Muslims Wage Jihad Against Burger King
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toughb said:Britian is a free country and everyone has a right to express their view. So that said why doesn't that jihad loving muslim shove the cone up his ass and go back to where he came from.
End of porblem...............
The problem is that they have already fucked up where they came from and now they want to do it here.
Other Wanderer said:I don't think the English or Americans need any further assistance in fucking up "here" - a few of them are doing an admirable job on their own.
To the dude who doesn't like Burger King - he spouted off and made a comment because he was pissed off. I guess I'll pretend I haven't heard what I've heard during a football match in an English pub by comparison.
I'd say the guy was doing nothing other than imitating the locals, and becoming as British as he could. Why does this rise to the level of even news?
Every day in every school board in North America, somebody is pissed off about something. Some Christians want evolution banned, some of the gay lobby want Christianity banned, let's not even get into whether the Merchant of Venice, Tom Sawyer, can be taught unedited to account for a few folks who are Jewish or African-American/Canadian.
The guy was pissed, others are too, we shrug our shoulders and decide if the thing was truly insulting, deliberately so, accidentally so, or not at all, make a business decision and move on.
What is so fucked up about "here", we are on the top of the crowd developmentally and have a kick ass lifestyle, the envy of the world. The eyeslams don't have that.
The difference between a statement made in n English Pub and something said by one of them is that we can take statements as they come , the world has 1.8 billion of those largely uneducated and violent buggers who seem to love the mob mentality and lack any higher social skills that would allow them to restrain themselves. You are right that we shrug our shoulders and move on, thats what a developed civilized society does. These mindless drones act in concert when their leaders stir them up. That is what the big deal is.
And that's the only definition you could find is it? In all your sancy dictionaries you never came across the more common meaning:lenharper said:Jihad, To fight and kill in the path of Allah, the enemies of Allah, for the cause of Allah. ...
sounds like there is at least the potential for moderate bodily harm there, especially with regard to the fighting and killing part.
You actually read what the guy said:2. A crusade or struggle: "The war against smoking is turning into a jihad against people who smoke" Fortune.
[Arabic jihd, from jahada, to strive; see ghd in Semitic roots.]
And came to the conclusion that when he said "This is my jihad", he meant he was going to "kill in the path of Allah", and not "this is my struggle"?He was not satisfied by the decision to withdraw the cones and has called on Muslims to boycott Burger King. He said: "This is my jihad
So when Bush said he was going on a Crusade, in your mind he actually did mean he was going to start up another "dark ages inquisition" torturing and burning heretics at the stake?
Ah yes, the voice of our superior western "civilization" has spoken.What is so fucked up about "here", we are on the top of the crowd developmentally and have a kick ass lifestyle, the envy of the world. The eyeslams don't have that.
The difference between a statement made in n English Pub and something said by one of them is that we can take statements as they come , the world has 1.8 billion of those largely uneducated and violent buggers who seem to love the mob mentality and lack any higher social skills that would allow them to restrain themselves. You are right that we shrug our shoulders and move on, thats what a developed civilized society does. These mindless drones act in concert when their leaders stir them up. That is what the big deal is.
It's so true; If only those damn Muslims could be half the sophisticated and eloquent racists that our western racists are.
LOL, that is a great post.Neverenuff$ said:I believe Smyth is pointing out that the Jewish community complains as well as the Muslum community .
a Muslums complaint about Ice cream lids , is equal in nuisance value as a building named Hitler, and Holocaust-deniers is to Jewish people
Jews lost 6 -million to Hitler, Muslums have lost untold numbers to Ice cream lids with religous swirls embosed on them.
I've lost respect for BK for bowing down to useless complaints. His concern is right up their with those idiots who complain that records played backward promote satanic causes.
I like how Smyth always posts anti-jewish posts whenever someone posts an article that reports a person who happens to be a Moslem in a bad light.
Why is an Islamic person going to BK in the first place? Does the quoran allow believers of the Islamic faith to eat at a fast food restaurant?
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I like how Smyth always posts anti-jewish posts whenever someone posts an article that reports a person who happens to be a Moslem in a bad light.
Why is an Islamic person going to BK in the first place? Does the quoran allow believers of the Islamic faith to eat at a fast food restaurant?
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woolf said:Yes, all he had to do is look around and see that unlike Muslims and their silly aversion to having their religious symbols co-opted, other religions are perfectly ok with having their sacred symbols co-opted ... there are all kinds of products named "Jesus Christ this" and "Virgin Mary that" ... why right after work I'm dropping into the "Crucifiction Drug Store" to pick up a box of "Star of David Condoms".
