Nearly 60 per cent of Canadians find it difficult to feed their families, poll finds

Mr.Know-It-All

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Things are getting very expensive... now we begin paying for all the covid shutdowns and "free" money goodies from the past 2 years.
 

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Things are getting very expensive... now we begin paying for all the covid shutdowns and "free" money goodies from the past 2 years.
People were happy with their cerb benefits but it was money they could have earned if they worked. Now everyone has to pay for their free money
 

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Things are getting very expensive... now we begin paying for all the covid shutdowns and "free" money goodies from the past 2 years.
(57%) Canadians say that it is currently difficult to feed their household. In 2019, when the Angus Reid Institute asked this same question, 36 per cent said this aspect of their finances was causing them difficulty.

I am not sure which whiny bunch of people they poll if 36% complained in 2019
 
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Meat and fresh produce are expensive. If you live in an apartment you cant have a farm, you can have a garden. Start growing your own food. How hard is it to grow romaine?
 

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Eat more veggies and less meat. It is healthier for you.

Trivia - Chinese food became popular during WWII in the USA due to rationing. It was hard to find meat to buy even if you had money during the war. It was also illegal to buy more than your ration you were allowed. Meat and potatoes were common in families of European origin, but when war broke out there were acute shortages of fresh meat. Chinese restaurants made delicious meals with vegetables, noodles, rice, sauce and the small portion of meat that was allowed by war ration regulations. Dining at Chinese restaurants became an in thing for the rich and famous at that time, and stars like Bob Hope and Bing Crosby were shown on news reels presented between films at theaters dining at Chinese restaurants.
 

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Many, but not all, of the people having difficulty feeding their families would not have this difficulty if they did not regularly buy donuts and coffees at Tim Horton's, if they bought no lottery tickets, if they cooked their meals instead of buying fast food from restaurants, and if they read supermarket flyers and bought staples in bulk when they are on sale. They would also have more money if they made purchases with cash instead of with a debit card, or if they deposited cheques to a bank account instead of cashing them early at a Money Mart. People on low incomes should buy what they NEED first, and what they WANT with whatever money is left, not the other way around.

There is no shortage of places to eat for free. Many Churches have a free meal offering to the general public weekly. There are many charitable organizations offering free food to anyone who shows up. Someone who is 'too proud' to accept a handout from a soup kitchen usually isn't too proud to beg for spare change at the corner of a downtown intersection. When a low income person tries to get money from others no better off financially, it's called "Shitting where you eat", and it usually only works on those who are 'new'. Word gets around quickly if someone has a reputation for not saying no.

There are those who are truly needy, but a lot more who are merely 'wanty'.
 

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Many, but not all, of the people having difficulty feeding their families would not have this difficulty if they did not regularly buy donuts and coffees at Tim Horton's, if they bought no lottery tickets, if they cooked their meals instead of buying fast food from restaurants, and if they read supermarket flyers and bought staples in bulk when they are on sale. They would also have more money if they made purchases with cash instead of with a debit card, or if they deposited cheques to a bank account instead of cashing them early at a Money Mart. People on low incomes should buy what they NEED first, and what they WANT with whatever money is left, not the other way around.
The little things can definitely add up.

Of all the things you mentioned, the Money Mart thing is the absolute stupidest. That's just like throwing money out of the window on the 401.
 
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The poll shows many Canadians actually understand what food insecurity is. Yes, it sure costs a lot more to get prime rib and some people may need to actually plan to afford luxuries but that is very different from worrying whether your kids will be able to eat. I definitely had a few meals as a kid sharing a damaged box of KD or plain rice with my brother while mom claimed to have already eaten so I get the concern but we are still far from 60% of people running out of options. I wonder how many of those 60% are simply to proud to shop at No Frills?
 

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[QUOTE="onomatopoeia, post: 7373094, member: 305314"

There are those who are truly needy, but a lot more who are merely 'wanty'.
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Great quote.
 

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The only thing this poll proves is that a huge chunk of the public doesn't know what "difficulty" and food insecurity actually is.
I bet you there are people on that poll claiming they're having trouble even though they take 2+ vacations a year, have the latest phone for every member of their family, and have three cars in the driveway.
That's not financial insecurity. That's financial irresponsibility.
 
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I am always astounded when reading Financial Facelift in The Globe on Saturdays.
Yes, people profiled have money. But the food and incidentals spending floors me, as well as what they pay for cellular and media services.

I don't argue that food is getting more expensive. We eat less red meat these days . Ground beef only when on sale. Roast beef about maybe 4 times year, when on sale. More on sale chicken and pork. More rice less potatoes. Bone up when basics go on sale in the flyer. Do not buy boxed and prepared meals. Cook our own meals. Restaurants only on a family birthday if it is just us eating.

Will dine out when socializing.
Do host dinner parties regularly ( pre covid). It is way cheaper way to get the friends together than everyone at a restaurant where the alcohol bill will kill ya. .

I do a route usually Sunday mornings dumpster shopping. One holds day old buns from a deli place, one for the Saturday papers: sun, star, globe, spec and NYT one usually at least 30 empty beer cans, One sometimes has discards from a Shoppers.

The SDM was a gold mine two weeks a go. Looked like a skid of frozen goods got bumped and an ice cream container oozed its syrup over everything. I fished these items out, and wiped them with a dish rag when It got home. It has been below -5, all the time the stuff was in dumpster before I snagged it ( likerally, like with a gardening hoe)
So no worry about spoilage, and stuff is all in date.
6 frozen pizzas, 5 boxed chicken and fish items, lasagna, kd. ( who buys pre-made frozen kd - it is beyond me!) Plus about 9 Bryers ice cream containers.
So for past two weeks and week to come it has only been tomatoes, yogurt, green pepper, and the like on the grocery store trips.
 
