NBA Playoff Thread

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DonQuixote said:
Then my question, do they have the young legs
to stay up with LeBron, et al. or will they be
running out of steam? That may be the only
way the Cavs win.
I don't believe they have young legs but they have Garnett, Pierce and Allen. Unless they run out of steam, they will not lose.

You can't get much better than three future Hall of Fame candidates.

LeBron is great but he can't do it by himself. No one can.

No one in the history of the NBA has won the title "by themselves".
 

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I think that the Celtics are better because of their top 3 players. Detroit could take them out though because their bench is vastly superior in my opinion.

I think all 3 of them need to be in the lineup to succeed.
 

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What the Celtics have

...that the Pistons don't, is more between the ears...the Pistons get so caught up in the promotion of how great they are...that they think they can play when they want to. I'm hoping they have matured enough after the Philly scare to come out every night with the fire to win. It still boggles my mind that this group has only one title. If they had the work ethic of other good teams..like the Spurs..they'd have at least 2 more by now...Hopefully the core ..Billups, Wallace and Hamilton...realize the window is closing on them, and this may be one of their last shots at the title..


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The Spurs better get their game together. They are being outplayed by the Hornets.

The Pistons barely held on last night.

I believe it will be more interesting with the change of venues for the next game.
 

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enaud11 said:
This is a Boston vs Los Angeles finals. The NBA needs this matchup. You guys need to read www.accuscore.com blog/0cean99 he knows what he's talking about
The league would love a Celtics vs Lakers finals. This match-up would have the highest ratings, best entertainment value.
 

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lawyerman said:
The Spurs better get their game together. They are being outplayed by the Hornets.

The Pistons barely held on last night.

I believe it will be more interesting with the change of venues for the next game.
The Hornets are for real. Paul lives up to the hype. Good situation for Mo Pete.
 

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Boston still wins with Pierce scoring 4 points and Allen has 0 points to his name. It just goes to show that the other Celtics really pulled it together.
I'm sure that those two will not have a game like that again.

LeBron goes 2-18? That will definitely change as well. I still like the Celtics.
 

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Whats should worry Celtics fans is that Pierce and Allen played that bad on home court ... Cause in this years playoffs they have yet to win on the road...

This series might come down to Garnett putting this team on his back and
pulling a Lebron James ...
I am not worried about Pierce and Allen not getting the job done. Everyone has a bad game. I think everyone knows that KG is the best of the top three.
Like I said in a previous thread, KG has never had anyone to play with in Minnesota (including head case Sprewell who was at the end of his career).
There might be an argument when KG, Cassell and Sprewell went to the conference finals in 2004 only to lose to the Lakers. That is the only year where KG and the Wolves could have went to the Finals but the Lakers were much too strong during that time.
 

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guyroch said:
Oh my God !!!! What a fucked up call

... You thought Raptor Fans were pissed after Fords Layup ... Magic got robbed ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG8a852XVlc
It's funny how that happened when Detroit was down and on their home court. :rolleyes: Morally, this was a huge letdown for the Magic. It is difficult to pick yourself up after that but as a professional, you have to try and not let that bother you.
 

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Magic were on fire last night. This series is far from over if Billups is out of the lineup. Billups runs that team and they need him back.

I believe that if they do not get him back for this series, the Pistons will be eliminated. Yes, he is that good.

I hope he does come back because I want to see two teams that are healthy and competing.

Even though the Lakers were kicking the Jazz around in the first quarter, the Jazz held their own for the remainder of the game.

I believe the Jazz are just plain outmatched. Don't get me wrong Utah has a very good team but the Lakers have Kobe. He is the difference.

The Celtics/Cavs and Hornets/Spurs games are the ones I am more interested in. I think it's because the Celtics had such a successful year and anything less than a championship would be a disappointment. The Cavs have the best all-around player in LeBron James and he is exciting to watch.

The Spurs are the defending champs and they are going against the upstart Hornets. I do like the Spurs (especially Duncan) but I would like to see the Hornets win the series. I am surprised that the Hornets are beating the Spurs so badly. I had a feeling that they would do well but not this well. I don't think anyone thought they would be up 2-0 on the Spurs and beat them by almost 20 points in each game.
 

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Who said the Lakers are a championship team? I certainly didn't. They are a strong contender. All I said was that the Jazz was overmatched when it comes to offence. I believe the Jazz had the best record at home during the season but Houston beat them at home once and came close a second time. The Lakers are better than the Rockets in my opinion.
 

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It the old adage that defence wins. All I know is that if you don't score, you don't win. Teams need to have complete game in order to succeed that is why I don't think the Lakers will win it all. They would need to put a lot of points on the board to balance there shortcomings on defence. I love run and gun basketball as well but I also love a great block, a quick steal, etc. This team can score. It would be hard to duplicate past Lakers teams (Kareem, Magic, Worthy, etc.) were indeed a special team. It's truly a great game which does not get enough recognition in this part of the world.
 

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I echo your sentiments guyroch. I don't think we will see as much of a struggle in terms of offense in the Celtics/Cavs game tonight. For LBJ to have only 12 points (8 for FT's, 2-18 shooting), Pierce 4 points and Ray Allen 0 points!!! Great defence and horrible shooting. It was the first game after all. I am sure Boston will bring a better effort out tonight.
 

