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Not sure how anyone else's Netflix works, but mine doesn't download anything, it only streams it. Once seen, it's gone, not residing on any of my equipment. Is it against the law? I guess in the same sense as using a Directv dish in Canada is. Has any owner of a Directv dish in Canada ever been charged? I think the sellers of that gear has, but not the consumer.

Looks like streaming is now also illegal


Copyright holders can request Internet service providers – the companies that provide you with Internet access – relay warnings to people monitored participating in illegal downloading - via streaming services or torrents.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dai...-copyright-protection-laws-now-185628067.html
 

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Looks like streaming is now also illegal


Copyright holders can request Internet service providers – the companies that provide you with Internet access – relay warnings to people monitored participating in illegal downloading - via streaming services or torrents.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dai...-copyright-protection-laws-now-185628067.html
If you were streaming ILLEGAL content from a website without the rights then that would make sense; however in the case of masking your IP address you are accessing the servers of the STREAMING service (Netflix) directly just tricking it into thinking you are in a different place thus enabling you to enjoy content that wouldn't otherwise be available in your country. You still need a PAID subscription to the Netflix service to access it.

Like bver_hunter you are also misunderstanding what is being said, the article you linked DOES NOT say that streaming is illegal (Netflix, News Networks etc and all similar services would go out of business) it is saying that streaming from UNPAID ILLEGAL websites AKA free websites without the copyrights or licenses may be monitored.
 

explorerzip

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That's the point, we aren't downloading anything. The post I replied to was asking whether using unblockus or similar sites to gain US Netflix would run afoul of that new anti-downloading law.
For now, businesses like Unblockus are legal so you're technically not running afoul of any laws as far as I know.
 

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If you were streaming ILLEGAL content from a website without the rights then that would make sense; however in the case of masking your IP address you are accessing the servers of the STREAMING service (Netflix) directly just tricking it into thinking you are in a different place thus enabling you to enjoy content that wouldn't otherwise be available in your country. You still need a PAID subscription to the Netflix service to access it.

Like bver_hunter you are also misunderstanding what is being said, the article you linked DOES NOT say that streaming is illegal (Netflix, News Networks etc and all similar services would go out of business) it is saying that streaming from UNPAID ILLEGAL websites AKA free websites without the copyrights or licenses may be monitored.
Yeah exactly. Streaming in of itself is not illegal since there are many legit sites like NetFlix, YouTube and Pandora have the rights to the content. If you recorded a movie in the theatre with your phone or made a copy of your Blu ray or DVD and ran a server at home so that anyone could watch, that would be illegal.
 

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Yeah exactly. Streaming in of itself is not illegal since there are many legit sites like NetFlix, YouTube and Pandora have the rights to the content. If you recorded a movie in the theatre with your phone or made a copy of your Blu ray or DVD and ran a server at home so that anyone could watch, that would be illegal.
haha , WATCHING videos from illegal or unlicensed streaming sites is now ILLEGAL
 

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haha , WATCHING videos from illegal or unlicensed streaming sites is now ILLEGAL
Dude as I already pointed out you area answering your own question: watching UNLICENSED content whether it's streaming, downloaded, DVD, flash drive, VHS, Blue Ray, Braille or whatever is ILLEGAL and always was illegal as I already pointed out. If you want to avoid issues just subscribe to a damn paid service or form a group so you guys can picket outside the headquarters of the defunct Blockbuster and get them to open again... Better yet, maybe start your own LEGAL subscriber based service of LICENSED content and be a good capitalist.
 

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Netflix VPN access locked down for overseas users

http://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-vpn-access-lock-down-overseas-users-geoblock/

Netflix VPN access locked down for overseas users


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Movie studios and rights holders may well have received their Christmas wish, with reports that Netflix has begun blocking users attempting to skirt around geoblocks on its US service by using a VPN.

The news comes after a major industry group representing rights holders and distributors confirmed that its members were lobbying Netflix in the United States to see the US version of the service blocked for users outside that region.

Netflix is currently available in nearly 50 countries worldwide, with content varying by location according to local licensing arrangements. However, in regions where the service is not available, including Australia, residents can still access the US iteration of Netflix using a VPN or similar IP-masking tools. In Australia alone, as many as 200,000 households access US Netflix according to figures cited by the company.

Those users could soon be blocked from using the service, according to new reports.

TorrentFreak reports that Netflix has begun forcing Google DNS lookup on its Android app (through an update to version 3.7.2), meaning that the app bypasses any DNS masking tools set up by the user. The problem has already been identified by VPN services including UnoDNS, Unblockus and TorGuard.

"This is a brand new development," TorGuard's Ben Van der Pelt told TorrentFreak. "A few weeks ago we received the first report from a handful of clients that Netflix blocked access due to VPN or proxy usage. This is the very first time I've ever heard Netflix displaying this type of error message to a VPN user.

"I have a sneaking suspicion that Netflix may be testing these new IP blocking methods temporarily in certain markets. At this time the blocks do not seem aggressive and may only be targeted at IP ranges that exceed too many simultaneous logins."

Despite reports that the service is being locked down, Netflix has denied any new developments.

"There have been no changes to our VPN policies," a Netflix spokesperson said.

On a recent visit to Australia ahead of the company's launch in that region, Netflix Director of Corporate Communications and Technology Cliff Edwards went some way to outline the company's policy on VPNs. However, despite repeated questioning, Edwards would not be drawn on whether the company would begin blocking Australian VPN users from accessing the US Netflix after the local launch.

"We say very specifically that VPNs violate the terms of our service, and we believe very much so that anybody who licenses content should get paid for their content," he said. "We hear a lot in every market about this, and what we tend to find too is that, after launch, these issues drop significantly."
 

