Must watch: Hamas supporters burn Canadian flags on October 7

Klatuu

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Your arguments are beginning to sound like certain others on this board. "Prove it", when they have no actual rebuttal or don't want to accept what is very, very likely a reality. Are you asking for 100% certainty? That would require seeing it with your own eyes. Are you saying that Hamas has never put rocket launchers in and among civilians. The civilians report launchers in rooms beside where their babies sleep. I think this is nothing more than an avoidance tactic to not admit my point is very valid in terms of disproportionality, or lack thereof.

Do you think that my example is not at all plausible
Highly insecure
 

Klatuu

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Pager bombs and IDF strikes on Hezbollah is a telling proof that Israel isn't bombing an area willy nilly...they target specific locations and specific targets....Imagine if Israel just launch 200 rockets on Lebanon the way Iran did...Lebanon would be flattened...
Hallucinations
 

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Imagine if Israel just launch 200 rockets on Lebanon the way Iran did...Lebanon would be flattened...
Maybe we can add that line to John Lennon's song.

Actually, just launching those rockets would be so much easier for Israel.
 

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I think most people secretly don't care what happens to Palestinians or what they have to say so these protests are unbothersome. Kind of like when someone you disrespect says something, you pay no attention to them.
 

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Your arguments are beginning to sound like certain others on this board. "Prove it", when they have no actual rebuttal or don't want to accept what is very, very likely a reality.
I am not debating this issue, so I am not rebutting. Point taken on your position.
While your example is plausible, and it is likely there were many cases where an attack was justified, it is equally likely that there were other attacks that were not justified that did not meet the criteria for proportionality, and would count as war crimes. What was it on balance? That judgement is TBD.
I am mostly bombarded with propaganda, untruths and half truths from both sides in this war.
You are asking me to give a wide berth to the side you have picked to support, but I dont share your trust in Israel to do that. Similarly I dont share the trust that Frankfooter seems to have on pro-Palestinian sources either.
 

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I am not debating this issue, so I am not rebutting. Point taken on your position.
While your example is plausible, and it is likely there were many cases where an attack was justified, it is equally likely that there were other attacks that were not justified that did not meet the criteria for proportionality, and would count as war crimes. What was it on balance? That judgement is TBD.
I am mostly bombarded with propaganda, untruths and half truths from both sides in this war.
You are asking me to give a wide berth to the side you have picked to support, but I dont share your trust in Israel to do that. Similarly I dont share the trust that Frankfooter seems to have on pro-Palestinian sources either.
Have you seen majority of franky's posts? it's a bunch of crap...total deniability that Hamas are hiding on residential areas, hospitals and schools....he also pointed out that Israel are doing the same hence Iran launched rockets on residential areas...the difference is? Israel build bunkers for civilians so casualties are minimal or none...meanwhile Hamas....

And people are still wondering why there are so much deaths in Gaza...people are left to fend for themselves...
 
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shack

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I am not debating this issue, so I am not rebutting. Point taken on your position.
While your example is plausible, and it is likely there were many cases where an attack was justified, it is equally likely that there were other attacks that were not justified that did not meet the criteria for proportionality, and would count as war crimes. What was it on balance? That judgement is TBD.
I am mostly bombarded with propaganda, untruths and half truths from both sides in this war.
You are asking me to give a wide berth to the side you have picked to support, but I dont share your trust in Israel to do that. Similarly I dont share the trust that Frankfooter seems to have on pro-Palestinian sources either.
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If a launching site is not taken out because it's in a hospital let's say 200 lives are saved. How long does that site continue to launch missiles? How many hundreds of missiles get launched. How many civilians get killed? How much damage to property occurs? How many people are displaced? If the launching site is allowed to remain in place for long enough, it is easy to see that the immediate tactical advantage of that launching site could easily be comparable to the damage from taking out that site. There would be no disproportionality.


Which basically means that any comparison is highly subjective. There are no defined units of measure.
If you take out a hospital is terrorism.
Period.

 

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There was a very interesting and respectable debate going on with people understanding others' points of view, even if contradictory, and responding with balanced, civilized statements.

And now Geno comes along with his ridiculous accusations and racist pronouncements. You are using TERB as a platform to spew your hate speech. It is illegal.

You don't belong here. You provide nothing of positive value to this site. All you do is foment discord. Leave.
Trying to ethnically cleanse the board of non-zionist is a Shazi move.

