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omegaphallic

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Fuji is being ignorant on purpose, the NDP did not use tax payers money for this. The NDP payed for the office space, and the parliamentary staff was staff they already had, or were entitled to, and in fact they still have that staff and no one has a problem with that because all parties get to have staff. So no expense to the tax payer. Don't believe me ask Chantal Herbert and others.
 

Lovehobby

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Fuji is being ignorant on purpose, the NDP did not use tax payers money for this. The NDP payed for the office space, and the parliamentary staff was staff they already had, or were entitled to, and in fact they still have that staff and no one has a problem with that because all parties get to have staff. So no expense to the tax payer. Don't believe me ask Chantal Herbert and others.
Even when he knows he is wrong he cant admit it. Wired like that I guess.
 

Lovehobby

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Fuji knows the NDP staff are doing in Montreal EXACTLY what the Lib and Con staff do in Ottawa. The NDP informed parliament exactly what they were doing.

Fuji finds it so difficult to find any corruption in NDP as opposed to the other 2 totally corrupt parties he basically has to made shit up.

The press has abandoned the story because thrre is nothing to it and they know it.

Fuji cares. Nobody else cares.
 

blackrock13

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Fuji knows the NDP staff are doing in Montreal EXACTLY what the Lib and Con staff do in Ottawa. The NDP informed parliament exactly what they were doing.

Fuji finds it so difficult to find any corruption in NDP as opposed to the other 2 totally corrupt parties he basically has to made shit up.

The press has abandoned the story because thrre is nothing to it and they know it.

Fuji cares. Nobody else cares.
Breath damn it, it will help. A lot of people care, especially in the LPOC and the CPOC.

Still haven't answered the question of which party the supporters for the LPOC and CPOC would choose second.
 

groggy

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Breath damn it, it will help. A lot of people care, especially in the LPOC and the CPOC.
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Oh come on. Nobody there cares what fuji thinks.
This is purely a fuji fake outrage story.
Everywhere else its dead, nothing happened.

If you want real scandals we should talk Cadman, Duffy, robocalls, adscam 2013 and a host of other ones that actually matter, where actual laws were broken.
 

Lovehobby

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LAST Abacus poll for Ontario are instructive

Core PC vote = 16%
Core OLP vote = 10%
Core NDPvote =10%
NDP/OLP switchers = 21%
OLP/PC switchers = 10%
NDP/PC switchers =13%
Switch all 3 = 13%

http://www.threehundredeight.com/?m=1



In Manitoba over a long period Liberal vote declined. 2/3 went NDP 1/3 went PC.
 

blackrock13

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LAST Abacus poll for Ontario are instructive

Core PC vote = 16%
Core OLP vote = 10%
Core NDPvote =10%
NDP/OLP switchers = 21%
OLP/PC switchers = 10%
NDP/PC switchers =13%
Switch all 3 = 13%

http://www.threehundredeight.com/?m=1



In Manitoba over a long period Liberal vote declined. 2/3 went NDP 1/3 went PC.
More precisely from your link;

The last Abacus poll suggested that there are more voters accessible to the NDP and Liberals, that they have a smaller core (10% each to 16% for the PCs) but a larger group of swing voters (46% for the NDP, 44% for the Liberals, against 35% for the PCs). This may be what we are seeing. From one poll to the next there is less variation in PC support because their support is more settled, but there are more swing voters going back and forth between the Liberals and NDP, causing their numbers to wobble back and forth more dramatically.

So 46% and 44% of the NDP and Liberal supporters is soft, wow. then 13% don't know what they're going to have for their next meal, let alone who they support.

More fun with figures factoids. The NDP is still solidly in third at 25%.

Then again the same 308 article posts this;

The projection now gives the Liberals the lead in the vote projection, the first outright lead they have enjoyed since the campaign began. They stand at 38.7%, or between 37% and 43%. The PCs have fallen to 34.6%, or between 33% and 38%, while the New Democrats sit at 21.1%, or between 19% and 23%.
The NDP is going in the wrong direction, marvellous.
 

blackrock13

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Then again from same;

In the second release from Abacus's poll this week, similar numbers were shown in terms of favourability - or at least relative numbers, since Abacus provides the option of people having a 'neutral' opinion. But 29% said they had a favourable opinion of Horwath, with 28% having a favourable opinion of Wynne and just 22% saying the same for Hudak. Negative views topped out at 42% for Hudak, against 37% for Wynne and just 21% for Horwath (she had the highest 'neutral' score).


On who would make the best premier, Abacus gave Wynne 26% to 20% for Hudak and 18% for Horwath. Among likely voters, however, Wynne's score improved to 31%, against 24% for Hudak and 20% for Horwath. Those numbers were very similar to Forum's estimate of 34% for Wynne, 22% for Hudak, and 17% for Horwath.
 

Lovehobby

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I would not worry about it. Will end up at 25% as Green vote always collapses on voting day. NDP gets bigger share. Power of incumbency. A Lkberal minority that must kow tow to NDP close to perfect.
 

fuji

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I would not worry about it. Will end up at 25% as Green vote always collapses on voting day. NDP gets bigger share. Power of incumbency. A Lkberal minority that must kow tow to NDP close to perfect.
More likely a PC government that must kow tow to Wynne. If they can keep Hudak out of the press, PC support will naturally climb.
 

Lovehobby

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Lovehobby

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I guess she didn't heed your lunchtime advise then, cough.
Why the cough? I was a paid lobbyist for a large organization that gave the NDP over $100 000 every year.
 

Lovehobby

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The whole NDP is outside the Overton window and by a lot more then the PCs. A look at the polls will tell you that.
The difference is the NDP is well aware of where they sit and why. The Tories confuse their positions with majority thinking.
 
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