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We also discussed Autophagy which occrrs after 20 hours of fasting :



Autophagy allows your body to break down and reuse old cell parts so your cells can operate more efficiently.
It’s a natural cleaning out process that begins when your cells are stressed or deprived of nutrients.
Researchers are studying autophagy’s role in potentially preventing and fighting disease.
  • Recycles damaged cell parts into fully functioning cell parts.
  • Gets rid of nonfunctional cell parts that take up space and slow performance.
  • Destroys pathogens in a cell that can damage it, like viruses and bacteria.
Autophagy: Definition, Process, Fasting & Signs (clevelandclinic.org)
 

Zoot Allures

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I am the pre diabetic stage

If I clear my body of carbs , which is what this diet does, I should be clear of any risk of diabeties

Stage one is 20 gm of carbs a day

Normally stage one is over in a month. In this stage I may go longer, not to lose weight but the diabetic thing

Also, I am low on vitamin D so I will take supplimens. They are free with prescription
 

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I am the pre diabetic stage

If I clear my body of carbs , which is what this diet does, I should be clear of any risk of diabeties

Stage one is 20 gm of carbs a day

Normally stage one is over in a month. In this stage I may go longer, not to lose weight but the diabetic thing

Also, I am low on vitamin D so I will take supplimens. They are free with prescription
That statement or should I say your belief is so very, very wrong. I won't even get into all the reasons why. :rolleyes:

LTO_3
 
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It's called a lifetime of experience. Besides you'll eventually be eating carbs again so what your doctor said is BS. But if he's saying by losing weight will lessen the chances of becoming a type 2 diabetic, that is true. Besides there is no relevance between carbs you eat and getting diabetes unless you're packing on the pounds. Just google causes of diabetes to get a basic understanding of diabetes. IMO, that you're asking that question shows me you're following your doctor's words blindly. I'm done with this. Best of luck to you.

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It's called a lifetime of experience. Besides you'll eventually be eating carbs again so what your doctor said is BS. But if he's saying by losing weight will lessen the chances of becoming a type 2 diabetic, that is true. Besides there is no relevance between carbs you eat and getting diabetes unless you're packing on the pounds. Just google causes of diabetes to get a basic understanding of diabetes. IMO, that you're asking that question shows me you're following your doctor's words blindly. I'm done with this. Best of luck to you.

LTO_3

While I do not desire a pissing match, one persons experience cannot be called science for many reasons.


For those interested, other than LTO-3 who is done with topic, I respond thusly, with references :

If you have prediabetes, managing your carbohydrate intake is crucial. Here are some tips to help you maintain
balanced blood sugar levels:
  1. Eat More Fiber-Rich Foods: Incorporate foods high in fiber, such as beans, legumes, fruits with edible skin,
  2. whole grains (like quinoa and barley), whole grain breads, cereals, and whole wheat pasta.
  3. Fiber helps you feel full longer and stabilizes blood sugar levels1.
  4. Watch Your Carb Intake: Aim to keep your carbohydrate consumption below 25% of your daily calories.
  5. This approach has been shown to lower blood sugar levels and reduce the risk of disease in people with prediabetes2.
  6. Choose Healthy Carbohydrates: Opt for whole grains like brown rice, farro, or quinoa.
  7. These have a lower glycemic index (GI) and are less likely to cause blood sugar spikes3.
Remember that lifestyle changes, including diet modifications, can significantly impact your risk of developing type 2 diabetes.
Consult with a healthcare professional for personalized advice based on your specific needs. 😊
Learn more
1 healthline.com
2 diabetesmealplans.com
3 hopkinsmedicine.org4healthline.com

Yes, you will eat more carbs after you have cleared your body of them,
this is phase one about four weeks, but your eating change is permanent as you
will need to keep carb intake down after diet
 

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While I do not desire a pissing match, one persons experience cannot be called science for many reasons.


For those interested, other than LTO-3 who is done with topic, I respond thusly, with references :

If you have prediabetes, managing your carbohydrate intake is crucial. Here are some tips to help you maintain
balanced blood sugar levels:
  1. Eat More Fiber-Rich Foods: Incorporate foods high in fiber, such as beans, legumes, fruits with edible skin,
  2. whole grains (like quinoa and barley), whole grain breads, cereals, and whole wheat pasta.
  3. Fiber helps you feel full longer and stabilizes blood sugar levels1.
  4. Watch Your Carb Intake: Aim to keep your carbohydrate consumption below 25% of your daily calories.
  5. This approach has been shown to lower blood sugar levels and reduce the risk of disease in people with prediabetes2.
  6. Choose Healthy Carbohydrates: Opt for whole grains like brown rice, farro, or quinoa.
  7. These have a lower glycemic index (GI) and are less likely to cause blood sugar spikes3.
Remember that lifestyle changes, including diet modifications, can significantly impact your risk of developing type 2 diabetes.
Consult with a healthcare professional for personalized advice based on your specific needs. 😊
Learn more
1 healthline.com
2 diabetesmealplans.com
3 hopkinsmedicine.org4healthline.com

