Agreed, both posts have great points. An excellent topic with great points from all sides.Captain Fantastic said:Well said TheNiteHwk and Robinto.
Naltrexone and similar meds help alleviate the craving for alcohol and are used in conjunction with other modalities like counseling. The meds work well but are not a long term solution. I can say that stopping drinking was the easy part. Its dealing with why you drink that is the challenge (counseling).
Having actually gone the AA route i have to add that as a non-believer i to was somewhat turned off by the God references but stayed quiet and just listened. My higher power turned out to be sobriety itself.
Regarding the success of AA, all i can comment on is what i saw while there. It is not the answer for everyone but the rate was in my estimation about 60%. Most were also getting "other" help. The more "help" the better chance of winning. It takes more than a few meetings!
It is important to note that my estimation is based on actually being in the program and seeing the results in person.
While it may sound as if i am promoting AA, in fact i am not. It may sound callous but i don't give a rat's a** if you attend or not. It's you (if you are an alcoholic) that needs to care. I can beg and plead but if you don't want it, i am just wasting my time. Bin der dun dat.
Regardless of our opinions on what meds or services work or not, the biggest factor in finding your way back from any addiction is the acceptance of the problem and the desire to to something about it. Whatever choice you make, let it be one that moves you forward.
Great thread and lots of fantastic views.
To Robinto on "Penn & Teller". While their shows are "entertainment" they are so often bang on the money.