A reminder, Israel is the only party facing charges of genocide and extermination:
318 (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

Definition of genocide
(2) In this section, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction



 
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shack

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If you take out a hospital is terrorism.
Period
If you launch while embedded within your own civilian population:
It's terrorism in it's worst form
It's a war crime most vile
It's committing genocide of your own people, the greatest evil ever
It's what you support.

Period, period, period, period.
 

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...which would also be very subjective such that the verdict could be a highly biased one based the actual judges' own political leanings. There is no guarantee of impartiality when so much subjectivity is inherent in the interpretation of the events. There are no strictly defined or measurable parameters. It could very well be a true kangaroo court.
That's why we reply on impartial reports by Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem, the UN and others along with investigations by trustworthy media.

 

shack

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Trying to ethnically cleanse the board of non-zionist is a Shazi move.
Why do you say that?

I am simply stating facts.

You just finished admitting that you knowingly lied when saying that Israel is killing Palis at a greater rate than the Nazis killed Jews during the Holocaust. And you did that for the sole purpose of demonizing Jews. That is the very, definition and the legal definition of Hate Speech.

And you are using TERB as your platform to spew your hate speech. Those are all facts.
 

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Why do you say that?

I am simply stating facts.

You just finished admitting that you knowingly lied when saying that Israel is killing Palis at a greater rate than the Nazis killed Jews during the Holocaust. And you did that for the sole purpose of demonizing Jews. That is the very, definition and the legal definition of Hate Speech.

And you are using TERB as your platform to spew your hate speech. Those are all facts.
Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession
 
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Frankfooter

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If you launch while embedded within your own civilian population:
It's terrorism in it's worst form
It's a war crime most vile
It's committing genocide of your own people, the greatest evil ever
It's what you support.

Period, period, period, period.
Hamas is stuck in the giant concentration camp of Gaza.
Where do you think they should go to start the resistance?
How about if they took it outside Gaza, like say whatever is outside like on Oct 7?

Terrorism is intentionally targeting civilians, buddy.
That is all Israel has done for a year.
Hamas was only suppose to be 20,000 strong and one year later, 3 Hiroshimas of explosives and Israel just killed women and children?
All that says is killing women and children were Israel's goals.

There is a database of 420 official statements by Israelis declaring their intent to target civilians and commit genocide.

You've do 420 declarations of genocidal intent a month here.
 

Frankfooter

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Why do you say that?

I am simply stating facts.

You just finished admitting that you knowingly lied when saying that Israel is killing Palis at a greater rate than the Nazis killed Jews during the Holocaust. And you did that for the sole purpose of demonizing Jews. That is the very, definition and the legal definition of Hate Speech.

And you are using TERB as your platform to spew your hate speech. Those are all facts.
Every accusation is a confession.

Israel is killing roughly the same number of children as nazis did at the start of the holocaust.
I might be wrong, but doubt it.

 

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I think most people secretly don't care what happens to Palestinians or what they have to say so these protests are unbothersome. Kind of like when someone you disrespect says something, you pay no attention to them.
Palestinians are not wanted in Arab countries either. When Saddam invaded Kuwait the Palestinians living and working in Kuwait cheered him on, but once he lost the Kuwaitis kicked out about 380 thousand. for treason.
 

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If a launching site is not taken out because it's in a hospital let's say 200 lives are saved. How long does that site continue to launch missiles? How many hundreds of missiles get launched. How many civilians get killed? How much damage to property occurs? How many people are displaced? If the launching site is allowed to remain in place for long enough, it is easy to see that the immediate tactical advantage of that launching site could easily be comparable to the damage from taking out that site. There would be no disproportionality.
And if they attach so little value to the lives of their own people, why should anyone else give a shit.
 

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You'll all notice how swiftly Frankfooter brushed this incident aside to continue with his narrative.
The only thing he likes about Canada is the free social assistance he receives.
When it comes to respecting our heritage and flag, he could care less.
Any doubt?
Just read his comments on this thread.
 

shack

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Hamas is stuck in the giant concentration camp of Gaza.
They didn't seem stuck on Oct.7. They clearly demonstrated what they routinely do without restrictions.
Where do you think they should go to start the resistance?
Instead of resistance they should accept Israel's right to exist and negotiate a permanent peace. Everytime they resist they get the shit kicked out of them, more Palis die and they keep losing more land. Pretty fucking stupid idea to keep resisting.
How about if they took it outside Gaza, like say whatever is outside like on Oct 7?
Took what outside of Gaza?
 
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