My thoughts on Trump

Skoob

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No, they are a legit news organization that calls it like it is and will retract a story when they are in the wrong. . You should try getting out of your bubble and not listen to Trump who attacks CNN and other REAL news networks because he doesn't like being called out.
Who said they weren't a legit news organization?
I said they were biased. One only has to watch it for a couple of hours to observe the constant Trump battery by their hosts and panels. Are you seriously denying that?
 
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Valcazar

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I find myself in a quibbling match with the master quibbler.

I stand by my initial words below which in my opinion are factual. If you and others want to add on information or whatever, that's fine. I personally have a hard time superimposing what the jury was thinking in this situation beyond the decision.

After the incident occurred somewhere around twenty-seven years prior, "Nine jurors found him liable of sexual abuse. The jury only needed to find a preponderance of liability. As is commonly required in U.S. and Canada criminal law, the jury did not find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on any matter." As is customary in civil suits, the plaintiff was awarded money.
So let me get this straight.
You stand by the words you said except the one part I objected to?
Fine.

I didn't object to the bit about civil being different from criminal, I objected to the false implication about it not being sexual assault, which you have removed in your rephrase.

All good.
 
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WyattEarp

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So let me get this straight.
You stand by the words you said except the one part I objected to?
Fine.

I didn't object to the bit about civil being different from criminal, I objected to the false implication about it not being sexual assault, which you have removed in your rephrase.

All good.
It was defined legally as sexual abuse. I can go back and add to my post if you're concerned about it. You might have also noticed that I added the part about twenty-seven years because again it was fact relating to the case.

You're flying by the main point that the legal language is important.

I do want to say anyone here who says Trump is a rapist is perfectly entitled to their opinion. When they start using inaccurate legal language to make their point, it becomes a point of contention.

PS- Why can't we just say the Carroll trial was a "job interview"? ;)
 
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squeezer

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Who said they weren't a legit news organization?
I said they were biased. One only has to watch it for a couple of hours to observe the constant Trump battery by their hosts and panels. Are you seriously denying that?
Are you seriously denying that Trump is a liar who lies constantly and needs to be fact-checked? DO you deny that he said the media should act as a bullet screen on his behalf and do you acknowledge it was lying trump that began calling MSM fake news because they fact checked him and deservingly so.
 
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Valcazar

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It was defined legally as sexual abuse. I can go back and add to my post if you're concerned about it.
You claiming it was abuse and NOT assault was the entirety of what I objected to.

You have fixed that in your update by not trying to say it wasn't assault any more.

That's fine with me.

You're flying by the main point that the legal language is important.
On the contrary.
I was the one who was insisting language was important.
You have corrected your language.
It's all good.

I do want to say anyone here who says Trump is a rapist is perfectly entitled to their opinion. When they start using inaccurate legal language to make their point, it becomes a point of contention.
Which was exactly my point.
You were using inaccurate legal language, and trying to imply something with it.
You've stopped.
I'm good.

PS- Why can't we just say the Carroll trial was a "job interview"? ;)
Because it wasn't.
Why undermine your point about legal language like that for a weak joke that isn't even relevant?
 
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Skoob

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Are you seriously denying that Trump is a liar who lies constantly and needs to be fact-checked? DO you deny that he said the media should act as a bullet screen on his behalf and do you acknowledge it was lying trump that began calling MSM fake news because they fact checked him and deservingly so.
The moment a news organization becomes an opinion source, they are no longer a news organization.
btw last time I showed you a fact-checked article about his accomplishments you threw it away.
I guess facts only count when they jive with your narrative?
 
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WyattEarp

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Because it wasn't.
Why undermine your point about legal language like that for a weak joke that isn't even relevant?
The why can't we just call it a "job interview" comment is sarcasm. Anyone with a semblance of recall can see the similarities between Jean Carroll and Christine Blasey Ford.
 
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squeezer

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The moment a news organization becomes an opinion source, they are no longer a news organization.
btw last time I showed you a fact-checked article about his accomplishments you threw it away.
I guess facts only count when they jive with your narrative?
If I remember correctly, he didn't accomplish much, and I don't remember you producing a link.

He did play a part in Warp Speed for the vaccine which the media did give me credit for but he can't claim that as a victory because of his dumb anti-vax base.

He made a tax cut to help himself, his family and rich buds,

He never built the wall

He raised the deficit

He caused the death of many of his voters with hiding how serious COVID was, and lost him the election, to be honest

I can go on and on without even looking for a link
 
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Skoob

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If I remember correctly, he didn't accomplish much, and I don't remember you producing a link.

He did play a part in Warp Speed for the vaccine which the media did give me credit for but he can't claim that as a victory because of his dumb anti-vax base.

He made a tax cut to help himself, his family and rich buds,

He never built the wall

He raised the deficit

He caused the death of many of his voters with hiding how serious COVID was, and lost him the election, to be honest

I can go on and on without even looking for a link
He didn't cause the death of anyone. Why would someone who played a huge part in Warp Speed also be claiming it wasn't serious?

If you want to refuse to review his accomplishments that's fine...just don't try and highlight his alleged failures instead.

btw here's some unbiased truth about the US economy under Trump and Biden:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereks...nd-trump-from-jobs-to-inflation-final-update/
 
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Ghawar
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He made a tax cut to help himself, his family and rich buds,

He never built the wall

He raised the deficit

He caused the death of many of his voters with hiding how serious COVID was, and lost him the election, to be honest
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Notwithstanding Trump's dismal performance in his
1st and perhaps his only term you can still count on him
to do better than Biden/Harris on

a) Climate change




b) Israel


Well, with Israel both Republicans and Democrats are its willing lackeys.
But Trump will be a better poodle than Harris in the eyes of their master.
 

Valcazar

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The why can't we just call it a "job interview" comment is sarcasm. Anyone with a semblance of recall can see the similarities between Jean Carroll and Christine Blasey Ford.
A trial is not a senate confirmation hearing or remotely like it in any way.
 

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Kamala's campaign tried to make her an empty vessel of policy that voters can fill with whatever they so desire. Per Axios, Kamala deployed a "No Comment" strategy to avoid answering where she stood on her progressive record. The fact that we still lack answers on key policy issues is an indictment of the press for failing to get those answers!
 
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