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Celtics win big. What a surprise...LOL. I don't know how Cleveland can come back from this deficit. The Boston defence is the best I have seen in a very long time.

I still can't see anyone beating Boston for the time being.

The Spurs held on. They are back in this series. The Hornets turn it up in the first two games in the second half but fall in the second half of game three. This is the most interesting series of the playoffs so far.
 
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The Jazz seems dejected and weary of playing the talented Lakers. Kobe is truly an unbelieveable player. He is finally trusting his teammates more (now that there is some talent) and that has helped him become a better player.
He really seems more driven then ever before. He is truly a very special player.

I feel sorry for LeBron because he is trying to do too much and that is hurting him and the team. Too many turnovers and missed shots. The whole team (except Ilgauskas) is not playing well at all.
 

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I am really surprised the Jazz came away with a victory last night. They barely held on but in the end, they played well. Boozer finally showed up and had a monster game.

I think that the old Kobe showed up near the end of the game and shouting at his teammates. He needs to save that for the dressing room. I still think the Lakers will take the series in 5.

The Pistons/Magic could be interesting and it all depends if Billups will play or not. If Billups is out for the series, I don't believe the Pistons can beat the Magic. If he is playing, Detroit should take them out. He is the heart and soul of that team. To think that the Raptors once had Billups.

The Cavs have to smarten up. I think Boston will devastate them again.
 
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Was I ever wrong. The Cavs have actually made this series interesting.
I have no idea why the Celtics are so bad on the road. I believe anything less than a championship will be deemed a failure and Doc Rivers should be fired. How could a team look so good at home and so dismal on the road?
This is a real mystery.

Like I said before, home court is very important in the NBA a championship calibre team should win at least one game on the road.

How could Rondo not have any assists? He played half of the game and 0 assists. You don't even have to watch the game to see that he was being very selfish or trying to do too much. I am sure he will pick it up in the next game and utilize his teammates more.

To say that Joe Smith is for real is laughable. This guy has all the tools and for a number one overall pick but he has definitely underachieved for most of his career.

I enjoy both upsets and heavy favourites winning. The Celtics could have a dynasty if they player their cards right and I hope they do win it all mainly because of KG.

It would be nice to see Cleveland win as well as LeBron is the best all-around player in the NBA. He is a joy to watch but he seems to do too much at times. I just don't think that Cleveland has a championship winning team.

I have no idea why the Magic are screwing around with the Pistons. They woke up Richard Hamilton (who did not really need much waking up as he was getting upset) and he has a monster game. This is a team no one wants to mess with. They even won without Billups in the lineup! Detroit is such a good veteran team.

Howard could not do very much at all. 8 points for a player of his calibre is unacceptable. That was the difference maker. Orlando should have won this game. Period.

I am looking forward to seep if the games being played today will be at an even 2-2 or will th leading teams be up 3-1. Two great games today.
 

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I believe anything less than a championship will be deemed a failure and Doc Rivers should be fired. How could a team look so good at home and so dismal on the road?
Doc got totally out-coached yesterday. They continued with the strong side defence on Lebron (it worked, check is stats) but just got beat when they started swinging it from one side of the floor to the other, because the other guys started hitting their shots (Delonte, Wally, Smith, Boobie) which they didn't back in Boston. Doc didn't have an answer for this and couldn't get the team to the right spacing adjustment. Stupid if you ask me. Did he think that the Cavs weren't going to adjust to what he's been throwing at them for two games straight? Gotta see what he comes up with on Monday.

As for being so dismal on the road...the C's actually played well for the last 3 quarters to compete. They just dug themselves such a large hole in the first (32-13) that they couldn't muster a comeback. The Cavs came out in the first 12 wanting it a lot more than the Celtics. And this something that playoff experience teaches teams. Credit to the Cavs. Gutcheck for the C's.
 

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Was I ever wrong. The Cavs have actually made this series interesting.
Isn't funny how people get up and down after each game in the playoffs. I'm not sure how this series is "interesting" now. The Cavs held serve and won at home. The Celts are still up 2-1 and if they win Game #4, it's as good as over. This series is going seven and the Celts will prevail because of home court.

A series doesn't become interesting untill a team wins on the road.

Orlando continues to show how inexperienced they are. I don't buy into the idea of waking up Rip since with CB-Smooth being out, Hamilton knew he had to be aggressive on O. Plus having the half pint on him, you pretty knew Rip would post the midget. What is amazing about the Magic is the continued bad shot selection in the 4th. Hedo made a couple of 3's but there some early in shot clock looks that weren't great that he took. Furthermore, the last drive was a bit odd and he probably should have started his move quicker to allow for more time in the case of the miss. I do think McDyess took a charge on that too.

When I watch Orlando I have to wonder, isn't this the type of team Coangelo wants to have?

I'd also like to note that Dwight Howard is incredibly overrated at this point in his career. I think people get too excited about the dunk contest and try to extrapolate on that. There's no doubt about his raw ability and how good he could be but I'd say Bosh is a better all around guy at this point. Howard just looks awkward when he's on the post and in the half court very much like Shaq in his early years.

Wow that broadcast team for the DET/ORL game was tough to listen to. Way to research solely from the media guides.
 
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