID patients still in the hospital after testing negative.

Towards the end, Dr. Rudyk says, “you know if you don’t get vaccinated, you are going to die. *laugh* Let’s just be really blunt with these people.”

A spokesman with the hospital released the following statement in response to the video.

“The team members involved in this excerpt of an internal meeting are seeing the highest level of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths so far in this pandemic – despite having safe and effective vaccines widely available. This was a frank discussion among medical and communications professionals on how we can more accurately convey the severity and seriousness of what’s happening inside of our hospitals and throughout our communities. Specifically, the data we have been sharing does not include patients who remain hospitalized for COVID-19 complications even though they are no longer COVID-19 positive, so it does not provide a complete picture of the total impact of COVID-19 on our patients and on our hospitals. We continue to be concerned with the amount of misinformation in our communities and consistently strive for more ways to be transparent and tell the whole story. The continued rise of hospitalizations makes it evident that we have more work to do to reach our communities with these messages.”

 
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There are a bunch under study.
Hell, Ivermectin is still under study even though it isn't promising.

I doubt very much we are going to see a magic bullet treatment.
Something that is prophylactic would be great (if you think you have a contact, take it before symptoms show up) and something that is easy to take upon first sign of symptoms would be great.
The problem is I expect most in either category would not likely be over the counter oral or other wise simple to take, which is what people really want.
We do have some treatments that do actually help a tad and have cut down on the death rate

Dexamethasone
monoclonal antibody treatments and remdesivir which helps a tad to speed up recovery.

but yeah, no magic bullet yet unfortunately.
 
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Not the case. We all are aware of Ivermectin and the medicinal uses on humans. It is prescribed by a Doctor for those medicinal uses. However, the manner in which the alt right online conspiracy theorists have blown up the Ivermectin treatment of this Covid-19 infections has meant that those who refused to be vaccinated have taken in on themselves to acquire the ones prescribed for horses and other animals. That is the huge issue. Remember not so long ago when a certain POTUS was promoting Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine for the same kind of reasons, and the usual alt right wing conspiracy theorists managed to persuade those wanting to "protect themselves" against such a virus then resorting to Fish Tank Disinfectants that contained Chloroquine as their God Sent Weapon to combat this virus. We all know what the final outcomes were!!
Didn't Phil McNasty post repeatedly about how hydroxychloroquine was going to save us all?
Right wingers are such easy marks.
I guess that's why Alex Jones sold so much snake oil and people still think T-rump was interested in their good.
 
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We do have some treatments that do actually help a tad and have cut down on the death rate

Dexamethasone
monoclonal antibody treatments and remdesivir which helps a tad to speed up recovery.

but yeah, no magic bullet yet unfortunately.
There are more than that.
There have been a whole bunch of studies that were just taking cheap, existing drugs, and running tests to see what shows promise. Only a few even looked worth pursuing, but they are there.
And, of course, things like the monoclonal antibodies you still need to go in for treatment.
One of the major reasons the CFR went down is we have gotten better at treatment, which is big. Obviously, a quick and easy treatment that showed real promise would be huge.
 
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