N.S. police warn active shooter may be driving what looks like RCMP vehicle....

boomboom

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I wonder how many lives would have been saved if they posted it on Amber Alerts
were mistakes made... yes. are the RCMP perfect...no
no body is perfect
but no one has mentioned that the RCMP used their twitter feed to send stuff out, the media follows that, why did they not broadcast & retweet or call for more info.
be careful when you point the finger, you have 3 more pointing back at you
 

Jasmine Raine

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Here is an article about the path he took.

Some people where very lucky in this while others were tragically taken.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/rcmp-detail-killer-s-path-through-nova-scotia-1.4910079

How a killer travelled through central Nova Scotia, claiming the lives of 22 victims and leaving 16 crime scenes in his wake, is now becoming much clearer.

But significant evidence has been lost because Gabriel Wortman set fire to his home and garage in Portapique, N.S. and it burned to the ground, police said at a news conference Friday morning.

RCMP have confirmed that before the mass killing began, Wortman restrained and beat a woman he was in a relationship with at his home in Portapique, N.S. before she escaped him and hid for hours in the woods.

That assault “could have been the catalyst” that began his rampage, Supt. Darren Campbell said at a news conference Friday, but police are not ruling out that significant pre-planning was involved.

The woman, who is recovered and is co-operating with police, confirmed to investigators that Wortman was driving a replica RCMP vehicle and was wearing a police uniform.

Investigators are tracking how Wortman managed to secure police equipment, including decals for a cruiser, a lightbar for the roof, uniforms and other equipment. But Campbell said they do not believe that the killer had access to police radio equipment.

Neighbours told police that Wortman had significant weapons on his property. Those used in the rampage appear to have been obtained in the United States, says Campbell. But it’s not clear how those weapons were brought into Canada.

It appears Wortman had three vehicles that were made to look like police vehicles. One he used in his attack and two others were destroyed in the fire on his property.

Other new details revealed Friday morning:

Police believe Wortman escaped road barriers set up in Portapique, where 13 people were discovered dead, by driving through a field. Investigators did not know a car had been witnessed escaping through a field until later, Campbell said. That allowed him to travel him about 100 km and to kill a further nine people.

Campbell says, contrary to a report in the Globe and Mail, they have not uncovered a hit list created by Wortman. He says that report, based on information from a neighbour, may stem from police contacting people they believed may have been at risk and removing them to safety. They were then interviewed by police to gather information about Wortman.

During a detailed accounting of Wortman’s deadly path, Campbell says Wortman killed two men and one woman in a home on Hunter Road in Glenhome and then set the residence on fire. Police say he knew at least two of the victims there.

He then travelled to a home on Highway 4 in Glenhome. He knocked on the door but the residents, who knew Wortman, did not answer. They called 911 and reported his identity, and told dispatchers he was armed and driving what looked like a police car. Wortman left that home.

RCMP also revealed that two RCMP officers had arranged to meet each other. The first officer was shot and injured but managed to get away. The second officer’s vehicle collided with that of the gunman. She was fatally shot and her weapon was taken by the gunman, who then torched both vehicles.

A passerby who stopped was fatally shot and the gunman took that victim's vehicle, a silver SUV and carried on.

The gunman, who by now was driving a red Mazda 3 stolen from a woman he had killed in her home, stopped at a gas station in Enfield, N.S. A tactical officer, who had stopped to refuel, killed the gunman there.
 

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tent&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Gunman started Canada's worst mass shooting after his girlfriend fled
Moira Warburton, Steve Scherer

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TORONTO/OTTAWA (Reuters) - The gunman in Canada’s worst ever mass shooting began the weekend rampage that ultimately killed 22 people after his girlfriend escaped him when he assaulted her, a top police official said on Friday.

Police did not give details about the nature of the assault or how she escaped and fled into the woods. Local media said she had been tied up. The woman’s name was not provided. She is currently recovering from her injuries and cooperating with police.

“It was a significant assault, and this individual female did manage to escape, and that could very well have been the catalyst to start the chain of events,” Nova Scotia Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Superintendent Darren Campbell said in a news conference.

“However, we’re open to all possibilities and we’re not excluding the possibility that there was any premeditated planning also involved,” Campbell said in a news conference.