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You can get on Netflix immediately - nothing to download - on your computer, first month is free.

If you want it on your TV you must have something smart such as a game boy, if you do not you can buy a smart box.
 

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Today's news....


Netflix VPN access locked down for overseas users

http://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-vpn-access-lock-down-overseas-users-geoblock/

Netflix VPN access locked down for overseas users


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Movie studios and rights holders may well have received their Christmas wish, with reports that Netflix has begun blocking users attempting to skirt around geoblocks on its US service by using a VPN.

The news comes after a major industry group representing rights holders and distributors confirmed that its members were lobbying Netflix in the United States to see the US version of the service blocked for users outside that region.

Netflix is currently available in nearly 50 countries worldwide, with content varying by location according to local licensing arrangements. However, in regions where the service is not available, including Australia, residents can still access the US iteration of Netflix using a VPN or similar IP-masking tools. In Australia alone, as many as 200,000 households access US Netflix according to figures cited by the company.

Those users could soon be blocked from using the service, according to new reports.

TorrentFreak reports that Netflix has begun forcing Google DNS lookup on its Android app (through an update to version 3.7.2), meaning that the app bypasses any DNS masking tools set up by the user. The problem has already been identified by VPN services including UnoDNS, Unblockus and TorGuard.

"This is a brand new development," TorGuard's Ben Van der Pelt told TorrentFreak. "A few weeks ago we received the first report from a handful of clients that Netflix blocked access due to VPN or proxy usage. This is the very first time I've ever heard Netflix displaying this type of error message to a VPN user.

"I have a sneaking suspicion that Netflix may be testing these new IP blocking methods temporarily in certain markets. At this time the blocks do not seem aggressive and may only be targeted at IP ranges that exceed too many simultaneous logins."

Despite reports that the service is being locked down, Netflix has denied any new developments.

"There have been no changes to our VPN policies," a Netflix spokesperson said.

On a recent visit to Australia ahead of the company's launch in that region, Netflix Director of Corporate Communications and Technology Cliff Edwards went some way to outline the company's policy on VPNs. However, despite repeated questioning, Edwards would not be drawn on whether the company would begin blocking Australian VPN users from accessing the US Netflix after the local launch.

"We say very specifically that VPNs violate the terms of our service, and we believe very much so that anybody who licenses content should get paid for their content," he said. "We hear a lot in every market about this, and what we tend to find too is that, after launch, these issues drop significantly."
It's odd to me that there would be a rights issue for some movies since most of them had worldwide releases. Would it not make sense to open up the content to everyone around the world so that there is no incentive to use a VPN service in the first place? Then again, businesses never do what makes sense.
 

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You can get on Netflix immediately - nothing to download - on your computer, first month is free.

If you want it on your TV you must have something smart such as a game boy, if you do not you can buy a smart box.
As far as I know you can access NetFlix on a Nintendo 3DS, which is the newest iteration of the Game Boy. don't think you can output from a 3DS to a TV though. There are plenty of other ways to watch NetFlix on a TV including game console: Wii, WiiU, Xbox, Playstation, PC or streaming sticks like Roku, Apple TV and Chromecast. You could also connect your phone or tablet with a HDMI cable to your TV.
 

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It's odd to me that there would be a rights issue for some movies since most of them had worldwide releases. Would it not make sense to open up the content to everyone around the world so that there is no incentive to use a VPN service in the first place? Then again, businesses never do what makes sense.
If caught you can lose both Netflix and your internet provider
 

explorerzip

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If caught you can lose both Netflix and your internet provider
I wasn't saying that you should use a VPN service to access NetFlix! Again, I was saying that the rights holders should open up the content to more countries so that there is no incentive to use a VPN. Many movies get a world wide release so I don't understand why they can't do the same for NetFlix.
 

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Very poor and ill informed post. Nobody is going to sue you for watching US netflix as others have pointed out you aren't downloading anything you are streaming. Maybe you misunderstood but services like HOLA which has been discussed as an option to allow you to access Netflix from different countries is a proxy that tricks the Netflix servers into thinking you are in a different country other than Canada thus enabling you to access content from all countries Netflix is available.
I clearly asked a question so I do not know what is your gripe about it!!
 

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As far as I know you can access NetFlix on a Nintendo 3DS, which is the newest iteration of the Game Boy. don't think you can output from a 3DS to a TV though. There are plenty of other ways to watch NetFlix on a TV including game console: Wii, WiiU, Xbox, Playstation, PC or streaming sticks like Roku, Apple TV and Chromecast. You could also connect your phone or tablet with a HDMI cable to your TV.
get it for free on the net for a month to decide if you want to buy the Roku


just got it and it is great but after a while I suspect I will stop watching as the movies are older but lots of documentaries and older tv shows


For 8 $ a month it seems worth it


I might cancel rogers TV, keep the internet (you need the net provider to get netflix as netflix does not provide the net), and get a HD antenna
 

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get it for free on the net for a month to decide if you want to buy the Roku


just got it and it is great but after a while I suspect I will stop watching as the movies are older but lots of documentaries and older tv shows


For 8 $ a month it seems worth it


I might cancel rogers TV, keep the internet (you need the net provider to get netflix as netflix does not provide the net), and get a HD antenna
NetFlix also has its original content like House of Cards and Orange is the New Black, which are quite good IMO. It is true the movies are older, but at least you're not paying $50+ for them on cable or for commercials. If you want pay per view movies, there's always Google Play.
 

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For the US streaming do you use a US PayPal or Canadian one?
 
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