LOL, that is a great post.
xdog said:I've lost respect for BK for bowing down to useless complaints. His concern is right up their with those idiots who complain that records played backward promote satanic causes.
I like how Smyth always posts anti-jewish posts whenever someone posts an article that reports a person who happens to be a Moslem in a bad light.
Why is an Islamic person going to BK in the first place? Does the quoran allow believers of the Islamic faith to eat at a fast food restaurant?
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So what do you think of this idea then? I'd like to market my "Star of David Condoms" and "Virgin Mary Spermicide" ... if any of those of the Christian or Jewish faith complain about these products being insulting to their religion I can count on your support right?
I remember rioting when "Jesus Christ Superstar" came out, the play and the movie. Get a grip on reality in the west, people complain as is their right but that's about it. I'll aslo bet that someone has marketed something along the lines you suggest.
Every time a french fry ends up looking sort of like the virgin mary, every religous nut celebrates. I don't see how and ice cream decoration that happens to resemble the word Allah is any different.
Every time a french fry ends up looking sort of like the virgin mary, every religous nut celebrates. I don't see how and ice cream decoration that happens to resemble the word Allah is any different.
Go ahead. People in North America are a little more tolerant to that kind of stuff. A bunch of folks will moan and groan and that'd be it.woolf said:So what do you think of this idea then? I'd like to market my "Star of David Condoms" and "Virgin Mary Spermicide" ... if any of those of the Christian or Jewish faith complain about these products being insulting to their religion I can count on your support right?
Heck, remember the Brooklyn Art Museum in NYC had a portrait of the Virgin Mary smeared with elephant dung and surrounded with pictures of vaginas? Some catholics were upset and tried to get the exhibit removed but their case was rejected under freedom of expression and when that failed, they tried to prevent tax payer dollers to fund the exhibit and that too failed. Other catholics around the world, including the vatican barely noticed or cared. It even got minimal coverage in "Jesusland USA".
Now what if it was mohammad in place of the virgin mary?
I would only have a problem with these products if they had a hidden message that would glow after holding it up to a special light on the eve of sighting Hailey's comet.woolf said:So what do you think of this idea then? I'd like to market my "Star of David Condoms" and "Virgin Mary Spermicide" ... if any of those of the Christian or Jewish faith complain about these products being insulting to their religion I can count on your support right?
I would purchase items like "Mohammad's Southern-style Deep-fried Pig Ears" or "Islamic Head and Shoulders" --the tagline would be" It'll get rid of your dandruff or we'll launch a jihad on those Zionist pigs who switched the formula
so that it won't work on believers of the religion of peace"
How about "Palestinian Time Shares Inc." Come share our land along with those smelly Jews. You'll own this land before we will.
How about "Arab Shack Clock Radios". Guaranteed to ensure you get to the suicide bombing on time. need an extra detonator? Don't worry, it's built right in. We've removed the tuning dial because it would only spew Western-influenced infidel drivel broadcast by those sheckels who control the world's media.
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I agree. Religious fundamentalists of all stripes take their religious symbols pretty seriously ... I would never pretend to tell someone that they don't have a right to worship their french fry, or complain when someone desecrates their grilled cheese sandwich.I remember rioting when "Jesus Christ Superstar" came out, the play and the movie. Get a grip on reality in the west, people complain as is their right but that's about it. I'll aslo bet that someone has marketed something along the lines you suggest.
Every time a french fry ends up looking sort of like the virgin mary, every religous nut celebrates. I don't see how and ice cream decoration that happens to resemble the word Allah is any different.
My problem is when some people get all ugly and abusive because they believe the grilled cheese sandwich sects are trying to subvert their culture of french fry worship.
Don said:Go ahead. People in North America are a little more tolerant to that kind of stuff. A bunch of folks will moan and groan and that'd be it.
Heck, remember the Brooklyn Art Museum in NYC had a portrait of the Virgin Mary smeared with elephant dung and surrounded with pictures of vaginas? Some catholics were upset and tried to get the exhibit removed but their case was rejected under freedom of expression and when that failed, they tried to prevent tax payer dollers to fund the exhibit and that too failed. Other catholics around the world, including the vatican barely noticed or cared. It even got minimal coverage in "Jesusland USA".
Now what if it was mohammad in place of the virgin mary?
But that has already happened as well ... remember the Mohammad terrorist cartoons in the Western Standard (or whatever the name of that thrice bankrupt Alberta conservative rag was at the time.)
As is the case of the art that desecrated the image of the Virgin Mary, people of that faith complained ... freedom of speech won out in the end.
Doesn't mean that people don't have the right to complain, nor does it mean that where the desecration was not intended that the "offender" has to refuse to address the the "offence" just to please the trouble makers who think that if you offend someone you have to ignore their complaints just on principle.