Yes, you will eat more carbs after you have cleared your body of them,
this is phase one about four weeks, but your eating change is permanent as you
will need to keep carb intake down after diet
If you are prediabetic, there are 2 primary things to do:

a) Workout - both cardio and weights. Especially weights.
b) Lose weight.

These 2 are the most important to do if you are looking to bring your A1C down. Diet alone wont cut it.
 
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LTO_3

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While I do not desire a pissing match, one persons experience cannot be called science for many reasons.


For those interested, other than LTO-3 who is done with topic, I respond thusly, with references :

If you have prediabetes, managing your carbohydrate intake is crucial. Here are some tips to help you maintain
balanced blood sugar levels:
  1. Eat More Fiber-Rich Foods: Incorporate foods high in fiber, such as beans, legumes, fruits with edible skin,
  2. whole grains (like quinoa and barley), whole grain breads, cereals, and whole wheat pasta.
  3. Fiber helps you feel full longer and stabilizes blood sugar levels1.
  4. Watch Your Carb Intake: Aim to keep your carbohydrate consumption below 25% of your daily calories.
  5. This approach has been shown to lower blood sugar levels and reduce the risk of disease in people with prediabetes2.
  6. Choose Healthy Carbohydrates: Opt for whole grains like brown rice, farro, or quinoa.
  7. These have a lower glycemic index (GI) and are less likely to cause blood sugar spikes3.
Remember that lifestyle changes, including diet modifications, can significantly impact your risk of developing type 2 diabetes.
Consult with a healthcare professional for personalized advice based on your specific needs. 😊
Learn more
1 healthline.com
2 diabetesmealplans.com
3 hopkinsmedicine.org4healthline.com

Yes, you will eat more carbs after you have cleared your body of them,
this is phase one about four weeks, but your eating change is permanent as you
will need to keep carb intake down after diet
What you've listed here is typical of any quality diet referred by many dietitians and medical personnel to lose weight and/or improve their quality of eating to lose weight minimize chances of type2 diabetes and other health issues.
Been doing all of this for most of my life under medical supervision. Add following this has nothing to do with being on a keto diet either. Now I'm done with this.

LTO_3
 

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While I do not desire a pissing match, one persons experience cannot be called science for many reasons.


For those interested, other than LTO-3 who is done with topic, I respond thusly, with references :

If you have prediabetes, managing your carbohydrate intake is crucial. Here are some tips to help you maintain
balanced blood sugar levels:
  1. Eat More Fiber-Rich Foods: Incorporate foods high in fiber, such as beans, legumes, fruits with edible skin,
  2. whole grains (like quinoa and barley), whole grain breads, cereals, and whole wheat pasta.
  3. Fiber helps you feel full longer and stabilizes blood sugar levels1.
  4. Watch Your Carb Intake: Aim to keep your carbohydrate consumption below 25% of your daily calories.
  5. This approach has been shown to lower blood sugar levels and reduce the risk of disease in people with prediabetes2.
  6. Choose Healthy Carbohydrates: Opt for whole grains like brown rice, farro, or quinoa.
  7. These have a lower glycemic index (GI) and are less likely to cause blood sugar spikes3.
Remember that lifestyle changes, including diet modifications, can significantly impact your risk of developing type 2 diabetes.
Consult with a healthcare professional for personalized advice based on your specific needs. 😊
Learn more
1 healthline.com
2 diabetesmealplans.com
3 hopkinsmedicine.org4healthline.com

Yes, you will eat more carbs after you have cleared your body of them,
this is phase one about four weeks, but your eating change is permanent as you
will need to keep carb intake down after diet
Dropping the weight will help you with Diabetes unless, of course, it's genetic which in your case I am guessing is weight-related. If you stick to 2000 calories daily with high-volume low calorie healthy food choices and throw in cardio and weight training, you will healthily shed the weight. Doing it this way, you can make it a lifestyle instead of a fad diet that once you come off, the weight will find its way home. If you are over 6 ft, bump it to 2500 calories a day.
 