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Has anyone in this thread making all these wild claims actually known anyone with food insecurity and what that actually looks like?

I would ask if any of you have experienced food insecurity but I’m going to assume no, again based on the replies.

Do any of you know single mothers with 2/3 kids and one income? Do you know seniors with no pension? Do you know people with disabilities who truly can’t work?
 
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Stagnant wages. Not mentioned here are the declining wages and work pensions for men that occured in the 1980s and 1990s(no, not alpha males,average males)and have not been reversed and are masked by "family income".
 
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I am always astounded when reading Financial Facelift in The Globe on Saturdays.
Yes, people profiled have money. But the food and incidentals spending floors me, as well as what they pay for cellular and media services.

I don't argue that food is getting more expensive. We eat less red meat these days . Ground beef only when on sale. Roast beef about maybe 4 times year, when on sale. More on sale chicken and pork. More rice less potatoes. Bone up when basics go on sale in the flyer. Do not buy boxed and prepared meals. Cook our own meals. Restaurants only on a family birthday if it is just us eating.

Will dine out when socializing.
Do host dinner parties regularly ( pre covid). It is way cheaper way to get the friends together than everyone at a restaurant where the alcohol bill will kill ya. .

I do a route usually Sunday mornings dumpster shopping. One holds day old buns from a deli place, one for the Saturday papers: sun, star, globe, spec and NYT one usually at least 30 empty beer cans, One sometimes has discards from a Shoppers.

The SDM was a gold mine two weeks a go. Looked like a skid of frozen goods got bumped and an ice cream container oozed its syrup over everything. I fished these items out, and wiped them with a dish rag when It got home. It has been below -5, all the time the stuff was in dumpster before I snagged it ( likerally, like with a gardening hoe)
So no worry about spoilage, and stuff is all in date.
6 frozen pizzas, 5 boxed chicken and fish items, lasagna, kd. ( who buys pre-made frozen kd - it is beyond me!) Plus about 9 Bryers ice cream containers.
So for past two weeks and week to come it has only been tomatoes, yogurt, green pepper, and the like on the grocery store trips.
Dumpster diving.....nice.
 

jeff2

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I am always astounded when reading Financial Facelift in The Globe on Saturdays.
Yes, people profiled have money. But the food and incidentals spending floors me, as well as what they pay for cellular and media services.

I don't argue that food is getting more expensive. We eat less red meat these days . Ground beef only when on sale. Roast beef about maybe 4 times year, when on sale. More on sale chicken and pork. More rice less potatoes. Bone up when basics go on sale in the flyer. Do not buy boxed and prepared meals. Cook our own meals. Restaurants only on a family birthday if it is just us eating.

Will dine out when socializing.
Do host dinner parties regularly ( pre covid). It is way cheaper way to get the friends together than everyone at a restaurant where the alcohol bill will kill ya. .

I do a route usually Sunday mornings dumpster shopping. One holds day old buns from a deli place, one for the Saturday papers: sun, star, globe, spec and NYT one usually at least 30 empty beer cans, One sometimes has discards from a Shoppers.

The SDM was a gold mine two weeks a go. Looked like a skid of frozen goods got bumped and an ice cream container oozed its syrup over everything. I fished these items out, and wiped them with a dish rag when It got home. It has been below -5, all the time the stuff was in dumpster before I snagged it ( likerally, like with a gardening hoe)
So no worry about spoilage, and stuff is all in date.
6 frozen pizzas, 5 boxed chicken and fish items, lasagna, kd. ( who buys pre-made frozen kd - it is beyond me!) Plus about 9 Bryers ice cream containers.
So for past two weeks and week to come it has only been tomatoes, yogurt, green pepper, and the like on the grocery store trips.
So many of those in the Financial Facelift in the Globe on Saturdays have huge indexed government DB pensions that it drives people crazy.
 

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Has anyone in this thread making all these wild claims actually known anyone with food insecurity and what that actually looks like?

I would ask if any of you have experienced food insecurity but I’m going to assume no, again based on the replies.

Do any of you know single mothers with 2/3 kids and one income? Do you know seniors with no pension? Do you know people with disabilities who truly can’t work?
Terb is not the place to go to find empathy for the disadvantaged in society.
 

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Has anyone in this thread making all these wild claims actually known anyone with food insecurity and what that actually looks like?

I would ask if any of you have experienced food insecurity but I’m going to assume no, again based on the replies.

Do any of you know single mothers with 2/3 kids and one income? Do you know seniors with no pension? Do you know people with disabilities who truly can’t work?
I would agree with you, the majority of the men on terb are wealthy and have never used a foodbank or know anyone that does, most wealthy men on terb think of three types of people you are talking about as parasites, that single mothers should not have kids unless they can afford them, that seniors without a pension should be working until they die and the disabled should be all in ltcs.
 
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Wife volunteers at the food bank.
I donate $ at work in fall with company matching funds. Whole office gets behind this to send about $20-30K a year to the regional women's shelter.
That goes towards getting women and very often their kids a fresh start when often they have fleed a relationship with almost nothing in hand.

Have distributed Fresh Air Fund Santa gift boxes at Christmas for about a decade when kids were Scout age. Saw some very dire straights in dumpy apartment buildings and basement apartments delivering those boxes over the years.
 
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