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Muslim ANGST continues to fester

Stamina

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It really doesn't matter who's "right" and who's "wrong." We're in a war of civilizations. The only thing to do now is put our heads down and win. We can sort out the right and wrong afterwards.
 

papasmerf

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Stamina said:
It really doesn't matter who's "right" and who's "wrong." We're in a war of civilizations. The only thing to do now is put our heads down and win. We can sort out the right and wrong afterwards.
sotra like kill them all and let God sort them out.
 
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DonQuixote said:
We're eventually going to self-destruct.
Kant predicted that 200 years ago.
We're too emotional and irrational
to survive. We meaning all. This
board supports Kant's conclusion.:cool:
The difference is that Western society will allow you DQ, to "wax armageddon", whilst Islamic society will bully, intimidate and threaten you with armageddon to get their way.
 
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DonQuixote said:
May be a bit of an overstatement, don't you think?
And how are they to inflict this mortal blow? By
burning flags and shouting angry chants?

Irrational fear, eh.
The radical Muslim way DQ: Personalized and selective interpersonal armegeddon(ie suicide bomber, car bomber, plain bomber, unplain bomber, plaid bomber, bomber in a burka, bomber in a kilt, ad nauseum).

Gee, these tactics are way beyond their interpersonal and religious beliefs.:rolleyes:
 

Don

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DonQuixote said:
May be a bit of an overstatement, don't you think?
And how are they to inflict this mortal blow? By
burning flags and shouting angry chants?

Irrational fear, eh.
DQ! Please! They can do more than chant and burn flags! If I was a public figure, I would not have any fears about ridiculing christianity. But I would think twice about islam.

Insulting islam will draw more than angry chants! It can get death threats decreed on you (Rushdie)! It can get you killed (Theo Van Gogh)! There are christian radicals that would do the same thing but they are much less in number and they are also mainly rejected by most mainstream christians.
 

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TOVisitor said:
Good boy, papa. You can use Google.

Religious intolerance by the Catholic Church trying to enfore doctrinal orthodoxy. Several tens of thousands were killed as a result.
Yup. Intolerance. At least the Catholic Church has gotten more tolerant over the years.
 

TOVisitor

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Don said:
Yup. Intolerance. At least the Catholic Church has gotten more tolerant over the years.
Don, at least their thirst for pedophilia and covering it up has increased over the years.
 

Don

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TOVisitor said:
Don, at least their thirst for pedophilia and covering it up has increased over the years.
It was probably always there. There wasn't the media coverage back then that there is now
 

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_zolf/20031020.html

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Frank magazine ran a satirical contest about the deflowering of Mulroney's daughter Caroline. In an interview with Mulroney at 24 Sussex, Hana Gartner asked about Frank. Mulroney jumped up and threatened to take a rifle and shoot its editor. .....

ok it was freedom of expression too so intolerance is not limited to some groups it might happen to our PM :eek:
 

Don

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Topol-M said:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_zolf/20031020.html

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Frank magazine ran a satirical contest about the deflowering of Mulroney's daughter Caroline. In an interview with Mulroney at 24 Sussex, Hana Gartner asked about Frank. Mulroney jumped up and threatened to take a rifle and shoot its editor. .....

ok it was freedom of expression too so intolerance is not limited to some groups it might happen to our PM :eek:
The difference:
a) Most people would wager that Mulroney wouldn't follow through on it
b) His supporters wouldn't take his comment seriously - and if they did, they wouldn't support him
c) if Mulroney did it, we, the Canadian people, would villify him

intolerance is a fact of life. But when it is so strong, so widespread and accepted among a large group of people... that is when it is dangerous.

Hitler was dangerous because many people believed and followed him. If people thought he was a nut then he wouldn't be dangerous.
 

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TOVisitor said:
Good boy, papa. You can use Google.

Religious intolerance by the Catholic Church trying to enfore doctrinal orthodoxy. Several tens of thousands were killed as a result.
By your response you had no idea who said it first.
 

The Mugger

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One possible reason for this over the top response is the political power Islam holds in most of the ME. In the secular west, we can make jokes about religion because religions have no power to do anything about it. In most parts of the ME, this is not true. The residents of the ME can't understand how these jokes can go unpunished because if they'd happened in most of the ME, the jokers would be in deep dark shit. I guess it is natural for us to compare a Pakistani to a Dane without thinking about the differences in their respective religions. What do Pakistani's know about our freedom from the church? Probably very little.
You know I might go along with this if it wasn't for educated clergy and politicians whipping up the crowds to a frenzy. In addition the countries that have no real tolerance for this also have no real independent press.

I still stand by my point that there is simply a lack of tolerance on Islam's view of the rest of the world.

This response is not being driven by the average Muslim, it is being driven by their leadership who actually know better.
 

papasmerf

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The Mugger said:
You know I might go along with this if it wasn't for educated clergy and politicians whipping up the crowds to a frenzy. In addition the countries that have no real tolerance for this also have no real independent press.

I still stand by my point that there is simply a lack of tolerance on Islam's view of the rest of the world.

This response is not being driven by the average Muslim, it is being driven by their leadership who actually know better.
Could be some folks are afraid that religious freedom will strip them of power
 

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Wow, they burn down/blow up embassies cuz they feel thier faith gives them to right to.... in this case over cartoons. Using this same brilliant logic... can't western counties NUKE thier asses... as Muslim Jihadists killed so many innocents in London and Spain.
 

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I'm assuming the originator of this thread also...

I'm assuming the originator of this thread also has one where he mocks the leaked wishes of the American President to bomb (using the US Air Force) the headquarters of the media outlet Al Jazeera for broadcaster material which he found offensive.

I wouldn't want to think you are just another red neck bigot - so perhaps you can tell me when you created that thread and when.

Looking forward to your prompt (and consistent) reply!
 

arclighter

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gryfin said:
I'm assuming the originator of this thread also has one where he mocks the leaked wishes of the American President to bomb (using the US Air Force) the headquarters of the media outlet Al Jazeera for broadcaster material which he found offensive.

I wouldn't want to think you are just another red neck bigot - so perhaps you can tell me when you created that thread and when.

Looking forward to your prompt (and consistent) reply!
This is from one of your very own leftie news sources - Al Reuters News Service:

Bush-Blair memo "does not talk of bombing Jazeera"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060117...Cpg.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5
 
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