Burger King did the right thing IMO ... as did the Muslim community in working with BK to help BK fix the problem in a way that would bring the best "good will" for them from the Muslim community ... yet some people (the guy with the original complaint for one example, and those posting here who condemn Muslims and Burger King for coming to an agreement for another example,) have to try and make an argument that "hatred and conflict" should have won out.
I think that way of thinking is just plain ignorant, stupid and dangerous.
Oh, and about that "people in North America are a little more tolerant to that kind of stuff": I disagree.
Sure, North America has in place better laws and constitutions that prevent our intolerant people from winning out in the end, but even looking at this forum and the people posting here ... many of them, except for the fact that we have a constitution and laws that we enforce that prevent them from acting, would run all Muslims out of the country in a second .... tolerance is more than hating your fellow man but being such a coward that you don't want to face the consequences of breaking serious laws if you acted on your hatred ... tolerance is accepting and embracing difference for the benefits that can be had in diversity.
I think it's pretty clear that Muslims around the world are very sensitive to any negative characterization, as the Pope found out this week with his rather ill chosen quotes. To be told by your elders that your religion is the greatest of all, and then realize that this has not translated into an equal position of prosperity and power with the developed nations, I'm sure is extremely frustrating.Don said:Go ahead. People in North America are a little more tolerant to that kind of stuff. A bunch of folks will moan and groan and that'd be it.
Heck, remember the Brooklyn Art Museum in NYC had a portrait of the Virgin Mary smeared with elephant dung and surrounded with pictures of vaginas? Some catholics were upset and tried to get the exhibit removed but their case was rejected under freedom of expression and when that failed, they tried to prevent tax payer dollers to fund the exhibit and that too failed. Other catholics around the world, including the vatican barely noticed or cared. It even got minimal coverage in "Jesusland USA".
Now what if it was mohammad in place of the virgin mary?
Definition of Jihad
Woolf is right for once. Jihad does mean “struggle.” However the Islamic struggle means killing infidels and dying in the cause to get your 72 virgins.
This is the definition of Jihad in a footnote in the Noble Qur’an.
Noble Qur’an:2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.”
Qur’an:33:22 “Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle.”
Qur’an:9:122 “It is not proper for the Believers to all go forth together to fight Jihad. A troop from every expedition should remain behind when others go to war.”
In all, the word Jihad is mentioned more than 70 times in the Qur’an in almost every Surrah. In every single case it’s mentioned, it refers to killing and dying in Allah’s cause (holy war). Any Muslim saying anything different is lying or doesn’t know his or her’s own scripture.
Woolf is right for once. Jihad does mean “struggle.” However the Islamic struggle means killing infidels and dying in the cause to get your 72 virgins.
This is the definition of Jihad in a footnote in the Noble Qur’an.
Noble Qur’an:2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.”
Qur’an:33:22 “Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle.”
Qur’an:9:122 “It is not proper for the Believers to all go forth together to fight Jihad. A troop from every expedition should remain behind when others go to war.”
In all, the word Jihad is mentioned more than 70 times in the Qur’an in almost every Surrah. In every single case it’s mentioned, it refers to killing and dying in Allah’s cause (holy war). Any Muslim saying anything different is lying or doesn’t know his or her’s own scripture.
That's why I fear the muslim world overall is much more sensitive and prone to more radical acts of protest than the christian world. I do not think radical religious groups are good for the world and currently I feel there are more of these groups in the muslim world than the christian world and they worry me more.Asterix said:I think it's pretty clear that Muslims around the world are very sensitive to any negative characterization, as the Pope found out this week with his rather ill chosen quotes. To be told by your elders that your religion is the greatest of all, and then realize that this has not translated into an equal position of prosperity and power with the developed nations, I'm sure is extremely frustrating.
right. But the worldwide reaction of muslims was anger that turned violent with the burning of embassies (for Palestinians to burn the norweigen embassy! how short-sighted! One of the world's largest donors to palestinian aid and one of the biggest critics of Isreal!). The worldwide reaction of catholics was much more subdued (I don't even think most of the world was aware that such an exhibit existed). Mainly because most people who call themselves catholic are a lot less fervent in their faith.woolf said:But that has already happened as well ... remember the Mohammad terrorist cartoons in the Western Standard (or whatever the name of that thrice bankrupt Alberta conservative rag was at the time.)
As is the case of the art that desecrated the image of the Virgin Mary, people of that faith complained ... freedom of speech won out in the end.
I think you hit the nail on the head.Asterix said:To be told by your elders that your religion is the greatest of all, and then realize that this has not translated into an equal position of prosperity and power with the developed nations, I'm sure is extremely frustrating.