After the woman fled on Saturday night, she spent the night in hiding in the thick woods that surround the rural hamlet of Portapique, Nova Scotia, and only emerged on Sunday morning to call the 911 emergency number at about 6:30 a.m.

By then the gunman, 51-year-old Gabriel Wortman, had killed 13 people in Portapique. Disguised in a police uniform and driving a fake police car, Wortman went on to kill nine more people on Sunday morning.

The Friday news conference provided the first detailed account of a shooting spree that lasted at least 13 hours. RCMP officers shot Wortman dead at a gas station about 90 km (60 miles) from Portapique, but not before Wortman wounded one RCMP officer and killed another.

On Sunday, he also randomly killed one woman who was out for a Sunday morning walk, and he used the fake police cruiser to pull over and shoot and kill at least one person. He also stopped at the home of a woman he knew, murdered her, and took her car.

“I’ve been a police officer for almost 30 years now and I can’t imagine any more horrific a set of circumstances, when you’re trying to search for someone that looks like you,” Campbell said, referring to Wortman’s impersonation of an RCMP officer.

Police faced criticism this week for using social media and not a provincial emergency alert system to notify the public that a gunman was at large, and for only sending out a tweet on Saturday night that warned of a “firearms complaint”.

Some of the families of the victims said better communication might have saved the lives of their loved ones.

Police believed the suspect had been “contained” within police perimeters on Saturday night, Campbell said. But he said the families “have every right to be angry. ... We are always looking to do better.”

On Friday evening after the earlier news conference, an alert was sent to all the cellphones in the province saying that police were responding to reports of shots fired in two different parts of a suburb of Halifax and advising people to stay inside their homes. It turned out to be a false alarm.

“All clear. ... No evidence of shots fired. Police continue to patrol the area,” the RCMP tweeted.
 

black booty lover

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were mistakes made... yes. are the RCMP perfect...no
no body is perfect
but no one has mentioned that the RCMP used their twitter feed to send stuff out, the media follows that, why did they not broadcast & retweet or call for more info.
be careful when you point the finger, you have 3 more pointing back at you

Sadly we live in an era where all people want to do is point fingers and lay blame.
 

wazup

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1yr ago today has effected so many lives. Thoughts & prayers to all those effected.
A tragic day in Canadian history for sure. Lots of tough questions still to be answered. I hope mistakes from this can be learned from to help others in the future.
The old thoughts and prayers when nobody does any of that. They weren't trained properly for that kind of event. Most cops in Canada probably don't ever draw their weapon in their careers and have no idea how to react in a live situation.

It would probably be the same outcome if it happened tomorrow.
 

Jiffy Pop

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Wazup I agree with your opinions on this situation. I have noticed that people always play armchair quarterback in these situations on what should be done. Problem is until a real live situation happens you really do not know who can handle it.
 

boomboom

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I will partially agree with the above comments, much different policing in small rural Canada vs the big city when it comes to resources, staffing levels & certain training. I live in a rural setting & know the number of officers working at any given time could not handle that type of call when it 1st comes in. I had a friend stationed in northern Ontario & years ago on a major call, OPP had to fly back up & extra help in for it.
I hope the Inquiry will shed some light on needed changes. Not just out there, but across the country.
 

Jiffy Pop

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boomboom it is not just training. Until you have experienced it first hand you are not 100% sure who can handle it.
 

boomboom

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boomboom it is not just training. Until you have experienced it first hand you are not 100% sure who can handle it.
yes, I understand that totally & not trying to be an armchair here & point fingers. If you look back at my other threads on this, I think they convey that or at least hope they do. But I know training is a key point, you cannot train every officer for that type of a call, but I'm not just referring to the 1st few responding officers. The incident Commander was over their head as well from what I've read on this, failing to share information with other police agencies in the area as it happened or asking for help or support from Halifax or Truro. Poor sharing of information beforehand too. there was a good podcast from Global news in 13 parts on this (13 hours Inside the NS shooting). Now not all their info I believe & is slanted at times, but it was a decent pod cast.
 

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Wazup I agree with your opinions on this situation. I have noticed that people always play armchair quarterback in these situations on what should be done. Problem is until a real live situation happens you really do not know who can handle it.
Perfect solution! Don't worry, be happy:giggle:...
 
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