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Zoot Allures

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What you've listed here is typical of any quality diet referred by many dietitians and medical personnel to lose weight and/or improve their quality of
eating to lose weight minimize chances of type2 diabetes and other health issues.
Been doing all of this for most of my life under medical supervision. Add following this has nothing to do with being on a keto diet either.

Now I'm done with this.

LTO_3

For those who are not "done with this", the keto diet loses weight and purges carbs (carbs affect insulin ) from your system
both which helps prevent diabetes .

After the diet your maintain your weight loss with permanent healthy eating , as LTO_3 mentions,
that is not peculiar to Keto, they are just healthy eating habits

To be more precise, if you are into junk food and sugar , I suspect you will lose weight by eating healthy
but not quickly as in the Keto diet.






As a update, MD has given me a prescription for vitamin D based on blood test. With a prescription my insurance
covers it and it is a weekly capsule of a higher grade than over the counter vitamins, which I do not trust

I am at 214.5 lbs

I have not seen south of 215 since I can remember

Eating is a small sacrifice as there is even keto bread. spagetti, pizza etc
 
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I agree with above. I lost 20 pounds with keto and have kept it off for years.

But, I did gain 5 pounds back as eating even healthy carbs will retain water weight
but water weight is not fat
 

Zoot Allures

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There's whole synergistic combo thing going on between vitamin D, magnesium and vitamin K2.

I can only imagine the complexity of balancing omega 3, omega 6, vitamins and minerals and whatever.

My MD does it for me . I could not do it, and because I have a health issue caused by obesity, in my case high blood pressue, OHIP covers the bill

It is great to see OHIP paying for preventative medicine making it true "heath care" not "sick care"
 
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I can only imagine the complexity of balancing omega 3, omega 6, vitamins and minerals and whatever.

My MD does it for me . I could not do it, and because I have a health issue caused by obesity, in my case high blood pressue, OHIP covers the bill

It is great to see OHIP paying for preventative medicine making it true "heath care" not "sick care"

Run this by your doctor the next time you have a chance.

In my family we're running 2500I.U. of Vitamin D3 with 300MG of magnesium bisglycinate daily puls 120 MG of Vitamin K2.

The theory is that Vitamin D3 puts calcium into the blood and K2 drives it into the bones where you want it. As opposed to going into the heart.

 
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Zoot Allures

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Hey man.

You mentioned you are prediabetic. Concerns with ketoacidosis?
Never heard of it, but I am confident my MD has, that is why I am using one and while
I appreciate everyones thoughts my MDs opinion takes precedence,


Ketoacidosis is a metabolic state of acidosis mostly due to uncontrolled diabetes mellitus, where there is a deficiency of adequate insulin to use sugar or glucose as a source of energy. As a result of this, the body tends to break down fat for energy leading to the production of excess ketone bodies which causes an acidic state. It is a life-threatening condition if not treated immediately. The blood sugar levels are more than 300mg/dl. The symptoms of this condition are the presence of ketone bodies in the urine, increased frequency of passing urine, loss of consciousness, increased thirst, and dehydration.
 
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Never heard of it, but I am confident my MD has, that is why I am using one and while
I appreciate everyones thoughts my MDs opinion takes precedence,


My opinion is not formed by the last person I talked to, LOL



Ketoacidosis is a metabolic state of acidosis mostly due to uncontrolled diabetes mellitus, where there is a deficiency of adequate insulin to use sugar or glucose as a source of energy. As a result of this, the body tends to break down fat for energy leading to the production of excess ketone bodies which causes an acidic state. It is a life-threatening condition if not treated immediately. The blood sugar levels are more than 300mg/dl. The symptoms of this condition are the presence of ketone bodies in the urine, increased frequency of passing urine, loss of consciousness, increased thirst, and dehydration.
No worries man. I just learned this recently from a borderline diabetic.
 

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Off topic, my apologies Zoot but this is a funny watch. Dr. Mike is one of the more honest no bullshit health and training influencers as well as an accredited expert.

 
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Zoot Allures

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Daily weight is misleading as many factors tip the scale other than fat loss, but today I weighed in at



212.6 lbs


My goal is, when I started, was 200 lbs but that means getting to 195 because when I start eating carbs I will gain 5 water lbs back

I will consult MD aout my ideal healthy weight
 
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I did a high fat, high protein, and low carb diet and it completely fixed my bloodwork . I was pre-diabetic and had really high triglycerides. After 3 month of I’m in the normal ranges again.

I’ve added rice back to my diet, while excluding refined sugar and other ultra-processed foods and my blood work is still good.

I think the main culprit to health complications is refined sugar like in sweets and ultra processed foods like hot dogs etc
 
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