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I don't know whete some of these rants come from. My two hospitalizations, from being a pedestrian hit by a car and appendix out I had rapid care and everything went fine. Beyond that have various relatives and friends hit with cancer, other organ issues, heart surgery, accidents and all getting reasonbly timely treatment. Anyone who didn't make it was because they were hit with stage 4 diagnosis or the like because they ignored signs and bad lifestyles.
The fact that the average life span of a Canadian is more than an American would be a testament to the Canadian health system. I know many factors are involved but the relative health care systems would still a significant one.
 

NotADcotor

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I guess they will let you die if you are past certain age. Nevertheless. Sorry about your loss. This was really hard to read.
Except they said they would have a guy in past the long weekend, he just couldn't wait that long. He was there 10 days, brought him back from a code blue, cancer treatment almost a year earlier.
So I don't think it was a "fuck it, he is old" type situation, and more of a, rather let a fucker die than call someone in from a long weekend type situation.
 

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Except they said they would have a guy in past the long weekend, he just couldn't wait that long. He was there 10 days, brought him back from a code blue, cancer treatment almost a year earlier.
So I don't think it was a "fuck it, he is old" type situation, and more of a, rather let a fucker die than call someone in from a long weekend type situation.
I mean… That’s even worse?
 

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Wait times for MRIs are very real. Last year I was doing a military press, when I heard a "pop" in my cervical spine. Now I have recurrent pain and I think I might have herniated a disc when I did it. My family doctor recommended an MRI and he gave the prescription in December 2023. But my appointment is in October 2024. This is with UHN. I did not bother to look for outpatient clinics etc. Would probably be faster that way.

However for more serious issues they schedule appointments pretty fast.
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I was patient at PMH for prostate cancer for 6 years. My doctor knew my PSA was doubling every 6 months when i did blood test. She stated that you need biopsy and i told her it is necessary to get MRI and was told wait times at PMH is six months and was told to go Buffalo to get mri which i decline. That is the reason that i went to USA. I had 2 MRI within 2 days. Biopsy the following week and prostate removal within 2 weeks. I started Chemo right away. did pet scan and there was no evidence of cancer but i need to do chemo once a month for the next 6 month. Since I had done all I can in my power , PMH agreed to do chemo as per instruction of MD Anderson.

We do need lots of MRI and PET/CT in Canada.
 
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Does anyone think part of the reason for the strain on health care is the mass immigration policies of the federal government? Knowing a health care worker at a hospital, they have said that there have been patients come directly to the hospital off of the plane !!
 
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Does anyone think part of the reason for the strain on health care is the mass immigration policies of the federal government? Knowing a health care worker at a hospital, they have said that there have been patients come directly to the hospital off of the plane !!
No.

a) There is no mass immigration. It is controlled immigration per numbers set by the federal govt.
b) The immigrants are usually young and therefore unlikely to need medical help unless it is pregnancy and the like and
c) You cannot directly go to the hospital off the plane, because (i) You cannot get OHIP for 90 days after landing and if you are infact going then you will be charged exorbitant amounts. An ER visit for someone without OHIP at UHN is $1200 base fee.(ii) You need to take a medical test before you get a visa and therefore it is extremely unlikely that someone got of the plane and rushed to the hospital, unless there was a genuine health concern that required immediate medical attention.

In short I call your post bullshit fabrication.
 

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No.

a) There is no mass immigration. It is controlled immigration per numbers set by the federal govt.
b) The immigrants are usually young and therefore unlikely to need medical help unless it is pregnancy and the like and
c) You cannot directly go to the hospital off the plane, because (i) You cannot get OHIP for 90 days after landing and if you are infact going then you will be charged exorbitant amounts. An ER visit for someone without OHIP at UHN is $1200 base fee.(ii) You need to take a medical test before you get a visa and therefore it is extremely unlikely that someone got of the plane and rushed to the hospital, unless there was a genuine health concern that required immediate medical attention.

In short I call your post bullshit fabrication.
up to you but I trust my source and allowing 500,000 immigrants a year is not controlled
 
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The fact that the average life span of a Canadian is more than an American would be a testament to the Canadian health system. I know many factors are involved but the relative health care systems would still a significant one.
It is only a statement that if you have a lot of money the US system is far better. But overall most do not have the kind of money needed to get health care as the cost are astronomical. That is why overall the Canadian health system is much better.

By the way, the US is the only developed country in the world without socialized healthcare. All other countries prefer to see their citizen as patients we need to treat as opposed to clients we need money from.
 
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It is only a statement that if you have a lot of money the US system is far better. But overall most do not have the kind of money needed to get health care as the cost are astronomical. That is why overall the Canadian health system is much better.

By the way, the US is the only developed country in the world without socialized healthcare. All other countries prefer to see their citizen as patients we need to treat as opposed to clients we need money from.
The systems are different. Most Americans do have healthcare insurance. Working Americans typically get it from their employers to cover themselves and immediate family with different types of insurance plans. PPO, HMO, CDHP's all have different structures but do give health insurance that most Americans can afford. Public systems like Medicare & Medicaid cover retirees and the poor who qualify. Overall there are benefits and flaws with both systems.

From my personal experience I have received better health care in the US than I did in Canada. I am far from rich. I am firmly in the middle class.
 
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The systems are different. Most Americans do have healthcare insurance. Working Americans typically get it from their employers to cover themselves and immediate family with different types of insurance plans. PPO, HMO, CDHP's all have different structures but do give health insurance that most Americans can afford. Public systems like Medicare & Medicaid cover retirees and the poor who qualify. Overall there are benefits and flaws with both systems.

From my personal experience I have received better health care in the US than I did in Canada. I am far from rich. I am firmly in the middle class.
I have been working with americains since 2002. If you only knew how often i heard of people holding on to a job they hate just because they couldn't afford losing the insurance.
 

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That is good for their economy, who ever thought of tying health insurance to a person's job is an economic genius.
I dont agree. Nothing is more toxic for a company then having pissed off workers who only stays on out of necessity.
 
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I have been working with americains since 2002. If you only knew how often i heard of people holding on to a job they hate just because they couldn't afford losing the insurance.
And I have been living in the US since 1998... If they hate your job... find another one. If they do leave their job they can continue health benefits under COBRA for 6 months. This will allow them to have insurance while they find another job. They can also go to the Federal Health Care Exchange to find discounted and subsidized insurance. If they go on welfare there is Medicare/Medicaid. There are options.
 

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It is only a statement that if you have a lot of money the US system is far better. But overall most do not have the kind of money needed to get health care as the cost are astronomical. That is why overall the Canadian health system is much better.
Most do have coverage of some sort or another, either employer or medicade/care or shudder the VA

They do pay a lot more and it seems they pad the bills a lot more to pay for the lawyers.
 
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